Who said Naruto didn't have talent?

[Mamoru]

hard work =/= talent
talent is natural inclination to something and doing it (extremely) well

naruto had to work his ass off for that. he didn't have talent as a birth right. It just goes to show that effort trumps talent.

 

[Sageflash]

Natural Talent is people who call themselves Genius. Naruto was never called a genius.

Rock Lee was called a genius twice, and he has no natural talent. His taijutsu was ghastly at first, he had to train for it.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Every Shinobi trains, even Sakura does. Point is, Naruto really trained hard, suffered and took a lot of shit in order to become as strong as sasuke, while sasuke on the other hand, had everything lined up for him. (born an uchiha and etc).

Sasuke went through emotional hell to get to where he is today.Again one would argue being the son of a Uzumaki and having the strongest bijuu trapped inside him would also count as Naruto having things line up for him.

 

[Sageflash]

Some would argue having a bijuu sealed inside them would qualify as a free power up.Sasuke only had three free power ups tops and the rest he trained his ass off to get.

Only Uzumaki have shown to have bodies strong enough to host Kurama. How is that free power when he's born to a special clan, yet a Sharingan isn't? It's the same shit in essence, hailing from a clan that enables you to further yourself.

 

[FoxesInWonderland]

Both naruto and sasuke have worked hard to get to where they are currently. Both have suffered and both have endured. What's with you guys man? Is this all you guys do? Argue over two characters? They're both great characters get over it..

 

[Silent Phantom]

Talent isn't born from Hard work lol.


Sasuke was born with the Sharingan, instantly making him > any other babies. Hewas given the Curse mark when he was like, 10 years old. he had that same mark up-untill he was given the Mangekyo Sharingan by his brother, at this point, he curse mark was removed.
When Sasuke's MS becomes "Too weak" He takes his brothers eyes. When EMS isn't enough to beat Obito, he borrows Juugo's SM. When that isn't enough, he borrows the Kyuubi/Naruto

He wasn't born with it he awakened it after Itachi slaughtered everyone then kept progressing it for years. Hyuuga's are born with the Byakugan though. Sasuke was given the curse mark but Naruto had the half of the most OP tailed beast sealed in him and even though its half its still apparently stronger than almost all the other beasts combined.

 

[evansvuvor]

Naruto is more talented than rock lee. But he's not special (apart from being an uzumaki). Naruto would not be in top 15 without being kyuubi jinchuriki

Explain how he was able to brought down five of Pains without the Kyubi's power?

 

[Flawž]

Sasuke went through emotional hell to get to where he is today.Again one would argue being the son of a Uzumaki and having the strongest bijuu trapped inside him would also count as Naruto having things line up for him.

Kurama was a burden for naruto his whole life, that's not having things lined up for him. Naruto couldn't even control chakra properly with Kurama inside him, he couldn't learn jutsu fast enough because of Kurama and His Sage Mode was also blocked by Kurama. So no, Kurama did more damage to naruto than Good.

 

[Mamoru]

Having a Kekkei Genkai = being a genius in the NV

No. Sasuke in general is more battle-savvy than Naruto. This is basically a fact. He can assess a situation and produce a solution to it quickly while in the midst of battle. Naruto isn't so sharp.

Sasuke has talent. Naruto has spirit. Effort =/= talent. However effort > talent
If anyone wants to argue about Sasuke's sharingan then the page can easily be flipped on Naruto with Kurama.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Only Uzumaki have shown to have bodies strong enough to host Kurama. How is that free power when he's born to a special clan, yet a Sharingan isn't? It's the same shit in essence, hailing from a clan that enables you to further yourself.

Because the Sharingan is something that not every Uchiha will awaken,the ones that do won't even advance to 3 tomoe aside from a select few.Whereas being a Uzumaki not only gives you immense chakra reserves but a extended life span as well.

 

[Sageflash]

No. Sasuke in general is more battle-savvy than Naruto. This is basically a fact. He can assess a situation and produce a solution to it quickly while in the midst of battle. Naruto isn't so sharp.

Sasuke has talent. Naruto has spirit. Effort =/= talent. However effort > talent

No, it's not fact, lol. Naruto has shown to be a top-tier battle strategist and quick thinker and exercise more tact than Sasuke, a la Sasuke attacking the Kage summit way over his head or attacking Madara twice and getting burned both times, the latter resulting in his death.

He has shown some good analytical skills like in the Deidara fight, but him having the Sharingan is his true source of genius.

 

[Mitarashi]

No. Sasuke in general is more battle-savvy than Naruto. This is basically a fact. He can assess a situation and produce a solution to it quickly while in the midst of battle. Naruto isn't so sharp.

Sasuke has talent. Naruto has spirit. Effort =/= talent. However effort > talent
If anyone wants to argue about Sasuke's sharingan then the page can easily be flipped on Naruto with Kurama.

Lately Nartuo has been ALOT smarter and battle wise than Naruto
Examples being..
Naruto found out Senjutsu works on Obito.
Naruto Saved the Sasuke with Minato's chakra link ect.
Tells Sasuke that Ninjutsu won't work.

Not to mention Sasuke tried to ambush Madz from the sky and got skewered like a kebab, and Naruto was only defeated because his Bijuu was extracted.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Kurama was a burden for naruto his whole life, that's not having things lined up for him. Naruto couldn't even control chakra properly with Kurama inside him, he couldn't learn jutsu fast enough because of Kurama and His Sage Mode was also blocked by Kurama. So no, Kurama did more damage to naruto than Good.

