Who's better im Ninjutsu? Naruto or Sasuke?

[To Whatever]

Since when?

An opinion substantiated by evidence. Taming lightning + the many displays of change in shape manipulation surpass 1 display of nature and shape manipulation. FRS and Kirin are both S Rank Jutsu.

Since Naruto had to tame Kurama, befriend the bijuu and master sage mode. It's a gift the same way Rinnegan is.


Most opinions are substantiated by "evidence". The same way my opinion is that they're both on par with one another. You're passing your opinion off as a fact.

We could both stick our heads in the dirt and disagree or we could actually admit that their skill in ninjutsu aren't night and day as you're implying.

 

[KidGamer65]

Since Naruto had to tame Kurama, befriend the bijuu and master sage mode. It's a gift the same way Rinnegan is.


Most opinions are substantiated by "evidence". The same way my opinion is that they're both on par with one another. You're passing your opinion off as a fact.

We could both stick our heads in the dirt and disagree or we could actually admit that their skill in ninjutsu aren't night and day as you're implying.

Uh, no. Befriending someone and mastering an actual technique are not the same thing. Not even close. One requires training. The other does not.

Yes, and your opinion is based on literally nothing. So we could go on and on but at the end of the day my argument has a million times more weight than yours. Which is why instead of explaining why they are on par you are telling me that you'll believe what you want regardless.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Depends, which one was on top during their time together?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Sasuke when it comes to the number to ninjutsu techniques known.
Naruto for the quality.

 

[davidou]

The fact that Naruto combined bijuus natures to his rasenshuriken counts as a feat of ninjutsu mastery that surpasses Sasuke' s.

 

[To Whatever]

Uh, no. Befriending someone and mastering an actual technique are not the same thing. Not even close. One requires training. The other does not.

Yes, and your opinion is based on literally nothing. So we could go on and on but at the end of the day my argument has a million times more weight than yours. Which is why instead of explaining why they are on par you are telling me that you'll believe what you want regardless.

He had to defeat kurama, befriend him, and master foreign chakra (white/black) on top of incorporating his forms into his Senjutsu.

That allowed him to utilize RSM and Kurama Mode.


I see you decided to put your head in the dirt. We're on disagreements then. They're on par with each other in ninjutsu. Especially given the broad usage of the word.

 

[KidGamer65]

He had to defeat kurama, befriend him, and master foreign chakra (white/black) on top of incorporating his forms into his Senjutsu.

That allowed him to utilize RSM and Kurama Mode.


I see you decided to put your head in the dirt. We're on disagreements then. They're on par with each other in ninjutsu. Especially given the broad usage of the word.

He had to defeat Kurama to get KCM. To obtain Bijuu Mode he only needed to befriend Kurama. He didn't think he could which is why he went the KCM route in the first place. So no, hard work is not needed to obtain the full power of a Bijuu. Same goes with the mastery of white/black chakra. The only thing Naruto had trouble with was balancing the chakra and that's because he couldn't enter BM, which is also because he wasn't friends with Kurama.

:lol @ the bold. None of this except for the first part is anywhere close to work.

Yup. Sasuke who has invented numerous Ninjutsu including one that can tame lightning is as good as the guy who invented FRS and made his Rasengan bigger. :lol Makes a lot of sense.

 

[To Whatever]

He had to defeat Kurama to get KCM. To obtain Bijuu Mode he only needed to befriend Kurama. He didn't think he could which is why he went the KCM route in the first place. So no, hard work is not needed to obtain the full power of a Bijuu. Same goes with the mastery of white/black chakra. The only thing Naruto had trouble with was balancing the chakra and that's because he couldn't enter BM, which is also because he wasn't friends with Kurama.

:lol @ the bold. None of this except for the first part is anywhere close to work.

Yup. Sasuke who has invented numerous Ninjutsu including one that can tame lightning is as good as the guy who invented FRS and made his Rasengan bigger. :lol Makes a lot of sense.

How is befriending the embodiment of hatred not hard? Could Sasuke do it?

He had to use chakra control in kcm/BM and balance foreign chakra.

