Who would be the weakest Uchiha with the same powerups?

[Rikudou Tobi]

Madara the weakest??? naah dude, IMO its sasuke, when he had MS, he was weaker than MS itachi, and shisui should be around MS itachi's level or better cuz he was depicted to be faster and has stronger genjutsu, sasuke seemed to be the weakest, and sasuke having MS moves means nothing cuz they all have rinnegan, so his saving grace would be ameno, obito is the least talented but he will make up for it with kamui hax, so IMO
1. madara - the strongest (has the strongest chakra)
2- obito - less talented but the haxxest (intangibility is a b!tch)
3. Itachi - the smartest
4. Shisui - possible the fastest (speed MS shisui > MS itachi > MS sasuke) with the same buff it would be the same IMO
5. and then sasuke lol

the positions are interchangeable but sasuke is the weakest of the bunch,

Okay let's just break it down step by step first. How about we just exclude Susanoo from this instance since I'm already arguing with somebody how level of susanoo works. Agreed?

Just Mangekyo sharingan abilities alone Shisui has KA, Itachi has tsukyomi/Amtersu, Obito/Tobi has Kamui, and Sasuke has flame control/Ametrsu. But what does Madara have? Nothing, just Susanoo and without it he'd get killed by these four in a fight within seconds. Genjutsu levels are generally around the same level but Shisui and Itachi were said to be absoluetly superior.
I also think itachi is stronger than ms sasuke in some aspects but sasuke's abilities were designed to counter Itachi's (i can explain if you want me to)
Skill wise Madara has a chance here but neither of these Uchihas are dull in skill at all. (Excluding susanoo)

1. Madara
-He has mediocre skills with swords, he fought 20 shinobi's with kinjutsu-sharingan genjutsu, fire style level that stalemated 10 waterstyle users. He is superior with the gunbai being his weapon of choice but after death he developed skills of yin yang rlease and six path techniques in addition to his already known uchiha techniques (return of the uchihas, uchiha flame formation, izanagi etc).
Also killed many adult senjus in his days while rivaling madara all his life.

2. Obito
-He's sword decent nothing special however his shuriken kinjutsu is the best in the series and he beat kakashi with it in a few occasions, firestyle equal to that of edo madara's tied for 1st place of the biggest firestyle alone with madara, skilled in gunbai beating Gai and kcm naruto in hand to hand combat while maneuvering in the air with it. After madara he learned yin yang release, six path techniques, and uchiha techniques (uchiha flame formation, return of the uchiha, izanagi etc.) as well.
He also had mokuton skilled enough to kill 60 anbu mist, beat the 4th mizukage, and the strongest leaf anbus without kamui.

3. Skilled in all weapons, fastest best shuriken jutsu in the series along with kunai proficiency. Better than Madrara and Obito. His firestyle amatersu is the highest level of firestyle period. He knows Uchiha some techniques as well and is able to preform some like izanami. He was an anbu and bested kakashi, killerbee, and kcm naruto in hand to hand combat as well. He used battle intelligence more than anyone else in the series which made him very resourceful on when to waste his jutsu and when not to. Water style jutsus rivaled that of kakashi's (argued to be better) and being superior to dsm kabuto.

4. Sasuke we all know was skilled in sword kinjutsu better than all the other uchihas, raikiri levels on par with kakashi (argued to be better), took out a whole army of shinobis with just his sword (didn't need genjutsu like madara), shuriken jutsu nearly reached Itachi's level has knoweldge in uhchiha techniques and took on all 5 gokages by himself being able to kill one of them while taking the raikage's arm along with it. I'll also add that he was still injuried in his fight with deidara has well.

5. Shisui referre to Itachi

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I think Madara gets to much credit for being the strongest Uchiha with EMS. Madara was in his prime and Sasuke had EMS for two days while being a teen before gaining more power..

There's really no evidence to prove EMS Madara is stronger than EMS Adult Sasuke(without added powers ups).

On topic. Obito would be the weakest. He's in a class full of prodigies and Genius..