True,but in the end Naruto is one of the strongest characters in NV thanks to Kurama.I think we can all agree that Naruto without Kurama would'nt be where he is today,same thing with Sasuke unlocking the MS after finding out what Itachi went through.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

No, it's not fact, lol. Naruto has shown to be a top-tier battle strategist and quick thinker and exercise more tact than Sasuke, a la Sasuke attacking the Kage summit way over his head or attacking Madara twice and getting burned both times, the latter resulting in his death.

He has shown some good analytical skills like in the Deidara fight, but him having the Sharingan is his true source of genius.

I diasagree,Sasuke was considered a genius way before rewakening his Sharingan.

 

[Mamoru]

No, it's not fact, lol. Naruto has shown to be a top-tier battle strategist and quick thinker and exercise more tact than Sasuke, a la Sasuke attacking the Kage summit way over his head or attacking Madara twice and getting burned both times, the latter resulting in his death.

He has shown some good analytical skills like in the Deidara fight, but him having the Sharingan is his true source of genius.

It practically is. Naruto can barely be called a strategist. He's very impulsive and acts on his emotions rather than thorough thinking like Sasuke does, and just goes head-in the battle without a second thought.

With or without his sharingan, he's still more analytical than Naruto. To pretend Naruto is some battle genius that is capable of composing some effective battle layout is ridiculous. He's not that type. And there's nothing wrong with it either since he's strong(er) with or without it. Naruto wouldn't be anything without Kurama, so we could talk about how Kurama is the main source of his (overwhelming) power.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It practically is. Naruto can barely be called a strategist. He's very impulsive and acts on his emotions rather than thorough thinking like Sasuke does, and just goes head-in the battle without a second thought.

With or without his sharingan, he's still more analytical than Naruto. To pretend Naruto is some battle genius that is capable of composing some effective battle layout is ridiculous. He's not that type. And there's nothing wrong with it either since he's strong(er) with or without it. Naruto wouldn't be anything without Kurama, so we could talk about how Kurama is the main source of his (overwhelming) power.

They're both shown times of being hot headed and impulsive so that's not exclusive to Naruto.

 

[Mamoru]

Lately Nartuo has been ALOT smarter and battle wise than Naruto
Examples being..
Naruto found out Senjutsu works on Obito.
Naruto Saved the Sasuke with Minato's chakra link ect.
Tells Sasuke that Ninjutsu won't work.

Not to mention Sasuke tried to ambush Madz from the sky and got skewered like a kebab, and Naruto was only defeated because his Bijuu was extracted.

Lately, perhaps. But his current state of mind doesn't make him more battle-savvy overall though. You have to look at the entire thing rather than current conditions.

Naruto isn't as stupid (well he sort of is in general) as most people say, but he's not any genius either. Sasuke trumps him in analytical skills.

Sasuke has talent, Naruto has spirit/effort. Hard work + effort > talent, which is why Naruto wins this race.

 

[Champ]

Think it was Kurama

 

[Sageof7Path]

Well.
He was a terrible shinobi until he formed the Rasengan, and continued to be a mediocre shinobi until he could use Kyuubi's chakra and/or Rasen-shuriken/Sage mode.


He only learned these things through Hard work ect.
He was inherently a fairly un-talented Shinobi, but he continuously progresses.

He was talented and he learned these things because like everyone else who learns something he had some one to teach him. Work hard yeah ok it took him about two weeks to master the rasengan a technique that tsunade thought would take years to master. Yes he worked hard to master that He wasn't in talented he learned these things because like everyone else who learns something he had some one to teach him. Work hard yeah ok it took him about two wekas to master the ease fan a technique that tsunade thought would take years to master. Yes he worked hard to master that Hutus but it still doesn't change the fact that it only took him a couple weeks. You say he was fairly in talented? We'll tell me how many grinning at his age could summon gamma the chief toad?
but it still doesn't change the fact that it only took him a couple weeks. You say he was fairly in talented? We'll tell me how many gin men at his age could summon gamma the chief toad?
He wasn't in talented he learned these things because like everyone else who learns something he had some one to teach him. Work hard yeah ok it took him about two wekas to master the ease fan a technique that tsunade thought would take years to master. Yes he worked hard to master that jutu but it still doesn't change the fact that it only took him a couple weeks. You say he was fairly in talented? We'll tell me how many ginnen at his age could summon gamma the chief toad? Last time I checked no hen in could do the shadow clone jutsu. He also defeated a bijuu and the chief toad said he hadn't seen someone with his promise in ages.

 

[Mitarashi]

He was talented and he learned these things because like everyone else who learns something he had some one to teach him. Work hard yeah ok it took him about two weeks to master the rasengan a technique that tsunade thought would take years to master. Yes he worked hard to master that He wasn't in talented he learned these things because like everyone else who learns something he had some one to teach him. Work hard yeah ok it took him about two wekas to master the ease fan a technique that tsunade thought would take years to master. Yes he worked hard to master that Hutus but it still doesn't change the fact that it only took him a couple weeks. You say he was fairly in talented? We'll tell me how many grinning at his age could summon gamma the chief toad?
but it still doesn't change the fact that it only took him a couple weeks. You say he was fairly in talented? We'll tell me how many gin men at his age could summon gamma the chief toad?
He wasn't in talented he learned these things because like everyone else who learns something he had some one to teach him. Work hard yeah ok it took him about two wekas to master the ease fan a technique that tsunade thought would take years to master. Yes he worked hard to master that jutu but it still doesn't change the fact that it only took him a couple weeks. You say he was fairly in talented? We'll tell me how many ginnen at his age could summon gamma the chief toad? Last time I checked no hen in could do the shadow clone jutsu. He also defeated a bijuu and the chief toad said he hadn't seen someone with his promise in ages.

Oh god please go back and fix this.
Cuz I ain't reading no Wall of Text jutsu.