why are people underrating hashirama by saying nagato can beat him?

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"100,000 zetsu clones powered by the best shinobi of all times" - kabuto

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That is just hype i dont see any techs that Hashi can use that can counter the rinnegans techs.
 

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You ever think maybe Hashirama's hype was a little overrated. I think Kabuto meant his mokoton was like a fairy tale because it's able to create many things. I don't think his battle strength would ever be in the leauge of a rinnegan user.
 

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You ever think maybe Hashirama's hype was a little overrated. I think Kabuto meant his mokoton was like a fairy tale because it's able to create many things. I don't think his battle strength would ever be in the leauge of a rinnegan user.

kabuto's words>your words :p
 

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I've been saying for awhile that Hashirama is more powerful then Nagato. The dude can instantly heal his wounds and wood clones and he can create a forest within an instant.
 

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I've been saying for awhile that Hashirama is more powerful then Nagato. The dude can instantly heal his wounds and wood clones and he can create a forest within an instant.

exactly, killing hashirama wouldnt be easy considering he's basically immortal like tsunade in battle, plus his chakre reserves should be greater considering his cells are being used so much now.
 

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Incorrect, Nagato would defeat him. Hashirama isn't beating any Rinnegan wielder. Gedo Mazo would abduct his soul.
 

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I wrote in some threads about this 2 or 3 months ago and Nagato would own. If you have better eyes it is not meaning of victory, I know that. But Nagato would beat Hashirama Senju. He can able to counter what hashirama has. You are saying Hashirama is powerhouse, yes i am accepting that too but Nagato's Chakra Reserve is insane level too. You can see easyly when Pein attacked to Konoha. And There is a reliable reason to why he has insane chakrapool too, Uchiha Madara or Tobi still not clear this part, says he gives rinnegan to Nagato due to he is just abled to control this power when this timeline. Using Rinnegan which is not your KG, it consumes so much chakra even when non-uchiha person using regular sharingan is consuming much think about Rinnegan. What we see or hear from Hashirama's powers, Nagato is able to counter them all. But Hashirama couldn't counter Nagato's All powers/ all paths. Firstly how he countered this?
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It's Gedo Mazo soul removal tech, How Hashirama counter it? Try to dodge from this Phantom Dragon entire battle? with dealing all paths? or Banshō Ten'in and Dragon would touch him and it's over.

And it's not meaning of Hashirama is weak. It's because of Rinnegan's OP powers. After all Rinnegan is Sage's eyes.
 

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I wrote in some threads about this 2 or 3 months ago and Nagato would own. If you have better eyes it is not meaning of victory, I know that. But Nagato would beat Hashirama Senju. He can able to counter what hashirama has. You are saying Hashirama is powerhouse, yes i am accepting that too but Nagato's Chakra Reserve is insane level too. You can see easyly when Pein attacked to Konoha. And There is a reliable reason to why he has insane chakrapool too, Uchiha Madara or Tobi still not clear this part, says he gives rinnegan to Nagato due to he is just abled to control this power when this timeline. Using Rinnegan which is not your KG, it consumes so much chakra even when non-uchiha person using regular sharingan is consuming much think about Rinnegan. What we see or hear from Hashirama's powers, Nagato is able to counter them all. But Hashirama couldn't counter Nagato's All powers/ all paths. Firstly how he countered this?
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It's Gedo Mazo soul removal tech, How Hashirama counter it? Try to dodge from this Phantom Dragon entire battle? with dealing all paths? or Banshō Ten'in and Dragon would touch him and it's over.

And it's not meaning of Hashirama is weak. It's because of Rinnegan's OP powers. After all Rinnegan is Sage's eyes.

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Gedo Mazo is the most OP being in this matchup. It's strong enough to take Giant Chouza and Giant Chouji's attacks and knock them over with just a roar. Gedo Mazo soul removal dragon is only being dodged or countered by someone with S/T Ninjutsu or body flicker techniques. Hashirama isn't dodging this while concentration on CT, Asura path, ST etc.

Deva path and Shinra Tensei will counter Hashirama's Mokuton techniques. Hashirama is also going to have his hands full when Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei. Just look at what Nagato did to Konoha, whilst controlling bodies from a remote location. Naruto also remarked that Nagato's moves are stronger when they're in one body. We also know Nagato can use multiple paths at the same time. Throw in his incredible chakra reserves and there's only really one winner, albeit with high diff.
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Nagato takes this.
 
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I wrote in some threads about this 2 or 3 months ago and Nagato would own. If you have better eyes it is not meaning of victory, I know that. But Nagato would beat Hashirama Senju. He can able to counter what hashirama has. You are saying Hashirama is powerhouse, yes i am accepting that too but Nagato's Chakra Reserve is insane level too. You can see easyly when Pein attacked to Konoha. And There is a reliable reason to why he has insane chakrapool too, Uchiha Madara or Tobi still not clear this part, says he gives rinnegan to Nagato due to he is just abled to control this power when this timeline. Using Rinnegan which is not your KG, it consumes so much chakra even when non-uchiha person using regular sharingan is consuming much think about Rinnegan. What we see or hear from Hashirama's powers, Nagato is able to counter them all. But Hashirama couldn't counter Nagato's All powers/ all paths. Firstly how he countered this?
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It's Gedo Mazo soul removal tech, How Hashirama counter it? Try to dodge from this Phantom Dragon entire battle? with dealing all paths? or Banshō Ten'in and Dragon would touch him and it's over.

And it's not meaning of Hashirama is weak. It's because of Rinnegan's OP powers. After all Rinnegan is Sage's eyes.
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If Nagato uses that technique then it will drain most of his chakara and weaken him. Hashirama can just hide within his Mokuton while he let his wood clones fight. Plus if Hashirama created the flower tree world then Nagato would have to stay high in the air away from the pollen.
 
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