Who tanks Talk no Jutsu (+My Theory)

[Nagi]

The same could be said for Nagato, but he was easily affected.

Also, don't say they "weren't evil", because I have scans that say otherwise :sdo:

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Nagato was a soft emotional brat who tried to grow up after his friend's death. Meaning deep down inside, he never really want to go through with it. Plus Tobi influenced him every step of the way.

You can show us scans of it saying they're evil, but you and I both know that all the villages are evil too, but you ain't gonna find a scan calling them evil.

 

[Magnolius]

Nagato was a soft emotional brat who tried to grow up after his friend's death.

Jeez, someones an apathetic individual. Give the kid a break, he's been through a lot.

Plus Tobi influenced him every step of the way.

Ah, Tobi. The one who also ended up dying under the influence of Talk no Jutsu :sdo: Anyways, your point is?

You can show us scans of it saying they're evil, but you and I both know that all the villages are evil too, but you ain't gonna find a scan calling them evil.

First of all, I never conceded to the villages being evil. That's a matter of opinion. Second of all, I can find a scan implying that the villages are evil, but the use of the word evil isn't guaranteed to be present. Third of all, your point is?

 

[Nagi]

Jeez, someones a sadistic individual. Give the kid a break, he's been through a lot.
You can show us scans of it saying they're evil, but you and I both know that all the villages are evil too, but you ain't gonna find a scan calling them evil.



Ah, Tobi. The one who also ended up dying under the influence of Talk no Jutsu :sdo: Anyways, your point is?



First of all, I never conceded to the villages being evil. That's a matter of opinion. Second of all, I can find a scan implying that the villages are evil, but the use of the word evil isn't guaranteed to be present. Third of all, your point is?

You said, "Same could be said for Nagato" when I said Madara and Orc. ain't evil. I'm saying it can't said for Nagato because at the end of the day, he was "talk-no-jutstu-ed" while Madara and Orc. wasn't.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

TnJ isn't a thing. If it was as literal as that then it'd the literal core foundation of Shippuden. Gross oversimplification.
[video=youtube;WnUPoP4SVtE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnUPoP4SVtE&ab_channel=SamyulDavis[/video]

 

[Magnolius]

You said, "Same could be said for Nagato" when I said Madara and Orc. ain't evil. I'm saying it can't said for Nagato because at the end of the day, he was "talk-no-jutstu-ed" while Madara and Orc. wasn't.

I said

The same could be said for Nagato, but he was easily affected.

when you said they

They ain't evil. They ain't trying to be somebody else. They acknowledge their limitation.

Your saying

Nagato was a soft emotional brat who tried to grow up after his friend's death.

In no way implies that Nagato was evil, tried to be someone else, or didn't know his limitations. Meaning that the same can be said for Nagato.

Also, if you were trying to imply that "tried to grow up" was meant as an example for "trying to be someone else" then you need to realize that there is a fine line between "trying to be someone else" and simply "trying to grow up"

 

[Magnolius]

TnJ isn't a thing. If it was as literal as that then it'd the literal core foundation of Shippuden. Gross oversimplification.
[video=youtube;WnUPoP4SVtE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnUPoP4SVtE&ab_channel=SamyulDavis[/video]

Of course TNJ isn't canon, it's just a little fanfic fun with well-stated, viable text citation to back up it's existence.

 

[NarutoX28]

Only Madara, black Zetsu, and Kaguya as others have stated. They have a counter towards talk no jutsu called plotshield. Yup a rare thing that.

Hashirama Talk no Jutsu'd Madara after he failed.

But you're right, BZ and Kaguya are immune to it.

 

[Reboryushon]

Before talk no jutsu takes place, a beating is in store. So basically the ones that Naruto can beat with his fists, are the ones that most likely will fall for TNJ.

But you're right, BZ and Kaguya are immune to it.

Their resolve is too strong.

 

[Nick01]

Madara and kaguya are the only two who were ever talk no justu resistant. Every other has fallen to the might wrath of narutos love.

This.

 

[Umari Senju]

Hashirama Talk no Jutsu'd Madara after he failed.

But you're right, BZ and Kaguya are immune to it.