Most of those numerous jutsu are variants and simple shape manipulation just like Naruto.

They're on par with each other. A majority of Sasuke's/Naruto's arsenal are not massively different in power.

Especially if we bring up TSB.

 

[KidGamer65]

How is befriending the embodiment of hatred not hard? Could Sasuke do it?

He had to use chakra control in kcm/BM and balance foreign chakra.

Most of those numerous jutsu are variants and simple shape manipulation just like Naruto.

They're on par with each other. A majority of Sasuke's/Naruto's arsenal are not massively different in power.

Especially if we bring up TSB.

It's not hard in the sense of actual labor and training. :lol Please stop trying to compare Naruto becoming besties with a Bijuu to actual training. The bold were abilities he had complete control of once becoming a perfect jin. I don't care if he had to do it because we aren't talking about whether or not he did it. We are talking about whether or not it is something he learned to do.

Yes, numerous. Naruto has one. The rest of his impressive feats are feats granted to him by modes, not because he is good at Ninjutsu.

Power doesn't dictate how good someone is at learning and creating Ninjutsu.

 

[Honord Sage]

I think you need to re-read the manga especially the last fight.

As for rasenshuriken Enton and Ama are far above it they turn the object to nothingness.

No you better Tsunade said its the ultimate killing tech sines it starts a the microscopic level, and the the fact the Manga name is Naruto not Sasuke who works for Naruto. Yes Sasuke is second Banana to Naruto just as Robin is second to Batman.

 

[To Whatever]

It's not hard in the sense of actual labor and training. :lol Please stop trying to compare Naruto becoming besties with a Bijuu to actual training. The bold were abilities he had complete control of once becoming a perfect jin. I don't care if he had to do it because we aren't talking about whether or not he did it. We are talking about whether or not it is something he learned to do.

Yes, numerous. Naruto has one. The rest of his impressive feats are feats granted to him by modes, not because he is good at Ninjutsu.

Power doesn't dictate how good someone is at learning and creating Ninjutsu.

It's not hard to befriend the embodiment of hatred? Lol. It's labor and training to do what Naruto did. Anything less and Kurama wouldn't have converted.

He didn't gain complete control of when he became a perfect Jin. The fruit of his labors ended up paying off.

Naruto has one?


Nah. If you wanna stick your head in the dirt I'm not going to bother replying.



You obviously think they're a vast difference in their ninjutsu when there isn't.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

So this turned into an actual debate? One created jutsus and mastered using them on his own power, has known to be abnormally good at ninjutsu since childhood, the other created and mastered one ninjutsu, and created godly elemental jutsus with rsm, which by def Gives you an understanding of all things chakra... it’s a mode, sasuke is the more naturally talented one at ninjutsu, I don’t even understand how this is arguable

 

[KidGamer65]

It's not hard to befriend the embodiment of hatred? Lol. It's labor and training to do what Naruto did. Anything less and Kurama wouldn't have converted.

He didn't gain complete control of when he became a perfect Jin. The fruit of his labors ended up paying off.

Naruto has one?


Nah. If you wanna stick your head in the dirt I'm not going to bother replying.



You obviously think they're a vast difference in their ninjutsu when there isn't.

You're really trying to push this nonsense point huh? :lol Naruto gave a speech to Kurama and then did what he always does, fights for his friends and then Kurama was moved. Period. That's what Naruto did leading up to becoming Kurama's friend. That's not hard work.

Wrong. Don't start making things up out of nowhere. Naruto never once had any issues with any type of chakra control after becoming the Jin.

Yes. FRS is one technique. Bigger FRS and Bigger Rasengan do not count as different techniques as they are the same fundamentally. Sasuke has:

-Chidori Eiso.
-Chidori Senbon.
-Chidori Nagashi.
-Kirin, ability to control natural lightning.

And he has learned and mastered several other Ninjutsu.

Bold is irrelevant. No one is discussing who has better Ninjutsu. :lol

Sasuke is more talented at Ninjutsu than Naruto. Fact. That's why you have to cling to feats that Naruto accomplished because of him being a Jinchuuriki and nothing more instead of posting feats where Naruto used his natural talent to create or learn Ninjutsu. Stop making excuses or stop replying. Either one is fine by me.

