who was in the coffin that scared madara

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I am going to address your last point to make my reason for disagreeing with you clearer. If Madara was in his old body until he found Obito, as you claim then this would have been for YEARS after being weakened by the 1st hokage. How would he have survived during this time if a new body was required? He was beat up, in bad shape and after 60 years he decides"oh, here's a random uchiha who died immediately after awakening his sharingan, never mind that he's missing one eye this is JUST the vessel i need....."??? You see there must have been tons of uchihas who died before obito and whose bodies were even more inaccessible why not pick any of them? Immortality seeking people also prefer strong vessels, why else was orochimaru so obsessed with sasuke? Obito was , sadly a weakling and a very poor candidate for vessel.
When madara fought the first hokage, they were at least in the mid or near the 20s. Sarotobi (3rd hokage) was around when the first hokage was alive. When the 3rd hokage died he was about 68-70 years old. Naruto was about 12-13 when the third died. When madara told sasuke about the attack of the nine tail demon fox, he said it was 16 years ago from that point. Sasuke was 16. Since sasuke is just months older than naruto, they are about the same age. So the attack of the nine demon fox happened when the third was 55-57 years old. Kakashi was 15-16 years old when the attacked happened. Obito was crashed with the rocks when he was 12-13 years old. So this means that the third hokage was 42-45 years old when obito was crashed with the rocks. If the third hokage was around when the first hokage was still the kage and alive when he was 5-10 years old then this means that madara would have been 60-70 years old when obito was crashed by the rocks. Everyone gets beat up badly in naruto yet they still manage to recover. For example, J-man was severely damaged when naruto transformed to the demon. Madara only waited 40-45 years. He didn't need a body yet not until he was growing old. Madara would have looked like the third hokage or even worse if he had stayed in the same body. Obviously when madara was around 60-70 his body started to grow very old.

The fact that obito awakened his sharingan at such short age means that he was special which even brought more interest to madara. NOT ALL UCHIHAS ARE THE SAME. Until now only 4 were reported to have ever awakened the MS. Only two were reported to have awakened the EMS. Obviously not all uchiha's are special.

Plus, madara would careless about the conditions of the body he is getting as long as it is a young body and special. He would just use his zetsu to fix whatever needs to be fixed.
 

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When madara fought the first hokage, they were at least in the mid or near the 20s. Sarotobi (3rd hokage) was around when the first hokage was alive. When the 3rd hokage died he was about 68-70 years old. Naruto was about 12-13 when the third died. When madara told sasuke about the attack of the nine tail demon fox, he said it was 16 years ago from that point. Sasuke was 16. Since sasuke is just months older than naruto, they are about the same age. So the attack of the nine demon fox happened when the third was 55-57 years old. Kakashi was 15-16 years old when the attacked happened. Obito was crashed with the rocks when he was 12-13 years old. So this means that the third hokage was 42-45 years old when obito was crashed with the rocks. If the third hokage was around when the first hokage was still the kage and alive when he was 5-10 years old then this means that madara would have been 60-70 years old when obito was crashed by the rocks. Everyone gets beat up badly in naruto yet they still manage to recover. For example, J-man was severely damaged when naruto transformed to the demon. Madara only waited 40-45 years. He didn't need a body yet not until he was growing old. Madara would have looked like the third hokage or even worse if he had stayed in the same body. Obviously when madara was around 60-70 his body started to grow very old.

The fact that obito awakened his sharingan at such short age means that he was special which even brought more interest to madara. NOT ALL UCHIHAS ARE THE SAME. Until now only 4 were reported to have ever awakened the MS. Only two were reported to have awakened the EMS. Obviously not all uchiha's are special.

Plus, madara would careless about the conditions of the body he is getting as long as it is a young body and special. He would just use his zetsu to fix whatever needs to be fixed.
There are sooo many flaws in your argument i dont even know where to begin....ok, lets keep it simple and start with obito. Such a short age he awoke his sharingan? Really, for someone who professes to know everything about naruto you should know better than that. Kakashi was a jounin when Obito's sharingan awoke, most jounins are advanced in age, because after that rank the only one left is hokage. Even a very low age for a jounin would be 16( this is naruto's age when shikamaru, his class fellow and AGE-MATE is shown to be a jounin).Ninjas in squads like the one shown in kakashi chronicles, are ALWAYS the same age, making obito 16 at that time. For your information, itachi was 10 when he awoke his sharingan, while sasuke was 12-13.So obito's awakening can hardly be said to be at such a young age.
Furthermore, there is zero proof for any of the age's of the 3rd you have stated given anywhere in the manga, or for that matter any of the other ages. Did the 3rd and obito personally come and tell you their ages when they died, because it isnt given anywhere else....??Everyone knows all uchihas arent the same but YOU don't know that only 3 people, not 4 have awakened the MS( Madara, his brother and itachi).If your going to say kakashi, that does'nt count he's not uchiha while sasuke did'nt awaken it, he was given it by his brother. Therefore, your obito argument does'nt hold.
 

