Who tanks Talk no Jutsu (+My Theory)

[Magnolius]

I was wondering if the renowned Talk no Jutsu that brought the mighty Nagato, Obito, Zabuza, and even Kurama himself (the literal embodiment of Shinju's hatred/Hate can't get any purer than this, folks :sdo to their knees, would be able to defeat people like Kabuto, Madara, Black Zetsu, Kaguya, Indra, Kinshiki, Orochimaru or Toneri? Would Jesus Naruto heal their hatred and evil with a little treatment and religion? Or could they tank it?

My theory is that Talk no Jutsu only works on people who deny their fate, like Izanami. Only those who are seeking to be evil, but are truly good inside can be swayed by Talk no Jutsu (it even persuaded someone to kill them-self for the sake of others, as well as a hypothetical peace, technically (Nagato)).

So most likely it would only work on Kabuto, Madara, Indra and Orochimaru. The rest are "pure evil" which Talk no Jutsu doesn't work against. Once you're a demon, you can never be an angel. People like Madara, Obito, Nagato, Indra, Orochimaru, Zabuza, Kabuto and Kurama may seem evil, but there still lingers within them a small amount of love and happiness that they've experienced before in their past, making them not so "pure evil" and vulnerable to Talk no Jutsu.

Go on little ones, discuss :sdo2:

 

[BlacLord™]

Why would Ashura seem evil?

 

[Aominecchi]

Seems about right, although Madara or Oro have high self esteem so I don't think they will ever listen to what Naruto has to say

 

[FoxesInWonderland]

Madara and kaguya are the only two who were ever talk no justu resistant. Every other has fallen to the might wrath of narutos love.

 

[Magnolius]

Why would Ashura seem evil?

...........He selfishly attacked his brother, corrupt by greed and jealousy, causing a continuous war amongst generation after generation, resulting in the death of well over a dozen thousand Shinobi including but not limited to; Madara, Hashirama, and several other fodder Uchiha and Senju.

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:sdo:

 

[Red Slayer]

Ashura isnt evil,Indra is bad one.

I think it wont work on Orochimaru,BZ and Kaguya
About Madara im not sure Hashi tryed to the end,but Maddy still reject him even though it was his last min.... idk maybe Naruto can changed him... not sure...

It would work on Kabuto,Toneri.
Kinshiki No idea

 

[BlacLord™]

...........He selfishly attacked his brother, corrupt by greed and jealousy, causing a continuous war amongst generations that resulted in the death of well over a dozen thousand Shinobi...

Spoiler

:sdo:

Ashura wanted Indra to cooperate; it was the latter who got jealous because Haggers chose Ashura's path over his.

 

[Magnolius]

Ashura wanted Indra to cooperate; it was the latter who got jealous because Haggers chose Ashura's path over his.

WELL I OBVIOUSLY GOT INDRA AND ASHURA MIXED UP :T_T: *goes to fix OP*

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Thanks for the correction though :sdo:

 

[Magnolius]

Ashura isnt evil,Indra is bad one.

I think it wont work on Orochimaru,BZ and Kaguya
About Madara im not sure Hashi tryed to the end,but Maddy still reject him even though it was his last min.... idk maybe Naruto can changed him... not sure...

It would work on Kabuto,Toneri.
Kinshiki No idea

Hashirama's Talk no Jutsu is inferior to Naruto's :sdo:

 

[Wes Sine]

I was wondering if the renowned Talk no Jutsu that brought the mighty Nagato, Obito, Zabuza, and even Kurama himself (the literal embodiment of Shinju's hatred/Hate can't get any purer than this, folks :sdo to their knees, would be able to defeat people like Kabuto, Madara, Black Zetsu, Kaguya, Ashura, Kinshiki, Orochimaru or Toneri? Would Jesus Naruto heal their hatred and evil with a little treatment and religion? Or could they tank it?

My theory is that Talk no Jutsu only works on people who deny their fate, like Izanami. Only those who are seeking to be evil, but are truly good inside can be swayed by Talk no Jutsu (it even persuaded someone to kill them-self for the sake of others, as well as a hypothetical peace, technically (Nagato)).

So most likely it would only work on Kabuto, Madara, Ashura and Orochimaru. The rest are "pure evil" which Talk no Jutsu doesn't work against. Once you're a demon, you can never be an angel. People like Madara, Obito, Nagato, Ashura, Orochimaru, Zabuza, Kabuto and Kurama may seem evil, but there still lingers within them a small amount of love and happiness that they've experienced before in their past, making them not so "pure evil" and vulnerable to Talk no Jutsu.

Go on little ones, discuss :sdo2:

Your title made me split my coffe on my keyboard... Love you man

 

[Umari Senju]

Only Madara, black Zetsu, and Kaguya as others have stated. They have a counter towards talk no jutsu called plotshield. Yup a rare thing that.

 

[Magnolius]

Your title made me split my coffe on my keyboard... Love you man

I like to keep mine off of my keyboard and in my mouth

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That sounded dirty.

 

[Magnolius]

Only Madara, black Zetsu, and Kaguya as others have stated. They have a counter towards talk no jutsu called plotshield. Yup a rare thing that.

I would have liked your post, but apparently the like button is disabled :sdo:

 

[Red Slayer]

Hashirama's Talk no Jutsu is inferior to Naruto's :sdo:

Yes Naruto's is superb,but Hashi still made Sasuke change his mind.... i mean his talk no jutsu is good too... naruto's is better yah, but maddy is one stubborn dude xD

 

[Magnolius]

Yes Naruto's is superb,but Hashi still made Sasuke change his mind.... i mean his talk no jutsu is good too... naruto's is better yah, but maddy is one stubborn dude xD

The only reason Hashirama made Sasuke change his mind was because Sasuke was already weakened by the previous damage he took from Naruto's Talk no Jutsu. Hashirama failed in finishing the job, and Naruto had to clean up after his mistakes. Hence the last fight between Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Madara and maybe Kaguya I think. Dazzit mang.

 

[Red Slayer]

The only reason Hashirama made Sasuke change his mind was because Sasuke was already weakened by the previous damage he took from Naruto's Talk no Jutsu. Hashirama failed in finishing the job, and Naruto had to clean up after his mistakes. Hence the last fight between Naruto and Sasuke.

When i said Hashi changed Sasuke mind i mean..... Sasuke didnt want to take revange and destroy village.... all other things like bringing Sasuke Back in leaf was Naruto's job

 

[Yatori]

I guess the talk no jutsu didnt work to last villain (madara & kaguya) so that Kishi can end things

 

[Nagi]

It wouldn't work on Madara or Orc. They ain't evil. They ain't trying to be somebody else. They acknowledge their limitation.

Sasuke....that's the fanbase fault. Sasuke really had no reason to pull a "lelouch" move after the war. His conversation with the 4 kages should've ended his personal hate. Ole boy should've took the rurouni kenshin path after sealing kaguya. But naww y'all just wanted to see him fight Naruto so badly. And kishi wanted everybody to be Naruto's development.

Lol, Naruto never tried to talk to Madara. He sensed his emotions and went like "Naw, ain't talking to Madara, he will make me feel stupid."

 

[Magnolius]

They ain't evil. They ain't trying to be somebody else. They acknowledge their limitation.

The same could be said for Nagato, but he was easily affected.

Also, don't say they "weren't evil", because I have scans that say otherwise :sdo:

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Happy 300th post!