Who's a better Shinobi? Naruto vs Sasuke

[freaks99]

sasuke smarter than naruto .... good joke

 

[freaks99]

about jounin,genius and kages : jounin and genius kakashi know one element. jounin temari know one element. jounin and genius neji don t know any element. kage gaara know one element. kage tobirama know one element.

 

[shelke]

Okay, this has seriously got me laughing, facepalming and greeting my Teeth. Guys, this is a Manga. Not a discussion whether or not women should abort, for God's sake. Now, I love writing, so if you all really consider yourselves loyal readers of the Manga, try me: Let's see if you learn a thing or two:

1. Who's a better Shinobi? That depends on what does KISHIMOTO (and not our sorry asses) believe a Shinobi represents. If it's only skills, stealth, agility and successful control of personality, then Sasuke would be better. If it's about all that plus being loyal to a village, a code, and protecting something important and striving to mainain peace, then Naruto is the better one. May I remind you that the Sage of Six Paths is the Father of all Ninjutsu and Shinobi culture, and HE strived for Peace. Unlike Sasuke. In fact, when choosing the one who would succeed him, he chose the Younger Son, whose ideals were love and mutual understanding, rather than just power. Judging by those standards, Naruto OWNS Sasuke as a Shinobi. FACT.

2. Naruto has no strategy and relies on Kurama: This annoyed me. This is no longer giving your opinion... This is thinking you're mother****ing FIVE STARS Shinobi yourself. What fools. If we are going to detail how people rely on things, then Sasuke relies on Sharingan (as every other Uchiha, Danzou and Kakashi), Yamato on his Mokuton, Tsunade, Sakura and Shizune on their good chakra control and medical skills, Sai on his drawing speed and skills, and we could keep going.

As for strategy... By all means, my dear Masters of Dexterity and Mischief, what do thee believe strategy is, then? Just because Sasuke is cool, indifferent and overconfident (not to say arrogant) doesn't mean his strategies are better. If he really was THAT good, then how come he got his ASS KICKED by the Raikage, hmm? And not to mention the other Kages, of course. Naruto ALSO displayed a good use of craftiness whilst fighting against Sandaime Raikage. And you'll tell me: yeah, but he had help from Hachibi. Well, not so much. He had to figure it out by himself mostly. BOTH Naruto and Sasuke have a nice sense of strategy, and they use it as it fits THEIR STYLE. Sasuke likes to be the Boss mother****er, the God, the Oh-So-Untouchable fighter. Naruto simply likes a good battle, because he respects powerful oponents. Naruto may be a bit clumsy, so what, at least he's grown. Sasuke has only powered up. Up until now, he's still relying on others to give him answers. He hasn't grown one bit, and even after his brother shows him his ideals, he still pursues revenge as if it was the most important thing in the world. Hummmm... Thinking nothing is more important than you and your wishes? Not so smart for a strategy, but hey! Spare me. Didn't know that Sasuke was this series' main character. Oh wait. He's not.

3. Sasuke has mastered two elements. Naruto hasn't. OH MY GOD. SO POWERFUL. SO UNIQUE. SO ORIGINAL.......... But then again, Kakashi has done the same, as had Asuma, and Yamato, and Hiruzen... We can go on and on. Mastering two elements isn't a sign of being a genius. It's something to be EXPECTED if you aim for being a Jounin, at least, regularly. Not to mention, tons of ninjas have yet to reveal their two Element affinities, such as Guy and Kurenai, and Anko. And they are still Jounin. I bet Guy could kick Sasuke's ass good, and he isn't the type of mastering any elements, is he? Naruto has mastered one, and it was enough to bring about one of the most powerful and deadly techniques of the series: Fuuton, Rasen Shuriken. By the way, having a shitload of techniques for an element isn't proof of mastering it. What proves your Mastery over that element is being able to TRANSMITE that element to anything. To create anything from that element. And if you're looking for a Genius, look at Mei Terumi, Onooki and Muu. Three Element users, not to mention Mei uses TWO Kekkei Genkai, whereas Sasuke only has ONE, and Naruto has none. So, mastering two elements doesn't make Sasuke any greater than Naruto. It makes him tough, but not the toughest of the two.


