[Debate] who will win in a end love or hatred????..

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If someone killed your family, you wouldn't love them, you would be fuled by hatred and love would never defeat that.
What if the family was trying to kill you? You just might be too thankful to hate the person who saved you.

Avani is a she?


I reached it cus, people who rule successfully usually don't do that with their hearts in mind.
It's like Machiavelli said.
The ruler with too much hate in mind usually do not last either. This kind of argument makes no sense.

"Facts aside,
If I hate trans people it's pretty easy for me to suggest they are mentally ill and unnatural.People will think those are facts regardless if they are not.



In fact all political oppnents can be discreditet with facts and logic, such as climate activitsts, lefties, socialists, feminists, liberals whatever.


I can discredit them as insane and emotional and people will believe me.


Lets say Hitler was around now, in our time, he would be smart about his politics he wouldn't discredit himself by saying things that would make him seem stupid.


If someone was angry with him and wanted to kill or hurt him, then we could understand that given we know about Hitlers history but so far that history has not been made so any attempts of assassinating him would be insane and only emotional.

Hitler accused his enemies of being globalist, selfish Marxists, in a time where racial biology was considered proper science.


Usually PC culture is not considered to be anything but emotinoal nonsense.

So really its very easy to get away with hatred and evil as long as you know how to play your cards."

Also society is not about showing people love.
Everything above it should have been just one paragraph. You could use bullet points. This constant doube spacing single sentence is distracting.

Society is not about people showing hate either. Hate may drive a few people to go further but people driven by love and determination to make things better have cut through mountains just with a hammer and chisel and left more positive and lasting impact. There would be no society if everyone is busy hating each other and afraid to go to sleep, lest someone slit their throat while the are defenseless.

You think love rules the world?
I think love for survival and to live comfortably rules the world. And most people love to survive and love to live comfortably.

When you are a kid and being raised and taught nobody does that with kindness, kinndess would be to give kids everything they want which would result in them being stupid and spoiled.
Spoiling a kid is not kindness. It's mostly result of laziness or lack of sense or time on part of the parents and sometimes family politics with some selfish adult trying to win over an ignorant child without caring for the results.

Schools have rules and they don't give you good grades out of kindness.
The same rules mean they wouldn't be giving you bad grades out of hatred either. How is it even relevant here?

When you are a teenager you can't win at life for being kind or innocent and when you are an adult you can't get anything out of peoples love and affection without being called a parasite to society.
Being hateful on all accounts will only alienate you and makes people think of you as ungrateful selfish jealous person. If people do not deem you to be worth of any love, affection or kindness then they wouldn't want to be with you either.

You see, lack of hate maybe boring. But overload of hate is downright stressful and no one likes constant strain and to surrounded by paranoia.

If homeless people sneaks into public buildings because they don't want to freeze to death at night they get taken by the security because sneaking into public buildings is illegal.
Yes, because it's trespassing and illegal. Because those security people love the income they get from their job and would like to keep it. And building owners love their property to pay people to secure it from potential damages.

If poor people gets money from taxes to live luxuriously they get discredited as criminals who steal instead of working hard.
Live luxuriously on other people's money who have to work hard enough to pay those taxes? That's bound to increase resentment in the long run because it's seen as lazy person's hatred towards work. If everyone loved doing that, who will work and from where you would collect taxes from? Lockdown of a month or two hasn't told you how it affects everyone? Most people seem to love to work. Even if they hated work/jobs they had, they still did it for the love of the paycheck that footed their bills. Love for the pay mostly trumps the hate for the job.

If people are too stupid to work hard there is no place for them either.
Yes, because hating on work to that extent leads to lack of paycheck that they would have loved to encash much more.

If you want good things in life you need to be smart, you can't live with love you need to live with reality.
You have to come to terms with reality and try to compromise enough to be kind to yourself and the reality. Hating on it 24/7 will give you nothing but stress and will reduce quality of your life and probably it's span.

I could give away all the money I have to homeless people out of love and end up just like them in return.
Giving away all the money out of love, works only if you are willing to live like someone who doesn't have anything. Usually love for oneself and survival instinct kicks in before that level of disregard for self, unless you hate yourself and seeking to punish the person you are. In case of later, you need to ask some questions to yourself and sort it out.