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ok come one if madara was to wait some 40-50 years why on earth would he pick obito? i mean he was weak and his sharingan only had 2 tomoe and for the record sasuke first awakened his eyes during the uchiha massacre and was not the same age as obito. obito sucked and just talked big why would madara wait all that time even if he was healed by zetsu and magicly find a body under 10 tons of rock which happened to be an uchiha i mean like the uchiha massacre hadnt even happened yet neither had the attack of the ninetails so theres like pretty much a whole village full of the uchiha so might as well pick up one with talent and 2 sharingans that are fully developed and the reason why he put the rinnegan in his left eye is because his left sharingan was sealed because he used izanagi its not like he was just choosing which eye on a whim he wanted both an ems and the rinnegan so why would he put the rinnegan in his good eye. and yondaimeminato u obviously hav too much free time and keep wastin all of ours with these dumb theories that dont make sense
 

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i no who it is (drum roll)................................................................................................................................................................................................................ that little carpenter guy wats his name the one from naruto 12 -18 (i think)
 

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There are sooo many flaws in your argument i dont even know where to begin....ok, lets keep it simple and start with obito. Such a short age he awoke his sharingan? Really, for someone who professes to know everything about naruto you should know better than that. Kakashi was a jounin when Obito's sharingan awoke, most jounins are advanced in age, because after that rank the only one left is hokage. Even a very low age for a jounin would be 16( this is naruto's age when shikamaru, his class fellow and AGE-MATE is shown to be a jounin).Ninjas in squads like the one shown in kakashi chronicles, are ALWAYS the same age, making obito 16 at that time. For your information, itachi was 10 when he awoke his sharingan, while sasuke was 12-13.So obito's awakening can hardly be said to be at such a young age.
Furthermore, there is zero proof for any of the age's of the 3rd you have stated given anywhere in the manga, or for that matter any of the other ages. Did the 3rd and obito personally come and tell you their ages when they died, because it isnt given anywhere else....??Everyone knows all uchihas arent the same but YOU don't know that only 3 people, not 4 have awakened the MS( Madara, his brother and itachi).If your going to say kakashi, that does'nt count he's not uchiha while sasuke did'nt awaken it, he was given it by his brother. Therefore, your obito argument does'nt hold.
i agree with alot of what you said but kakashi was 14 when he became a jounin, there is no specific age to become a jounin it only depends on how skilled you are,like gaara for example became a kage at age16,and itachi at 13 he was anbu leader while kakashi who was already jounin and still a regular anbu.peace off
 

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can you quote from where you know kakashi was 14 when he bacame a jounin? not that it matters as there are many other points proving obito is not madara
sorry that was incorect,but kakashi is 30 right now and 16 years ago he was 14 when the nine tails attacked,so im basically saying he was younger than 16 when obito died.and i know hes 30 now because it says it on naruto wiki :cool:
 

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There are sooo many flaws in your argument i dont even know where to begin....ok, lets keep it simple and start with obito. Such a short age he awoke his sharingan? Really, for someone who professes to know everything about naruto you should know better than that. Kakashi was a jounin when Obito's sharingan awoke, most jounins are advanced in age, because after that rank the only one left is hokage. Even a very low age for a jounin would be 16( this is naruto's age when shikamaru, his class fellow and AGE-MATE is shown to be a jounin).Ninjas in squads like the one shown in kakashi chronicles, are ALWAYS the same age, making obito 16 at that time. For your information, itachi was 10 when he awoke his sharingan, while sasuke was 12-13.So obito's awakening can hardly be said to be at such a young age.
Furthermore, there is zero proof for any of the age's of the 3rd you have stated given anywhere in the manga, or for that matter any of the other ages. Did the 3rd and obito personally come and tell you their ages when they died, because it isnt given anywhere else....??Everyone knows all uchihas arent the same but YOU don't know that only 3 people, not 4 have awakened the MS( Madara, his brother and itachi).If your going to say kakashi, that does'nt count he's not uchiha while sasuke did'nt awaken it, he was given it by his brother. Therefore, your obito argument does'nt hold.
uhm perhaps you should read naruto manga more before trying to correct me. As for the age of 3rd hokage, there are plenty of ways to estimate his age from naruto manga. Wiki estimated him to be 68-70 when he died. I agree with them. If you are looking for introductions for ea character in naruto manga, you are mistaken. It is the readers job to figure out the missing data/information/details. Kishi is just not going to bother putting "And then he dies at age 70" descriptions or something like this. It's pure dialogue between characters.

Uchiha Madara, Madara's brother, Itachi and sasuke. They are all uchiha who managed to awakened their MS. It doesn't matter how but they just did. Why wouldn't you count sasuke's MS? lol. Itachi didn't give sasuke those MS eyes. Itachi it's not the person who gives MS powers to anyone. Itachi did give powers to sasuke though. Itachi was just that special sacrifice that helped sasuke awaken his MS. Sasuke would have awakened his MS whether he didn't kill itachi or not. He just needed to kill his best friend or someone very special to him.
 
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