Who would be stronger?

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RSM Naruto with Rinnegan
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Rinnegan Sasuke with RSM/JJ
 

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RSM Naruto


JJ Sasuke is liable to turn into a female.
 
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RSM Naruto


JJ Sasuke is liable to turn into a female.

Lmao ^^^^^

Depends how natural abilities come to them. We've seen Uchiha get Senju powers and Senju/Uzumaki get Uchiha powers. Naruto has seen more rinnegan action/seals/techs than anyone so him? :p

Naruto's raw reaction speed etc would be buffed to beyond God levels. He could see moves coming a year away. :bdpf:
 
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Hebi Sasuke with Rinnegan/ems
 

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Naruto has no experience with Dojutsu, so Sasuke who has experience with Senjutsu would be prominently stronger. Not to mention Sasuke is a Genius so he has the upper hand when it comes to understanding new abilities and powers.
 

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Naruto has no experience with Dojutsu, so Sasuke who has experience with Senjutsu would be prominently stronger. Not to mention Sasuke is a Genius so he has the upper hand when it comes to understanding new abilities and powers.

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Naruto because Sasuke has the strength and speed to match RSM Naruto.. So Naruto would have a lot more to gain.
 

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Naruto has no experience with Dojutsu, so Sasuke who has experience with Senjutsu would be prominently stronger. Not to mention Sasuke is a Genius so he has the upper hand when it comes to understanding new abilities and powers.

Doujutsu don't require much skill to learn, obito mastered kamui upon activation.

It took sasuke some time to master the abilities he gained from the rinnegan. In fact it has been consistently shown that when ever they acquire new abilities they master them at roughly the same time.

Sasuke is suppose to be smarter, but surprisingly the above is true when it comes to mastering new abilities
 

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They would be equal, do you guys not get it yet?
 

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Neither. And that's the whole point to the series.
 

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Give RSM to Rinnegan Sasuke, Naruto would still be stronger than him
 

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Doujutsu don't require much skill to learn, obito mastered kamui upon activation.

It took sasuke some time to master the abilities he gained from the rinnegan. In fact it has been consistently shown that when ever they acquire new abilities they master them at roughly the same time.

Sasuke is suppose to be smarter, but surprisingly the above is true when it comes to mastering new abilities
Yeah but we haven't seen anyone bar Nagato have a Dojutsu they weren't experienced with, in the sense of them not being experienced with eye powers at all.

Naruto literally has no experience what's so ever with using any form of eye power in the Manga. Therefore it would probably take him a while to get used to his abilities, and the overall feeling of having the ability. Meanwhile not even a single day with the Rinnegan, while it yes took some time for him to use (mind us that no one taught him), he was capable of using 3 out of the 6 paths and surpassing Hagoromo with CC. Sasuke's body has been getting used to Senjutsu ever since Orochimaru affected him with the Curse Seal, so it's no doubt that if he was also given RSM, there would be a huge problem for Naruto.

If Sasuke was given RSM he would be unstoppable (along with the Rinnegan), while Naruto would be more or less somewhere in the middle because he wouldn't have the same mastery as Sasuke with the Dojutsu itself. Sasuke will always be superior to Naruto when it comes down to the technicality of how techniques are used, while Naruto is just superior with manpower. It's a full circle basically.
 

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Yeah but we haven't seen anyone bar Nagato have a Dojutsu they weren't experienced with, in the sense of them not being experienced with eye powers at all.

Toneri was using tenseigan well enough, the guy never had eyes prior to that.

Naruto literally has no experience what's so ever with using any form of eye power in the Manga. Therefore it would probably take him a while to get used to his abilities, and the overall feeling of having the ability. Meanwhile not even a single day with the Rinnegan, while it yes took some time for him to use (mind us that no one taught him), he was capable of using 3 out of the 6 paths and surpassing Hagoromo with CC. Sasuke's body has been getting used to Senjutsu ever since Orochimaru affected him with the Curse Seal, so it's no doubt that if he was also given RSM, there would be a huge problem for Naruto.

The same could be said for obito, he awakened his sharingan and was already skilled in its use, mind you obito was no prodigy, he was considered average at best. And after awakening MS he could use the dojutsu to its full capacity(that's even more impressive than sasuke's feat). CM and SM are two different things, CM users have no ability to absorb and manipulate natural energy unlike sages. What they do is manipulate pre existing or pre created senjutsu chakra that they are fed by the seal. Sasuke has no experience when it comes to absorbing, manipulating and balancing natural energy with his own chakra. Saying sasuke can quickly grasp RSM is like saying kisame could near instantly be a perfect jinchuriki because he can absorb bijuu chakra and use it. Sasuke never surpassed hogoromo in CC, to my knowledge there isn't a scan that shows that.

