Who shouldered the most? Naruto Or Sasuke?

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Someone trying too kill you dude that was about too kill him and Iruka it was before Naruto was even a Genin > Tsk
Not having a family while you were shunned

I think Naruto life was crap until he met Jiraiya that's when it all changed
Yeah, changed.

Sasuke life didn't change XD until what? VOTE2?

Lmao, Sasuke wins. People died but Naruto brushed it off and seemed like it didn't matter.
He almost broke in the war, but hinata helped him, hell even sauce when he sliced the tree.

Still, Sasuke didn't change.
 

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Naruto . Not only did he shoulder his own problem, he shouldered a piece of everyone else's responsibilities, problems, and hate (including sasuke) and handled it in a positive way .

I see people turning it into a who suffered the most convo which isn't really the point .
 

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I'm sorry. Good night. For some reason, You seem to have forgotten that Sasuke was a freaking child When Itachi killed mother and father in front of Sasuke and mind him. Then after Sasuke nearly moved on while being on team 7, Itachi came back and mind raped him again. Sasuke clearly see that not even kakashi stood a chance against Itachi. Sasuke now have no reason to stay in the village since his own teacher is not even strong enough to stand against Itachi!

Yeah, I'm sorry. Good night. Clearly, I'm the only one that understand both of their suffering.
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Chill bro, I never stated that Sasuke never endured any pain, you know that speech from Roky Balboa ? I know its off topic but I think it can at least make you understand my point of view. Here it is :

Somewhere along the line, you changed. You stopped being you. You let people stick a finger in your face and tell you you're no good. And when things got hard, you started looking for something to blame, like a big shadow. Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that! I'm always gonna love you no matter what. No matter what happens. You're my son and you're my blood. You're the best thing in my life. But until you start believing in yourself, ya ain't gonna have a life.

That's the path he took bro, Sasuke endured it but at some point he just couldn't handle it.

Idk if you understood or not but that's what I am saying - peace
 

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Chill bro, I never stated that Sasuke never endured any pain, you know that speech from Roky Balboa ? I know its off topic but I think it can at least make you understand my point of view. Here it is :

Somewhere along the line, you changed. You stopped being you. You let people stick a finger in your face and tell you you're no good. And when things got hard, you started looking for something to blame, like a big shadow. Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you! You're better than that! I'm always gonna love you no matter what. No matter what happens. You're my son and you're my blood. You're the best thing in my life. But until you start believing in yourself, ya ain't gonna have a life.

That's the path he took bro, Sasuke endured it but at some point he just couldn't handle it.

Idk if you understood or not but that's what I am saying - peace
lol wrong speech for this! bro! Sasuke wanted to be the leader of the Uchiha clan when he was a kid. Couldn't do that anymore due to his whole clan being wiped out. Sasuke never had a chance to sit down and figure out what he want to be. Every breath he took after that night was revenge against itachi.

I don't get this. How can people say Sasuke's revenge is not good but shikamaru's revenge is good? shikamaru left the village with ill-intent to take revenge for his teacher.

I get what you're saying. But in my eyes, Sasuke is more human than Naruto! You're asking Sasuke to come back to the village forgive them for killing his clan and put Itachi through that. You gotta be stupid to forgive period like that. It is either revenge or just leave the shinobi world and travel for the rest of his life.

How can Sasuke find peace when it is the shinobi system that creates this problem? No such thing as peace. You can find happiness! Sasuke was finding that in his path of revenge! lol
 
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Manga facts that even Sasuke agrees.^
How Sasuke more or less ran from everything? Dude focus on his dream of killing Itachi and did whatever it take to make it happen. Kind of funny, Naruto on many occasions was gonna do whatever it take to beat his enemy. Even unleash Kurama when he is losing.

If you had posted the page before that one, you will see that Naruto say he feel hurt every time he see Sasuke hurting. This clearly show that Naruto go out of his way and choose to shouldered shit when he really didn't have to.
 

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lol wrong speech for this! bro! Sasuke wanted to be the leader of the Uchiha clan when he was a kid. Couldn't do that anymore due to his whole clan being wiped out. Sasuke never had a chance to sit down and figure out what he want to be. Every breath he took after that night was revenge against itachi.

I don't get this. How can people say Sasuke's revenge is not good but shikamaru's revenge is good? shikamaru left the village with ill-intent to take revenge for his teacher.

I get what you're saying. But in my eyes, Sasuke is more human than Naruto! You're asking Sasuke to come back to the village forgive them for killing his clan and put Itachi through that. You gotta be stupid to forgive period like that. It is either revenge or just leave the shinobi world and travel for the rest of his life.

How can Sasuke find peace when it is the shinobi system that creates this problem? No such thing as peace. You can find happiness! Sasuke was finding that in his path of revenge! lol
Naruto also hated the village & the villagers at one point but how come he turned out good. Because he trusted his friends. Sasuke, given his trauma, lacked trust among his comrades and monopolize his hatred by wanting to do everything by himself . As Naruto once so eloquently put it, the "wolf act".