 

[Jay SixPaths13]

Sasuke is clearly better than Naruto when it comes to Ninjutsu feats .

 

[Rock Slayer]

I have no idea. Both are pretty equal. But Sasuke has way more creativity than Naruto like Kirin. Naruto just has LITERAL constant variations of rasengans.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I'll take quality over quantity. And Naruto's ninjutsu quality is superior to Sasuke's.

 

[To Whatever]

You're really trying to push this nonsense point huh? :lol Naruto gave a speech to Kurama and then did what he always does, fights for his friends and then Kurama was moved. Period. That's what Naruto did leading up to becoming Kurama's friend. That's not hard work.

Wrong. Don't start making things up out of nowhere. Naruto never once had any issues with any type of chakra control after becoming the Jin.

Yes. FRS is one technique. Bigger FRS and Bigger Rasengan do not count as different techniques as they are the same fundamentally. Sasuke has:

-Chidori Eiso.
-Chidori Senbon.
-Chidori Nagashi.
-Kirin, ability to control natural lightning.

And he has learned and mastered several other Ninjutsu.

Bold is irrelevant. No one is discussing who has better Ninjutsu. :lol

Sasuke is more talented at Ninjutsu than Naruto. Fact. That's why you have to cling to feats that Naruto accomplished because of him being a Jinchuuriki and nothing more instead of posting feats where Naruto used his natural talent to create or learn Ninjutsu. Stop making excuses or stop replying. Either one is fine by me.

The point of this thread is who is better in ninjutsu not who is more talented.

They're on par.

Keep acting as if simple shape manipulation is a different jutsu then act as if Rasengan variations of different properties are the same.

 

[KidGamer65]

The point of this thread is who is better in ninjutsu not who is more talented.

They're on par.

Keep acting as if simple shape manipulation is a different jutsu then act as if Rasengan variations of different properties are the same.

Yes. Who is better IN Ninjutsu. Not who possesses the better Ninjutsu. Thus your points are irrelevant.

They are not on par.

-Keep acting like abilities granted by being a Jin translate to being good at Ninjutsu.
-Keep acting like Giant Rasengan and Rasengan are different jutsu. The only Rasengan Naruto himself has invented is FRS. The rest was either only possible due to the Bijuu or they are just bigger or smaller variants of the same jutsu.
-Keep on feeding me these weak replies.

 

[To Whatever]

Yes. Who is better IN Ninjutsu. Not who possesses the better Ninjutsu. Thus your points are irrelevant.

They are not on par.

-Keep acting like abilities granted by being a Jin translate to being good at Ninjutsu.
-Keep acting like Giant Rasengan and Rasengan are different jutsu. The only Rasengan Naruto himself has invented is FRS. The rest was either only possible due to the Bijuu or they are just bigger or smaller variants of the same jutsu.
-Keep on feeding me these weak replies.

-Possessing the better Ninjutsu means you're better in it.
-They do translate at being better in Ninjutsu.
-He has Universal comprehension of all chakra. That alone makes him better.

Keep moving goal posts.

 

[KidGamer65]

-Possessing the better Ninjutsu means you're better in it.
-They do translate at being better in Ninjutsu.
-He has Universal comprehension of all chakra. That alone makes him better.

Keep moving goal posts.

-Nope. In Naruto's case he was granted the Ninjutsu that makes him superior by an outside force that has nothing to do with his own merits. So no, Naruto himself is not better in Ninjutsu.

-No, they don't no matter how many times you say it.

-In a mode granted to him for reasons outside of how good he is when it comes to learning and creating Ninjutsu. :lol


The goal posts have been the same from the first post. You're the one trying to change them based on your misconception on what the topic is asking. "Ninjutsu skill" has been considered to be the very same thing I'm telling you it is from Chapter 1 to Chapter 700 yet you keep on making excuses you can push the narrative of Sasuke and Naruto being equals in every single possible way. Next you'll be talking about how Sasuke and Naruto take equally sized shits. :lol Just stop it already.