I could spend all the time I have trying to help people out of feelings of guilt but instead lose my career because of it.
Why would one have this feeling of guilt? Where does it come from? For, it sounds like some kind of personal dilemma and self hatred on that person's part. If you lose your career for something like that, it's not love which is doing it to you. It's lack of it, that's leading you there.

Lets say you are too stupid to drive a car, nobody is gonna show you love and give you a license anyway.
Because they love their lives as well as other people's and do not want you to jeopardize that. If they hated themselves and everyone else, they wouldn't care about licenses. The system wouldn't even be there.

And if they did the police wont show you love when you cause a trafick accident.
Yea, because in this case, you just damaged something someone else loved and if they let you get away with it, a lot more people may end up losing things or people they love. Love and concern for many > love for a single you.

and nobody will drive you around because you want or need to drive around.
That's not entirely true. No one can or will always drive you around and many will never do so. But I have helped people a few times and have had people help me out even without asking and drive me to places or doing things for me voluntarily without any expectation of reward at the end. Even cab drivers have given me unexpected free rides. You see, we live in a society. If no one loved the life and didn't need a connection, the situations which you mentioned, wouldn't even exist. People wouldn't work to make a society or to maintain it.

Most of what you said are anecdotal statements and not pertinent as a logical argument to begin with. Weird spacing is not a substitute of a good argument either.
 

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What if the family was trying to kill you? You just might be too thankful to hate the person who saved you.



The ruler with too much hate in mind usually do not last either. This kind of argument makes no sense.



Everything above it should have been just one paragraph. You could use bullet points. This constant doube spacing single sentence is distracting.



Society is about people showing hate either. There would be no society if everyone is busy hating each other and afraid to go to sleep. lest someone slit their throat while the are defenseless.



I think love for survival and to live comfortably rules the world. And most people love to survive and love to live comfortably.



Spoiling a kid is not kindness. It's mostly result of laziness or lack of sense or time on part of the parents and sometimes family politics with some selfish adult trying to win over an ignorant child without caring for the results.



The same rules mean they wouldn't be giving you bad grades out of hatred either. How is it even relevant here?



Being hateful on all accounts will only alienate you and makes people think of you as ungrateful selfish jealous person. If people do not deem you to be worth of any love, affection or kindness then they wouldn't want to be with you either.

You see lack of hate maybe boring. But overload of hate is downright stressful and no one likes constant strain and surrounded by paranoia.



Yes because it's trespassing and illegal. Because those security people love the income they get from their job and would like to keep it. And building owners love their property to pay people to secure it from potential damages.



Live luxuriously on other people's money who have to work hard enough to pay those taxes? That's bound to increase resentment in the long run because it's seen as lazy person's hatred towards work. If everyone loved doing that, who will work and from where you would collect taxes from? Lockdown of a month or two hasn't told you how it affects everyone? Most people seem to love to work. Even if they hated work/jobs they had, they still did it for the love of the paycheck that foots their bills. Love for the pay mostly trumps the hate for the job.



Yes because hating on work to that extent leads to lack of paycheck that they would have loved to encash.



You have to come to terms with reality and try to compromise enough to be kind to yourself and the reality. Hating on it 24/7 will give you nothing but stress and will reduce quality of your life and probably it's span.



Giving away all the money out of love works only if you are willing to live like someone who doesn't have anything. Usually love for oneself and survival instinct kicks in before that level of disregard for self. Unless you hate yourself and seeking to punish the person you are.


Why do you have this feeling of guilt? That sounds some kind of personal dilemma and self hatred. If you lose your career for something like that, it's not love which is doing it to you. It's lack of it leading you there.



Because the love their lives as well as other people and do not want you to jeopardize that. If they hated themselves and everyone else, they wouldn't care about licenses.



Yea because you just damaged something someone else loved and if they let you get away with it a lot more people will end up losing thngs or people they love. Love for many > love for a single you.



