[Discussion] Why are men always expected to make the first move??

[Lia]

Why we men are always expected to make the first move?

Because our society is shit.

Just have the mentality that you are what they want and don't give out too much attention and don't be too nice (beware the friendzone)

Thanks for the perfect example.
Why is it a bad thing to care about people you like/love very much and give them all the attention they want? Dafuq, why should it be bad to be "too nice"?
We should be absolutely friendly and nice to anyone. And especially to the people we love lol.

human thinking is pretty dumb sometimes.

 

[Yubel]

9s and 10s ain't shit, behind those looks are some of the most insecure females in the world.
Just have the mentality that you are what they want and don't give out too much attention and don't be too nice (beware the friendzone)

Thanks for the advice, I try to be as normal as I can when talking to girls so I don't give too much attention and I'm detached from the outcome. So I'm thinking if I'm really nervous around them that I shouldn't talk to them yet. However, maybe I should just go for it and look weird the first couple times to desensitize me. It all started with me saying hi to a girl walking by to asking directions and taking it a step further when I felt ready.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

Why we men are always expected to make the first move?Is it about 'gendered scripts' or about fear of rejection or about testing out confidence?
Rather is it wrong for me to expect her to make the first move?
Discuss.

I think it's the social convention maybe it's because men are expected to lead .

well sometimes not chasing works as well, if one is confidence enough on what they say and do probably it makes them attractive so if a girl is really attracted to you then she probably will ask you but if it doesn't go that way then you better at least let her know from your actions and behaviors.......if you really like the girl then you can't take the risk of losing her right ? Lol .

 

[Ripple Hole]

cuz women don't wanna be labeled thots

This ^
Most women I see who chase men for simple enjoyment get labeled
real quick as skanks, sluts, and hoes. For doing the same exact thing
a large amount of guys do.

Even if it's a serious relationship they're looking for they too will have
to face the humiliation of being rejected, chances of running into a man
who isn't looking for anything long-term, and still possibly be labeled
a ****.

 

[Power Bottom]

The same reason women are expected to stay at home and watch the kids.

 

[Adam Driver]

Men lead, women follow

Spoiler

:Sparks:

 

[BanGinji]

Because double standards.

^ this. Feminism is a lie. Women only want the perks of being a dude in society, not the challenging/dangerous parts.

 

[Omega]

If girls want us to keep making first move I expect to get paid higher wages and have most of them cleaning/cooking. xD. Equal rights=equal roles. >_>
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BUT SERIOUSLY.....yeah the mans first move is to trick her into making the first move. LOL, but seriously again.......I pondered this myself. Men are expected to make the first move...deal with rejection like a champ and be on his way then they get mad because they feel men are dogs but I had too much time on my hands one night and debated with myself that the "dog persona" is a result of this gender role. If you approach every girl you honestly care about, the rejection is going to hurt even worse when you do get rejected (no one bats 100), but if you just view them as a piece of meat, a number, or conquest, then if she is like "no" you're like "there are others with a vagina" you don't care about the "bimbo" so you just go on to the next one and overtime you fully mesh with the persona you created and now you're really a dog. I believe it stems as a defensive response to avoid the negative emotions felt with rejection; almost like a preemptive strike. If you don't care you don't hurt. Just a fun theory. Kinda interesting.

 

[Zee Seh]

A question like this from you wasn't really expected,

As for the answer, its cuz girls don't wanna show up to be desperate, Its a clash of egos, who'll surrender for their love first, the boy or the gal. Plus thats how chivalry works

 

[Avani]

Why we men are always expected to make the first move?Is it about 'gendered scripts' or about fear of rejection or about testing out confidence?
Rather is it wrong for me to expect her to make the first move?
Discuss.

Because the women who made the first move often scared away the suitors who expected them to be shy and innocent otherwise they get called all the lowly names. :| Remember those Victorian women who supposedly fainted or swooned all the time and needed the smelling salt...

A more of a western idea but they over powered too many culture with their set of values so...