Who's Water Dragon is stronger?

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Water Wall is only 5 hand seals.

But yea I stand corrected, the anime had him using 3 hand seals, you're right.
According to you, the anime shouldn't be used at all. The manga shows him using but one hand seal.

Furthermore, even his Water Dragon takes a lesser amount of hand seals than Zabuza's, and just from displaying these two jutsu (the only two Tobirama has ever displayed in the manga), ANBU already considered his ninjutsu Kage-level, and after displaying one jutsu, it already qualified as Kage-level in Orochimaru's books:
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"During this technique's first appearance, forty-four hand seals were used to perform it; the highest amount of hand seals necessary to use a technique shown in the series so far. However, later appearances of the technique have implied that the exact number of seals required isn't fixed."

"The ideal place to use it is near a body of water, but if the user's skill allows it, it is possible to use it even in a place where there is none."
 
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According to you, the anime shouldn't be used at all. The manga shows him using but one hand seal.

Furthermore, even his Water Dragon takes a lesser amount of hand seals than Zabuza's, and just from displaying these two jutsu (the only two Tobirama has ever displayed in the manga), ANBU already considered his ninjutsu Kage-level, and after displaying one jutsu, it already qualified as Kage-level in Orochimaru's books:
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"During this technique's first appearance, forty-four hand seals were used to perform it; the highest amount of hand seals necessary to use a technique shown in the series so far. However, later appearances of the technique have implied that the exact number of seals required isn't fixed."

"The ideal place to use it is near a body of water, but if the user's skill allows it, it is possible to use it even in a place where there is none."
I didn't say the anime should be used, I was saying I saw 3 hand signs from the anime and didnt read the manga for that fight and so I stand corrected.

Also, can you stop babbling on??? You're giving me all of this extra information that others and I dont give a ****
 

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I didn't say the anime should be used, I was saying I saw 3 hand signs from the anime and didnt read the manga for that fight and so I stand corrected.

Also, can you stop babbling on??? You're giving me all of this extra information that others and I dont give a ****
Well, when your argument is "Zabuza's water dragon is stronger than Mei's because it was bigger" when ignoring the fact that Zabuza was on a large water source whereas Mei had no nearby water source, I might as well do so.
 

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We don't know if Mei could do a bigger water dragon or not, that may not even be a factor of strength. Take the power of a small wave, to that of a water jet, the wave would not knock you down, while the water jet can cut steel. Even though the wave is much much llarger, it is not nearly as destructive as the water jet.

Water pressure is likely an important factor in water dragon jutsus strength.
 
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We don't know if Mei could do a bigger water dragon or not, that may not even be a factor of strength. Take the power of a small wave, to that of a water jet, the wave would not knock you down, while the water jet can cut steel. Even though the wave is much much llarger, it is not nearly as destructive as the water jet.

Water pressure is likely an important factor in water dragon jutsus strength.
Could be vice versa
 

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Once again, Zabuza's feats are simply incomparable to Mei's because he was on a large water source (a lake) when using his Water Dragon whereas Mei had no water source nearby her when she used her Water Dragon.
 
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Didn't Zabuza have a water source to use Water dRagon? Mei's would be stronger.
Once again, Zabuza's feats are simply incomparable to Mei's because he was on a large water source (a lake) when using his Water Dragon whereas Mei had no water source nearby her when she used her Water Dragon.
Exactly. Given preexisting water, her technique would be far larger/stronger.
 

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Well Suiton does beat Katon....

Anyways it could be the result of using every hand sign.....the more you put in, the stronger the technique right?!

Question is if Mei used all the hand signs (as they are all rather absent in part II) is it stronger than Zabuza's?!

Though I would personally believe they should be equal. A Jutsu os a Jutsu....one can Maybee maintain it for longer though...




Not necessarily. Sasukes katon was more powerful than Itachi's. .
 

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Zabuza's was bigger....Zabuza's Water Dragon>Mei's Water Dragon. I don't think just because she has a title Kage, it gives her an automatic win, I mean she also has Boil and Lava Release that give her the Kage title, so it shouldnt be weird Zabuza has better Suiton



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Giant Vortex Jutsu, stronger than any Suiton Mei can throw out.
Where is your proof that Zabuza has better suiton. ? Stop being an irrational fan boy.
 

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Exactly. Given preexisting water, her technique would be far larger/stronger.
How do we know Mei didn't create a lot of water to use her biggest dragon she can perform? Now you're just assuming.

Hey look, even the OP abandoned this thread :p


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Um, dude, Im watching Friends.....just because I dont reply back in 5 minutes doesnt mean I'm not going to reply. Maybe if you werent on here for majority of your time, shown by you nearly having 3000 posts in 2 months, youd be more patient. Because here, I got 5 rep bars with about 1450 posts when you nearly have doubled that amount and only have 6 bars......and you think I'm ignorant....this should tell you something that I know what I'm talking about

Where is your proof that Zabuza has better suiton. ? Stop being an irrational fan boy.
Proof is that picture you replied to hahaha
 
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