Who is the Reaper Death Spirit?

[The Necromancer]

My good friend Gabuman is having trouble getting his thread approved, so I will be posting it for him.

Hey guys this is my first theory post so go easy on me

After 670 was released, some people have been saying that Kaguya is definitely the RDS. Because we know nothing about Kaguya post eating the fruit, I assume that this is because they have so many visual similarities. But if you look at each one of them closely, you'll find that the similarities aren't really that close at all.

Let's start with Kaguya

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From the four frames that she was actually shown in 670, we can say that she has

*Straight hair that is very long

*A delicate facial structure and jaw line

*Two markings on her forehead

*Eyes that are either completely white, or some sort of Byakugan-esque situation

*A slender build

*Pointed nails

*Long thin horns that are flat on the sides

*A large robe that is closed very high on the chest, almost at the neck

And now the Reaper Death Spirit

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The three points in the series with RDS all have its image being pretty consistent

*Long, shaggy hair

*Strong masculine facial structure

*Long tongue and sharp teeth

*Small light, piercing pupils on a black eye

*Very broad body

*Pointed nails

*Rounded horns that are very conical

*A white robe that is opened very low on the chest area, sometimes reveals as much as the stomach

So looking at these visual points and comparing them...

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*Every frame of Kaguya had extremely straight hair while the RDS wears its hair very shaggy

*The RDS is very masculine in the face and lacks the two markings that Kaguya's feminine, delicate face has

*Their eyes are nowhere near similar

*The RDS is shown to be very broad, much more broad than Kaguya

*Kaguya's robe is decorated all over the place with magatama. RDS's robe lacks these decoratons.

*They may both have horns, but the style of horns are totally different

*RDS's robe opens very low on the chest, revealing the stomach and chest. Considering that Kaguya is a female, I doubt she would have her robe open in a way that would reveal her chest, even if she is immortal.

I think it is pretty clear that these two, based on appearance alone, are not one in the same. However, their similarities are close enough to convince me that there is something that links these two together. I think that the link lies within her second son.

Now again, we know absolutely nothing about Hagoromo's brother except one frame where we can see him, and that he sealed part of the Juubi inside of him. But if we look at his image

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*Long, shaggy white hair

*Horns, unknown how they are designed

*Large white robe

Based off what we can see, there are actual similarities between the 2nd son and the RDS

*Speculation Begins Here*

After sealing the Juubi within themselves, Hagoromo awakened the Rinnegan and his brother did not. We know that his brother did not awaken the rinnegan because Black Zetsu said so.

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I think that the sages brother became jealous of his powers and began to plot against him and Kaguya. When he tried to carry out his plot, he was stopped by the Sage and Kaguya. Seeing his act as unforgivable, Kaguya and the sage punished the 2nd son by performing a ritual to turn him into the RDS, forcing him to maintain death for all time.

*Speculation Ends Here*

Like I said, the only thing we can even base these arguments on right now is appearance as we still don't know enough about Kaguya and her 2nd son. But thats what I think happened to him.

Thanks for reading, let me know what you think =D

 

[-Punk-]

Clearly Kaguya .

 

[yinyang180]

dude!!!! THAT MADE WAAAY MORE SENSE THAN KAGUYA, HAVE ALL MY REPS AND THANKS BABY!!!

 

[- J AV -]

Well nice theory. I will wait for kishi to explain who is soul in RDS?

 

[Kαmi]

Not a bad argument at all. Especially considering Hagoromo's brother looked like he had long hair like the Death Reaper. Also seems viable since we can tell that the brother clearly didn't unlock thanks the Zetsu's words. I have my own thoughts about Kaguya and the Sage's brother but this sounds plausible so far to me so I won't deny this possibility even though in biased to my own beliefs.

Where is Gabuman? He deserves some rep for this thread u_u

 

[-Drāke-]

Clearly Kaguya .

So bold
lolkolkolkoliol

 

[Berimbolo No Jutsu]

Interesting, and makes sense, but that would be a little anti climatic. Why introduce a character that powerful so close to the climax if he is just going to be a weak ass spirit orochimaru just yoked up and robbed?

I'm thinking it's possible, but it seems way more likely to me that bro-sage is a bigger threat. Here is my thoughts:

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[Rize]

Ur mum....