No way Obito is the weakest. Itachi, Sasuke and Madara need EMS at the very least to beat normal DMS Obito now they have the same powers. Not saying Obito is the strongest but there's no way he's at the bottom, he's above Itachi and Shisui (since we don't seem to care about KA here lol) at the very least. I'm not taking Rinnegan into consideration for any of them because then we'd have to give the other non Indra reincarnates a unique ability (like ameno/limbo). I think Adult Sasuke would be the stronger than Madara here based on Oro/Tobirama's words.
EDIT: Obito is def. the strongest here. changed my mind

 

[Megax Rocker7]

No way Obito is the weakest. Itachi, Sasuke and Madara need EMS at the very least to beat normal DMS Obito now they have the same powers. Not saying Obito is the strongest but there's no way he's at the bottom, he's above Itachi and Shisui (since we don't seem to care about KA here lol) at the very least. I'm not taking Rinnegan into consideration for any of them because then we'd have to give the other non Indra reincarnates a unique ability (like ameno/limbo). I think Adult Sasuke would be the stronger than Madara here based on Oro/Tobirama's words.

Don't forget that Obito's MS was never used without hashiroids by Obito himself which should boost it's regular capabilities by a lot considering what hashiroids did to KA so it's plausible to say an EMS version of Kamui wouldn't be that much different from what Obito with MS Kamui and hashiroids did.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Don't forget that Obito's MS was never used without hashiroids by Obito himself which should boost it's regular capabilities by a lot considering what hashiroids did to KA so it's plausible to say an EMS version of Kamui wouldn't be that much different from what Obito with MS Kamui and hashiroids did.

But hashiroids should of only made kamui spammable. Like how it made KA more usable. Everything else should've stayed the same. KA didn't seem to benefit from it other than the reduced cooldown. Are you implying hashiroids does something else?

 

[Megax Rocker7]

But hashiroids should of only made kamui spammable. Like how it made KA more usable. Everything else should've stayed the same. KA didn't seem to benefit from it other than the reduced cooldown. Are you implying hashiroids does something else?

All I'm saying is that hashiroids made it spamable like an EMS does, and also made it last for over a decade without going blind.

 

[Uchihakil]

Okay let's just break it down step by step first. How about we just exclude Susanoo from this instance since I'm already arguing with somebody how level of susanoo works. Agreed?

Just Mangekyo sharingan abilities alone Shisui has KA, Itachi has tsukyomi/Amtersu, Obito/Tobi has Kamui, and Sasuke has flame control/Ametrsu. But what does Madara have? Nothing, just Susanoo and without it he'd get killed by these four in a fight within seconds. Genjutsu levels are generally around the same level but Shisui and Itachi were said to be absoluetly superior.
I also think itachi is stronger than ms sasuke in some aspects but sasuke's abilities were designed to counter Itachi's (i can explain if you want me to)
Skill wise Madara has a chance here but neither of these Uchihas are dull in skill at all. (Excluding susanoo)

1. Madara
-He has mediocre skills with swords, he fought 20 shinobi's with kinjutsu-sharingan genjutsu, fire style level that stalemated 10 waterstyle users. He is superior with the gunbai being his weapon of choice but after death he developed skills of yin yang rlease and six path techniques in addition to his already known uchiha techniques (return of the uchihas, uchiha flame formation, izanagi etc).
Also killed many adult senjus in his days while rivaling madara all his life.

2. Obito
-He's sword decent nothing special however his shuriken kinjutsu is the best in the series and he beat kakashi with it in a few occasions, firestyle equal to that of edo madara's tied for 1st place of the biggest firestyle alone with madara, skilled in gunbai beating Gai and kcm naruto in hand to hand combat while maneuvering in the air with it. After madara he learned yin yang release, six path techniques, and uchiha techniques (uchiha flame formation, return of the uchiha, izanagi etc.) as well.
He also had mokuton skilled enough to kill 60 anbu mist, beat the 4th mizukage, and the strongest leaf anbus without kamui.

3. Skilled in all weapons, fastest best shuriken jutsu in the series along with kunai proficiency. Better than Madrara and Obito. His firestyle amatersu is the highest level of firestyle period. He knows Uchiha some techniques as well and is able to preform some like izanami. He was an anbu and bested kakashi, killerbee, and kcm naruto in hand to hand combat as well. He used battle intelligence more than anyone else in the series which made him very resourceful on when to waste his jutsu and when not to. Water style jutsus rivaled that of kakashi's (argued to be better) and being superior to dsm kabuto.