If Sasuke was given RSM he would be unstoppable (along with the Rinnegan), while Naruto would be more or less somewhere in the middle because he wouldn't have the same mastery as Sasuke with the Dojutsu itself. Sasuke will always be superior to Naruto when it comes down to the technicality of how techniques are used, while Naruto is just superior with manpower. It's a full circle basically.

Indeed if he was given RSM he would be difficult to handle, but the same can be said for naruto. As I said it has been consistently shown that they master their new powers at comparable rates.
 
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Toneri was using tenseigan well enough, the guy never had eyes prior to that.



The same could be said for obito, he awakened his sharingan and was already skilled in its use, mind you obito was no prodigy, he was considered average at best. And after awakening MS he could use the dojutsu to its full capacity(that's even more impressive than sasuke's feat). CM and SM are two different things, CM users have no ability to absorb and manipulate natural energy unlike sages. What they do is manipulate pre existing or pre created senjutsu chakra that they are fed by the seal. Sasuke has no experience when it comes to absorbing, manipulating and balancing natural energy with his own chakra. Saying sasuke can quickly grasp RSM is like saying kisame could near instantly be a perfect jinchuriki because he can absorb bijuu chakra and use it. Sasuke never surpassed hogoromo in CC, to my knowledge there isn't a scan that shows that.



Indeed if he was given RSM he would be difficult to handle, but the same can be said for naruto. As I said it has been consistently shown that they master their new powers at comparable rates.

Rinnegan isn't easy to master. Sasuke said himself that it takes time to get used to it.

That's all I have to say on the matter.
 

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Rinnegan isn't easy to master. Sasuke said himself that it takes time to get used to it.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

Why would it be more difficult to master than any other dojutsu? Considering he said the same thing about MS I guess mastery of dojutsu is dependent on the user not the dojutsu itself. Obito mastered 3T and MS simultaneously and instantly. Same goes for the rinnegan.

SM isn't easy to master either.
 

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Why would it be more difficult to master than any other dojutsu? Considering he said the same thing about MS I guess mastery of dojutsu is dependent on the user not the dojutsu itself. Obito mastered 3T and MS simultaneously and instantly. Same goes for the rinnegan.

SM isn't easy to master either.

I never said it was. I was just saying that mastering Rinnegan isn't as easy as you say it is. I'd say that some abilities are easier than others, considering Madara, Sasuke, and Obito were all able to use some right off the bat.

3T doesn't require you to activate anything. Everything it does happens on its own. Genjutsu would be the only thing that would require activation.

Anyway, yes, i'd agree that it depends on the user.
 

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JJ lets you control IT.

But at the same time JJ releases Kaguya...
 

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Toneri was using tenseigan well enough, the guy never had eyes prior to that.
Yeah but at the same time it showed his inexperience. He lost to Naruto with a single fist. Clearly Toneri was no immediate push over, he was capable of being a small threat despite being blind and having no special powers outside of his puppets and chakra sealing ball.

When things got serious, Naruto countered every single hit and defeated him almost too easily. That Naruto wasn't even using his Full Power either.

The same could be said for obito, he awakened his sharingan and was already skilled in its use, mind you obito was no prodigy, he was considered average at best. And after awakening MS he could use the dojutsu to its full capacity(that's even more impressive than sasuke's feat). CM and SM are two different things, CM users have no ability to absorb and manipulate natural energy unlike sages. What they do is manipulate pre existing or pre created senjutsu chakra that they are fed by the seal. Sasuke has no experience when it comes to absorbing, manipulating and balancing natural energy with his own chakra. Saying sasuke can quickly grasp RSM is like saying kisame could near instantly be a perfect jinchuriki because he can absorb bijuu chakra and use it. Sasuke never surpassed hogoromo in CC, to my knowledge there isn't a scan that shows that.
He wasn't really skilled with using his Dojutsu. When he activated it, he was capable of seeing the enemy shinobi (who thought he was invisible) and he striked him dead. Obito was keeping up with Kakashi, but it had more to do with the fact that the Sharingan grants precognition, therefore he can see strikes before they happen almost.

It doesn't have much to do with Sasuke having full control of RSM, but it's the fact that Sasuke has experience with Senjutsu itself. You can say that Sasuke doesn't know how to 'absorb, gather, and manipulate Natural Energy' but at the same time Sasuke didn't know how to use his Rinnegan Paths, and a second later he was using CT without cores :lol

VIZ said his CC was equal to Hagoromo, or surpassed. I can't remember which one.


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ndeed if he was given RSM he would be difficult to handle, but the same can be said for naruto. As I said it has been consistently shown that they master their new powers at comparable rates.
I think Sasuke has the edge still.
 
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