4. Naruto (or Sasuke) Spams his Rasengans and Kage Bunshin (or Susan'oo and Amaterasu): Well, shit. I wonder what would YOU do on a fight, besides doing what you do best? Now, in terms of NUMBER of techniques, Naruto OWNS Sasuke. He has more Rasengan versions and Kuchiyose Varieties than Sasuke has with his Chidori. Katon wise, Sasuke knows about 4 techniques. Raiton wise, uhhhh... Chidori and Kirin. And did I mention Chidori? Okay, let's be fair. Chidori with three versions. Nagashi, normal and Senbon. So, another 4 techniques for Raiton. Naruto has a shit load of Rasengan versions, two versions of Rasen Shuriken, and Kage Bunshin... Not to mention we are still expecting him to inherit his father's Hiraishin No Jutsu... At which point, sorry, who's Sasuke? So more than spaming, it's like being CREATIVE with what you HAVE. Sasuke has what he has, Naruto has what he has. Again, Kishimoto's standards are law.

5. Sasuke has better knowledge about what it means to be a Shinobi than Naruto. LOL NOPE! Go back to chapter 593, and you'll witness Sasuke asking himself the meaning of many things that most Shinobi ALREADY KNOW. I'm not saying Naruto knows, but he IS closer to know than Sasuke's ever been, at least by Kishimoto's standards. Frankly, if you can't take orders from a figure of authority and obeying them as is, then being a Shinobi isn't much of your concern. That makes BOTH of them not so good Shinobi. Particularly Sasuke, since he's so like not-taking-orders-from-you-piece-of-shit kind of guy.

6. Naruto for Naruto Fanboys and Sasuke for Sasuke Fanboys. I agree with this opinion. Fanboys are idiots in most cases, except some of them who simply have a favorite and root for him or her. Most fanboys however seem to think some character is gonna come out of the Manga and marry them for their loyalty, LOL, such fools! Listen, here, noobs. A Manga is only a Manga. If you want Naruto's or Sasuke's ****, go write fanfiction. You're better off that way. You fools are the reason people think Otakus are people imprisoned at their own rooms, jerking off to some sick Hentai shit and claiming they know Japanese because they say dattebayo as Naruto or Hmph as Sasuke. Seriously, ****. YOU.

A true fan of the Manga, sticks with what its mother****ing AUTHOR says of it. Kishimoto says they're both equals, Naruto for Light and Sasuke for Darkness, then THAT'S IT. Stop trying to make others suck your favorite character's ****.


No I am in no way a Naruto Fanboy. I stick with him because his is the name of the story, I have learned more with him that with douche bag Sasuke, and I can relate to someone who everybody criticizes and underestimates, but that eventually shuts them all the **** up with sheer determination and ability. THAT's a hero. A Manga hero. Naruto was created to have that effect on people, and Sasuke was created to make people learn how badly can our circumstances and our ignorance affect us. Sasuke is cool, and shit. But he's a douche. FACT.

No offense but your logic on Manga story is based on your own opinions. Don't act like some authoritative figure in manga interpretation. Fact is, when a writer or an artist put out his work, it's no longer his. It becomes a part of readers own interpretations. So to venture that a readers input is void on such issues is pretty funny and childish on your part.

 

[MLX]

Naruto obviously.

Sasuke is kinda not going the same way as the shinobi's rules and stuff (i guess?)

 

[shelke]

Karin was a tool,Sasuke used it,Isn't that the same thing as throwing a shurikan and leaving it on the floor?
And how does sticking with your friends make you a better shinobii? Anbu black ops who is imo the most realistic ninja's in Naruto
Will easily abandon there friends for the sake of the mission.Sasuke completed his mission like a ninja.

Good point. I would like to add more to this. I just love this forum's lopsided shenanigans. Kakashi killed Rin, completely throwing away his friend's dying wish regardless of Rin's spy status, but he is such a moralist. Sasuke made no such promises, and killed Rin because it was in the interest of his group. If left alive, she would have been nothing but a liability for their hide-out and his plans for vengeance. Both Ninjas did the same thing, but the skewed opinions are disgusting.