That's not even entirely true. No one will always drive you around and many will never do so. But I have helped people a few times and have had people help me out even without asking and drove me to me places or doing things for me voluntarily without any reward at the end. Even cab drivers have given me unexpected free rides. You see we live in a society. If no one loved the life and society, they wouldn't work to maintain it and didn't need a connection the situations which you mentioned wouldn't even exist.

Most of what you said are anecdotal statements and not pertinent as a logical argument to begin with. Weird spacing is not a substitute of a good argument either.
daz ur heart bear hatred toward few pipole????..
 

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What if the family was trying to kill you? You just might be too thankful to hate the person who saved you.



The ruler with too much hate in mind usually do not last either. This kind of argument makes no sense.



Everything above it should have been just one paragraph. You could use bullet points. This constant doube spacing single sentence is distracting.

Society is not about people showing hate either. Hate may drive a few people to go further but people driven by love and determination to make things better have cut through mountains just with a hammer and chisel and left more positive and lasting impact. There would be no society if everyone is busy hating each other and afraid to go to sleep, lest someone slit their throat while the are defenseless.



I think love for survival and to live comfortably rules the world. And most people love to survive and love to live comfortably.



Spoiling a kid is not kindness. It's mostly result of laziness or lack of sense or time on part of the parents and sometimes family politics with some selfish adult trying to win over an ignorant child without caring for the results.



The same rules mean they wouldn't be giving you bad grades out of hatred either. How is it even relevant here?



Being hateful on all accounts will only alienate you and makes people think of you as ungrateful selfish jealous person. If people do not deem you to be worth of any love, affection or kindness then they wouldn't want to be with you either.

You see lack of hate maybe boring. But overload of hate is downright stressful and no one likes constant strain and surrounded by paranoia.



Yes because it's trespassing and illegal. Because those security people love the income they get from their job and would like to keep it. And building owners love their property to pay people to secure it from potential damages.



Live luxuriously on other people's money who have to work hard enough to pay those taxes? That's bound to increase resentment in the long run because it's seen as lazy person's hatred towards work. If everyone loved doing that, who will work and from where you would collect taxes from? Lockdown of a month or two hasn't told you how it affects everyone? Most people seem to love to work. Even if they hated work/jobs they had, they still did it for the love of the paycheck that footed their bills. Love for the pay mostly trumps the hate for the job.



Yes because hating on work to that extent leads to lack of paycheck that they would have loved to encash much more.



You have to come to terms with reality and try to compromise enough to be kind to yourself and the reality. Hating on it 24/7 will give you nothing but stress and will reduce quality of your life and probably it's span.



Giving away all the money out of love, works only if you are willing to live like someone who doesn't have anything. Usually love for oneself and survival instinct kicks in before that level of disregard for self, unless you hate yourself and seeking to punish the person you are. In case of later, you need to ask some questions too yourself and sort it out.



Why would one have this feeling of guilt? Where does it come from? For it sounds like some kind of personal dilemma and self hatred on that person's part. If you lose your career for something like that, it's not love which is doing it to you. It's lack of it, that's leading you there.



Because they love their lives as well as other people and do not want you to jeopardize that. If they hated themselves and everyone else, they wouldn't care about licenses. The system wouldn't even be there.



Yea because in this case, you just damaged something someone else loved and if they let you get away with it a lot more people may end up losing things or people they love. Love and concern for many > love for a single you.



That's not entirely true. No one can or will always drive you around and many will never do so. But I have helped people a few times and have had people help me out even without asking and drove me to me places or doing things for me voluntarily without any expectation of reward at the end. Even cab drivers have given me unexpected free rides. You see, we live in a society. If no one loved the life and society, they wouldn't work to maintain it and didn't need a connection the situations which you mentioned, wouldn't even exist.

Most of what you said are anecdotal statements and not pertinent as a logical argument to begin with. Weird spacing is not a substitute of a good argument either.
You win.
 
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[email protected] im so glad to not have u as tobidara clan member...
I don't care.
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I don't care.
Ok now I'm suspicious why do you like that?
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Love is insanity.
Hatred makes sense.
So hatred wins.
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You don't love out of practical reasons, you love because you love.
But you hate because of logical reasons.
And logic wins over emotions.
 
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