[Debate] who will win in a end love or hatred????..

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How exactly did you reach that specific conclusion to declare hatred was backed up by facts and logic as if it was a universal truth?
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I reached it cus, people who rule successfully usually don't do that with their hearts in mind.
It's like Machiavelli said.

Facts aside,
If I hate trans people it's pretty easy for me to suggest they are mentally ill and unnatural.

People will think those are facts regardless if they are not.

In fact all political oppnents can be discreditet with facts and logic, such as climate activitsts, lefties, socialists, feminists, liberals whatever.


I can discredit them as insane and emotional and people will believe me.


Lets say Hitler was around now, in our time, he would be smart about his politics he wouldn't discredit himself by saying things that would make him seem stupid.


If someone was angry with him and wanted to kill or hurt him, then we could understand that given we know about Hitlers history but so far that history has not been made so any attempts of assassinating him would be insane and only emotional.

Hitler accused his enemies of being globalist, selfish Marxists, in a time where racial biology was considered proper science.


Usually PC culture is not considered to be anything but emotinoal nonsense.

So really its very easy to get away with hatred and evil as long as you know how to play your cards.



Also society is not about showing people love.


You think love rules the world?


When you are a kid and being raised and taught nobody does that with kindness, kinndess would be to give kids everything they want which would result in them being stupid and spoiled.

Schools have rules and they don't give you good grades out of kindness.

When you are a teenager you can't win at life for being kind or innocent and when you are an adult you can't get anything out of peoples love and affection without being called a parasite to society.


If homeless people sneaks into public buildings because they don't want to freeze to death at night they get taken by the security because sneaking into public buildings is illegal.

If poor people gets money from taxes to live luxuriously they get discredited as criminals who steal instead of working hard.

If people are too stupid to work hard there is no place for them either.

If you want good things in life you need to be smart, you can't live with love you need to live with reality.



I could give away all the money I have to homeless people out of love and end up just like them in return.

I could spend all the time I have trying to help people out of feelings of guilt but instead lose my career because of it.

Lets say you are too stupid to drive a car, nobody is gonna show you love and give you a license anyway.

And if they did the police wont show you love when you cause a trafick accident.

and nobody will drive you around because you want or need to drive around.
 
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I reached it cus, people who rule successfully usually don't do that with their hearts in mind.
It's like Machiavelli said.

Facts aside,
If I hate trans people it's pretty easy for me to suggest they are mentally ill and unnatural.

People will think those are facts regardless if they are not.

In fact all political oppnents can be discreditet with facts and logic, such as climate activitsts, lefties, socialists, feminists, liberals whatever.


I can discredit them as insane and emotional and people will believe me.


Lets say Hitler was around now, in our time, he would be smart about his politics he wouldn't discredit himself by saying things that would make him seem stupid.


If someone was angry with him and wanted to kill or hurt him, then we could understand that given we know about Hitlers history but so far that history has not been made so any attempts of assassinating him would be insane and only emotional.

Hitler accused his enemies of being globalist, selfish Marxists, in a time where racial biology was considered proper science.


Usually PC culture is not considered to be anything but emotinoal nonsense.

So really its very easy to get away with hatred and evil as long as you know how to play your cards.



Also society is not about showing people love.


You think love rules the world?


When you are a kid and being raised and taught nobody does that with kindness, kinndess would be to give kids everything they want which would result in them being stupid and spoiled.

Schools have rules and they don't give you good grades out of kindness.

When you are a teenager you can't win at life for being kind or innocent and when you are an adult you can't get anything out of peoples love and affection without being called a parasite to society.


If homeless people sneaks into public buildings because they don't want to freeze to death at night they get taken by the security because sneaking into public buildings is illegal.

If poor people gets money from taxes to live luxuriously they get discredited as criminals who steal instead of working hard.

If people are too stupid to work hard there is no place for them either.

If you want good things in life you need to be smart, you can't live with love you need to live with reality.



I could give away all the money I have to homeless people out of love and end up just like them in return.

I could spend all the time I have trying to help people out of feelings of guilt but instead lose my career because of it.

Lets say you are too stupid to drive a car, nobody is gonna show you love and give you a license anyway.

And if they did the police wont show you love when you cause a trafick accident.

and nobody will drive you around because you want or need to drive around.

There is a such thing as "tough love." That's what you just describe. Hate is nothing but "praying on my downfall." You don't hate me because you want me to be successful.
 

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Love is a compliment to a ruling power.
It's never THE ruling force.
It's something to make the ruling power seem ok, but it's never the actual leader.
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If someone killed your family, you wouldn't love them, you would be fuled by hatred and love would never defeat that.
 
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Love is a compliment to a ruling power.
It's never THE ruling force.
It's something to make the ruling power seem ok, but it's never the actual leader.
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If someone killed your family, you wouldn't love them, you would be fuled by hatred and love would never defeat that.
Then that's just emotion. Where is the logic and reason of you hating my family?
 

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Then that's just emotion. Where is the logic and reason of you hating my family?
Oh there could be plenty of reasons, maybe I'm envious of them being happy and talented.
Or maybe I have issues and I take them out on random people, there could be plenty of reasons that leads to a logical conclusion to commit a crime.
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There is a such thing as "tough love." That's what you just describe. Hate is nothing but "praying on my downfall." You don't hate me because you want me to be successful.
hmm.....
yes you have a point.

The love I am thinking of is just pure stupidity.

The opposite of love isn't really what I'm thinking about either, but the lack of that stupidity seems essential for a functional society.

I do think that if enough people start to break all sorts of social contracts out of bad behaviour or stupidity or whatever it will lead to more hatred, it doesn't have to be caused by some minority it can just be people in general.

But that hatred would be impossible to argue against because it's based off of people being "bad".

And that hatred would therefore win all debates and lead to fascist type actions that would make life a living hell for people.



For example, imagine if 90 percent of the peolpe who drove cars started to ignore the laws of driving cars.


Imagine if 90 percent of all the people working at restaurants started to ignore good hygiene.


This would cause people to start hating on random individuals they suspect of this bad behaviour and tougher laws would be implemented to stop the chaos.
 

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It depends on the circumstances so you can't really just say one emotion. Hatred isn't always backed up by logic since you can hate somebody just to hate them. Love can be backed up by logic if the way you were raised was to love everybody or just get an 'emotional connection' with people. There's not going to be only one emotion. And even if one 'won,' you can't say who is in the right or wrong since both of them are understandable (They did something wrong so that person hates them, but that person knows they messed up but still loves them)
 

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It depends on the circumstances so you can't really just say one emotion. Hatred isn't always backed up by logic since you can hate somebody just to hate them. Love can be backed up by logic if the way you were raised was to love everybody or just get an 'emotional connection' with people. There's not going to be only one emotion. And even if one 'won,' you can't say who is in the right or wrong since both of them are understandable (They did something wrong so that person hates them, but that person knows they messed up but still loves them)
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