Naruto was stunned by the village yet look at him now, he is adored by them & he accepts it. Opportunities are not given, you take your time and create it. Obito gave Sasuke the time & chance, but Sasuke misused it & went along with Obito's offer. Call it swayed or whatever you want, all works in my favour. Added to this, Sasuke also knew the outcome, each decisions he made held meaning only by affecting the next. All that's left was for him to die, and it came, until Naruto persuaded him to stay beside him.

As for Shikamaru, it was still an active mission & he had his friends at the moment -Feel free to check ☑​
 
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Naruto also hated the village & the villagers at one point but how come he turned out good. Because he trusted his friends. Sasuke, given his trauma, lacked trust among his comrades and monopolize his hatred by wanting to do everything by himself . As Naruto once so eloquently put it, the "wolf act".

Naruto was stunned by the village yet look at him now, he is adored by them & he accepts it. Opportunities are not given, you take your time and create it. Obito gave Sasuke the time & chance, but Sasuke misused it & went along with Obito's offer. Call it swayed or whatever you want, all works in my favour. Added to this, Sasuke also knew the outcome, each decisions he made held meaning only by affecting the next. All that's left was for him to die, and it came, until Naruto persuaded him to stay beside him.

As for Shikamaru, it was still an active mission & he had his friends at the moment -Feel free to check ☑​
If you're talking about the waterfall, It was his mother that stop him from going to the dark side. Not his friends. You can't really say naruto hatred the village, because not once at all Naruto had shown ill-intent against the village like Sasuke did.

Itachi is listed in the bingo book so it is a 27/7 active mission!
 

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I don't have the time to explain it you at the moment, but i'll try.

If you're talking about the waterfall, It was his mother that stop him from going to the dark side. Not his friends.

That's not the one


You can't really say naruto hatred the village, because not once at all Naruto had shown ill-intent against the village like Sasuke did.
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Itachi is listed in the bingo book so it is a 27/7 active mission!
That's not a mission, it has to have the hokage's approval for it to be considered it as an official mission, which it did not.

Moreover, Sasuke was a rouge ninja since he left the village - applies globally


 

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I don't have the time to explain it you at the moment, but i'll try.



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That's not a mission, it has to have the hokage's approval for it to be considered it as an official mission, which it did not.

Moreover, Sasuke was a rouge ninja since he left the village - applies globally


You just showed me a scan of naruto not knowing shit about the shinboi system or anything. In fact, you're showing a scan of when naruto wasn't even acknowledge yet. So therefore that can't be listed as ill-intent with reasons. If you say otherwise, then you will be proving how childish his ill-intent was compare to Sasuke!

Update: you gotta be joking. You just tried to trolled me with that scan! Good night!
 
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You just showed me a scan of naruto not knowing shit about the shinboi system or anything. In fact, you're showing a scan of when naruto wasn't even acknowledge yet. So therefore that can't be listed as ill-intent with reasons. If you say otherwise, then you will be proving how childish his ill-intent was compare to Sasuke!

Update: you gotta be joking. You just tried to trolled me with that scan! Good night!
That hurts my feelings bro, all I've been doing is posting facts & scans while you troll and get off topic, and you are calling me a troll ? :lol

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain all of this to you, so i'll make it short .. but if you were any dumber I would have to water you twice a week.


Naruto hated the village at that time, but he soon changed after Iruka's words. He established trust, childish or not, he was hating the village and he changed.

Okay, how about this. Naruto confronted his hatred [EVIL NARUTO] at the waterfalls by himseld, literally.

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So, Sasuke lacked self-confidence and trust among comrades. Nap time boi​


 
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I don't think you can compare. What's hard for some may be easy for others.

The reason of their suffering might be different, but I think the feeling is the same.
 

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Naruto.

The question is not in terms of suffering but in terns of responsibility.

Naruto not only achieved his dream but also his father's, Jiraya's, Itachi's, Nagato's, Hashirama's and basically all the Shinobi world's dream of peace. That is a lot if people's responivilty. He further shouldered Itachi's responsibility when he entrusted Sasuke to him. He took all the responsibilty of Sasuke's hate in such a way that Sasuke channeled all his hate on Naruto and came out of it free. Naruto is embodiment of the hope of people.
Sasuke has seldom shown any responsibility towards others. He would use then and kill them if it suits his purpose (Karin). Now he is helping Naruto with keeping the village safe. This is a first. This is his first major responsibility.
 

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It takes much more strength to help others than to help yourself. So in my book its Naruto who had it harder.

Don't forget Naruto took on Sasuke's pain too, which is something Sasuke never did for others.
 
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Sasuke he even had to hold his tongue and show restraint at those responsible and he forgave all of them except Danzo.
Even now whenever he sees there faces it's in the back of his mind because he can't avenge.
And Naruto did not spend his entire life trying to rid the world of hatred(more towards the end ) but always broke like a baby and needed a fodder to pick him up. Even during the war.
 
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