4. Sasuke we all know was skilled in sword kinjutsu better than all the other uchihas, raikiri levels on par with kakashi (argued to be better), took out a whole army of shinobis with just his sword (didn't need genjutsu like madara), shuriken jutsu nearly reached Itachi's level has knoweldge in uhchiha techniques and took on all 5 gokages by himself being able to kill one of them while taking the raikage's arm along with it. I'll also add that he was still injuried in his fight with deidara has well.

5. Shisui referre to Itachi

Number 4 you think madara needed to use genjutsu?? naah man, madara was just mixing stuff up, he did'nt need it and what sasuke defeated were not even jounins, but whatever not that he cant accomplish that in a higher state, amaterasu is pretty much negged by any of these guys thanks to preta, and madara having mediocrevskills with swords is also your opinion, dude was using the katana at a younger age than sasuke started, his kenjutsu is at the least on sasuke's level, and his gunbai gives him more advantage and madara has Limbo which is OP in its own

 

[Oblivionx]

Since when did Madara use perfect Susanoo without rikudou chakra? And don't tell me you still think magic garb and Ps are the same?

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And Madara's susanoo is not bigger than Sasuke's nor is it more powerful than Sasuke's, stop blabbing out crap like that and save it for the sub section that believes in that kind of stuff.


Oh so it was naruto's susanoo not weakened Obito and broke the sword of nunoboko? Interesting
And cut that pre rikudou buff theory out, madara never used perfect susanoo until edo tensei and even he had rikudou chakra then.
All you have is the magic garb instance where it fought hashirama and sasuke's took down jj obito.
And mindless juubito>>>>>>>>>>> Sm hashirama at his finest.


We do, it's called edo madara and his got negged by the god tree in half a panel. And before you say something stupid like rinnegan madara not having rikudou chakra, you need to take into account that transmigrants need rikudou chakra to awaken the rinnegan in the first place.

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So your failed theory ends here.

Everything else here just just desperate rambling. I can quote all the times you said Obito didn't have skills or ninjutsu as well as pull of pages of Sasuke's susanoo being superior in every way.
I don't want to here that pre rikudou buff fanfic either, it doesn't exist.

okay lol if you think non jin madara with rinnegan has the same boost as sage blessed sasuke then there's nothing to add here. Because madara just got rinnegan, sasuke got black chidori, huge buff in speed strength everything. Blind Madara dealt with EMS sasuke no problem, and jin madara was having trouble with sasuke even without ameno. Still you think it's the same thing for both.
PS. hashirama confirmed madara was gaining his former power meaning blind madara wasn't physically much stronger than EMS madara but whatever floats your boat.

 

[King Of Pop]

Shisui. bar KA, he is practically featless. if people put sasuke below him due to KA then you might as well put him above madara and itachi since ka would one shot them as well. he has nothing to bring to the table other than that, we dont even have any idea how his base skills are.

 

[Michael]

Sakura Uchiha :elmo:

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Shisui. bar KA, he is practically featless. if people put sasuke below him due to KA then you might as well put him above madara and itachi since ka would one shot them as well. he has nothing to bring to the table other than that, we dont even have any idea how his base skills are.

have you seen kana no kyoukai? (my sig and avi)...it's made by ufotable that did fate/stay night...and set in the same verse

 

[sayian]

Ironically it'd be sasuke if you remove shisui.
- itachi better non uchiha techs
- madara better cqc
- obito better dojutsu

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It's still Shisui. He was too specific a ninja, these power-ups would make him drop his moveset like how Sasuke dropped the lightning style and the wire.

 

[Uchihakil]

Shisui. bar KA, he is practically featless. if people put sasuke below him due to KA then you might as well put him above madara and itachi since ka would one shot them as well. he has nothing to bring to the table other than that, we dont even have any idea how his base skills are.

Well dude was still fast as f@ck, (should be faster than MS itachi who was faster than early EMS sasuke) and he wields the strongest genjutsu, wields a katana. His MS broke out of edo tensei control when even rinnegan could'nt (and that was one of the eyes, we know both eyes are stronger when together) imagine such genjutsu buffed by rikudou chakra. I honestly dont know how the others fight it cuz the technique is broken af, even if they did have a way, only obito's MS abilities are useful to him, cuz
- madara does'nt have an MS tech
- sasuke's ama is useless cuz preta
- itachi's tsuki is broken due to sharingan + rinnegan + uchiha blood

only obito's MS is useful