Yeah but he was already dying so plotshield was broken leaving nothing to protect Madara from the almighty talk no jutsu XD

 

[Red Slayer]

Yeah but he was already dying so plotshield was broken leaving nothing to protect Madara from the almighty talk no jutsu XD

Didnt Madara still reject Hashirama?

 

[LoZelda101]

Sasuke was immune to TnJ, infact it made sasuke's hatred stronger. only reason naruto managed to budge in sasuke finally is because edo itachi brought back sasuke's sanity and hashirama brought back sasuke's somewhat moral standpoint. naruto had the easy part which was basically beat the shiit out of him then have the same pep talk that didn't work several years ago.

 

[Kushina san]

Didnt Madara still reject Hashirama?

Madara did not reject Hashirama

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But I agree that it has not come back good. Madara is one of few villain who has remained true to himself and his ideas. He is reconciled with Hashirama, but has not repented of his actions....

 

[Magnolius]

Didnt Madara still reject Hashirama?

That's what I was thinking.

Besides, this is a prime example of how Hashirama was a failure at talk no jutsu. He was decent, as shown by the fact that he got Madara to co-operate during their time alive. However, it took him double the time to convince Madara than it took Naruto to convince Sasuke. And even then, Madara still ended up betraying him and Konohagakure. Had Naruto administered the Talk no Jutsu to Madara instead of Hashirama, Madara would have fell victim long before his death.

 

[Magnolius]

Madara did not reject Hashirama

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But I agree that it has not come back good. Madara is one of few villain who has remained true to himself and his ideas. He is reconciled with Hashirama, but has not repented of his actions....

Funny how you used an edited scan :sdo:

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Nice try though :sdo: and if you want to try in say that his "I...won't" meant something else, the next scan makes it obvious that his "I...won't" meant he wouldn't exchange cups, and except Hashirama as a comrade.

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Just by the look on Hashirama's disappointed face. A face that has been rejected.

 

[Kushina san]

Lol that is VIZ scan. Mangapanda is trash. Funny how you don't know nothing :sdo:


Nice try

 

[Magnolius]

Lol that is VIZ scan.

Oh look, someone brought out their alt, how cute :th:

Mangapanda is trash.

Oh, so that must be why Naruto Base chooses to use Manga Panda scans over Viz scans. Because it's trash. Right? :sdo:

Funny how you don't know nothing

First of all, double negatives, bro. I don't mean to be a grammar nazi, but saying "you don't know nothing" is a common grammatical error made by the ignorant. The correct way to state that I don't know something would be to say "You don't know anything". Not that it downgrades the intentions of your post or anything of that sort, I just thought I would take the liberty of setting you straight.

 

[Umari Senju]

Didnt Madara still reject Hashirama?

You're right he did. Seems even without plotshield Maddy still resisted that which cannot be denied lol

 

[Kushina san]

Oh, so that must be why Naruto Base chooses to use Manga Panda scans over Viz scans. Because it's trash. Right?

No, maybe because VIZ scans do not exist, if you want to read them, amazon is a good site to buy, or go in this thread

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Either Mangapanda or *********** aren’t too accurate, because they race against time to release chapters ASAP, to the detriment of quality. Also, translators are part of the fandom, so they may let their bias show at times. Viz, it is the official and most accurate translation you will find. If you do not believe me, ask to anyone, even in NarutoForums if you want, and everyone will tell you the same thing lol

But if you really think that mangapanda > VIZ then i do not waste my time :sdo:

First of all, double negatives, bro. I don't mean to be a grammar nazi, but saying "you don't know nothing" is a common grammatical error made by the ignorant. The correct way to state that I don't know something would be to say "You don't know anything". Not that it downgrades the intentions of your post or anything of that sort, I just thought I would take the liberty of setting you straight.

I'm not english, in a forum i do not control too much the errors

You're right he did. Seems even without plotshield Maddy still resisted that which cannot be denied lol

Madara did not rejected Hashirama, is so difficult to accept? .-. I completely agree that he was "anti tnj", but Madara it was reconciled with Hashirama, it was obvious it would happen after seeing their flashbacks.

 

[Illuminater]

Madara, sheesh this is embarassingly sad that ppl dont know that