If I was at Sasuke's place, I would've done the exact same thing. She would've resulted in his own death. There was no better option then to put her out of her misery and leave. I can't believe anyone actually thinks that Naruto's rainbows and bunny talk is what makes a shinobi. Only a mentally ill fella would fight for the same people who humiliated him, played fatal pranks on him, and disregarded his whole existence. Only a mental degenerate, NOT a normal individual.

 

[shelke]

sasuke always help from itachi ( eyes, genjutsu skills,amaterasu, sword and yata mirror ). from orochimaru ( cursed seal, summoning snake and more based speed). from his teammate ( Skroll, help in battle intel) and tobi always save his ass

I hope to god you are trolling, or just being insanely lame. This is got to be the most ridiculous non-sense I have read in a while. Seriously.

 

[freaks99]

revenge, revenge only stupid revenge. desire to kill his beloved brother. belief in a lie about clan and itachi... sasuke real mental degenerate

 

[freaks99]

I hope to god you are trolling, or just being insanely lame. This is got to be the most ridiculous non-sense I have read in a while. Seriously.

it s pure truth

 

[Fecal Matter]

Good point. I would like to add more to this. I just love this forum's lopsided shenanigans. Kakashi killed Rin, completely throwing away his friend's dying wish regardless of Rin's spy status, but he is such a moralist. Sasuke made no such promises, and killed Rin because it was in the interest of his group. If left alive, she would have been nothing but a liability for their hide-out and his plans for vengeance. Both Ninjas did the same thing, but the skewed opinions are disgusting.

If I was at Sasuke's place, I would've done the exact same thing. She would've resulted in his own death. There was no better option then to put her out of her misery and leave. I can't believe anyone actually thinks that Naruto's rainbows and bunny talk is what makes a shinobi. Only a mentally ill fella would fight for the same people who humiliated him, played fatal pranks on him, and disregarded his whole existence. Only a mental degenerate, NOT a normal individual.

Thanks for agreeing.

 

[saw2097]

Sasuke is completely dominated by his desire for revenge, Naruto let his desire for revenge go making him the better person in general. His actions saved the villiage.

Sasuke is just a criminal, no different then a common serial killer.

 

[BigBlade Master]

Sasuke is better, even if he is a missing-in but he saves a lot people life by beating Kabuto.

 

[Jman1997]

what ? kurama just part of naruto s abilities like toad summoning e.t.c

You're making yourself look stupid, lol just stop.

 

[the dark king]

sasuke is a better shinobi,naruto is a better human being.

this. remember sasuke was given the title genius even oro said "Not a drop of blood on him...They called me a genius, but compared to him..." thats after sasuke taking out a thousand ninja. naruto is only stronger because of the plot i mean he had too many advantages against pain and sasuke was able to supress kyuubi's chakra in early shippuden even kyuubi said sasuke's eyes where similar to madara's.

sasuke has tons of natural talen and if he was taught by toad sages he'd become a monster as well infact sasuke was only trained by kakashi and oro while naruto as trained by kakashi, jiraya, ma and pa and bee

put naruto in base in sasuke's position at the kage summit would he have been able to do anyhing significant against A? i doubt it, infact im almost scared at thought of the inevitable power up sasue's gonna get. he's always been ahead of naruto this is the first time since the rasengan thing that naruto has been stronger than sasuke

skill its sasuke but power its naruto. naruto has many variations of the SAME jutsu and it took him forever to learn nature transformation while sasuke did his first at 7 and his second at age 13 imagine what kinda monster is waiting for us at age 16. sasuke is an uchiha prodigy while naruto is a kid with too much chakra, lots of bushins to help him out, a demon and an admirable dream. but naruto will never be called a genius till the day he dies even if he becomes juubi's jinchuriki he still wont be a genius shinbi.

i think shinobi are apreciated more based on skill than power because based on power part 1 guy was stronger than part 1 kakashi but kkashi was the better shinobi so i think of it like oro and jiraya, jiraya has massively powerful jutsu but will never be given the title genius like oro

so dont get it twisted sasuke is the better shinobi