 

[The Necromancer]

Not a bad argument at all. Especially considering Hagoromo's brother looked like he had long hair like the Death Reaper. Also seems viable since we can tell that the brother clearly didn't unlock thanks the Zetsu's words. I have my own thoughts about Kaguya and the Sage's brother but this sounds plausible so far to me so I won't deny this possibility even though in biased to my own beliefs.

Where is Gabuman? He deserves some rep for this thread u_u

At work apparently. Haha

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Dude, this is just Kishi's drawing style. He first drew the death reaper in part one of naruto 10 years ago. Do you think he was planing that far ahead???? Yeah righ, Kishi is bearly able to plan one week ahead. Im calling bullshit on this thread.

 

[Gabuman]

Hey guys! Thanks Necromancer for posting this for me! I'm at work right now so I can't really debate on this but once I get off I'll be here. Thanks! ^__^

 

[Booker]

It's clearly Kaguya.

 

[Kαmi]

At work apparently. Haha

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That bastard

Just playing Lol Anyways, I did have one thing to add though. I think if this was the case, only The Sage would have been the one to condemn his brother this way and not the Sage and Kaguya. If I remember correctly, the Sage said he and his brother fought the Juubi to atone for his mother's sins yes? I was under the impression that this was the case but she herself was either dead or unable to do it alone. The Sage saying his mother was the strongest further influences my reasoning for thinking this.

 

[Desanto]

It's Kaguya. Reagan looked nowhere near this

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before getting possessed.

Its clear that Kaguya went through a HUGE transformation after being turned into Death itself.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Seeing as how black zetsu's knowledge is limited to what maddy knows(and what maddy knows is its what's on the tablet(which in it of it self is flawed))
No.

 

[Gabuman]

Thanks everyone who agrees that this is a possibility!

Dude, this is just Kishi's drawing style. He first drew the death reaper in part one of naruto 10 years ago. Do you think he was planing that far ahead???? Yeah righ, Kishi is bearly able to plan one week ahead. Im calling bullshit on this thread.

Yeah, Kishi drew the Death God 10 years ago, but he had the option to make minor changes in the three main points of the series that he drew him. Especially considering that the last time he drew the reaper was only about 50 chapters ago.

You are also failing to look at this from the other end. He only began talking about Kaguya recently so there he had the opportunity to make the similarities much closer than he did. He wasn't "locked in" to a look for her, he made her look the way she does. Some small similarities suggesting a connection, but not enough for a definite answer.

It's Kaguya. Reagan looked nowhere near this

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before getting possessed.

Its clear that Kaguya went through a HUGE transformation after being turned into Death itself.

The example you gave was about possession. It could be assumed that she changed to better suit the spirit possessing her. Which doesn't work in Kaguya's case unless the Death God already existed and chose to posses her. Which in that case, I would be totally okay with that being the explanation. But my point still stands that there isn't enough solid evidence to say that, without a doubt, Kaguya is the Death God.

 

[Gabuman]

Thanks everyone who agrees that this is a possibility!

Dude, this is just Kishi's drawing style. He first drew the death reaper in part one of naruto 10 years ago. Do you think he was planing that far ahead???? Yeah righ, Kishi is bearly able to plan one week ahead. Im calling bullshit on this thread.

Yeah, Kishi drew the Death God 10 years ago, but he had the option to make minor changes in the three main points of the series that he drew him. Especially considering that the last time he drew the reaper was only about 50 chapters ago.

You are also failing to look at this from the other end. He only began talking about Kaguya recently so there he had the opportunity to make the similarities much closer than he did. He wasn't "locked in" to a look for her, he made her look the way she does. Some small similarities suggesting a connection, but not enough for a definite answer.

It's Kaguya. Reagan looked nowhere near this before getting possessed.

Its clear that Kaguya went through a HUGE transformation after being turned into Death itself.

The example you gave was about possession. It could be assumed that she changed to better suit the spirit possessing her. Which doesn't work in Kaguya's case unless the Death God already existed and chose to posses her. Which in that case, I would be totally okay with that being the explanation. But my point still stands that there isn't enough solid evidence to say that, without a doubt, Kaguya is the Death God.

 

[Sageflash]

Hrm, distinct possibility. Very nice read. I think I would prefer this over Kaguya being the RDS.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The mere fact that the Reaper is a Hannya Demoness points to the fact that it's Kaguya, and yes, the Reaper is a woman.

 

[Gabuman]

The mere fact that the Reaper is a Hannya Demoness points to the fact that it's Kaguya, and yes, the Reaper is a woman.

Where did they say it was a Demoness or say that the Reaper was a female?