Who is the real sasuke THE TRUTH with PROOF
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MinaUchiha
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Just want to say thank you man, this is one of the most educated, well-thought out posts ive had the pleasure of reading. You provided lots of proof and even woke me up because of all the fanboyism that goes on around here, i was brainwashed to think sasuke was actually better than he really was (though i noticed a lot of this before hand).
People dont like to see their favorite character broken down but unfortunately sasuke, itachi, nagato arent gods everyone. =\
THEY CANNOT SOLO EVERYONE.. EVERYONE IN THE NARUTO MANGA CAN LOSE TO ATLEAST 1 OTHER SHINOBI.
P.S i feel everyone will learn a valuable lesson in the end, the story of naruto is about a boys bond an undying friendship, sasuke will lose and wonder why? because he never took the time to realize HIS FRIENDS AND HIS TEAM CARRIED HIM, REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD U THINK U ARE.
People dont like to see their favorite character broken down but unfortunately sasuke, itachi, nagato arent gods everyone. =\
THEY CANNOT SOLO EVERYONE.. EVERYONE IN THE NARUTO MANGA CAN LOSE TO ATLEAST 1 OTHER SHINOBI.
P.S i feel everyone will learn a valuable lesson in the end, the story of naruto is about a boys bond an undying friendship, sasuke will lose and wonder why? because he never took the time to realize HIS FRIENDS AND HIS TEAM CARRIED HIM, REGARDLESS OF HOW GOOD U THINK U ARE.
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I See alot of Uchiha's hurt from this breakdown. It anything it just means it hit a nerve and has to well somewhat or fully true, or they wouldnt even bother post. This thread isnt divided as they think it is, alot of people are saying good job and + rep. This thread has support and not as stupid as people like to say it is.
Also if you can counter this thread, then do it. When people stoop to the level of : Its the manga and it thats it. Its liner and thats just how it flows, by the plot. Then let me ask you why should you able to write any type of forum you want, but then not let others write any forum they choose? Its forums, and thats just how it is. Liner development of the website.
Character breakdowns are real as they get and that why people bug out against them, yet they wont counter essay this. This thread is about how Sasuke is a B rank and not others, please read the thread.
{ By the way, using proper grammar is just a way to make you look smart in this society today, alot of people didnt see it as important years ago until the internet really got big/ advertising. Its a form of the new { Proper Education } }
Also if you can counter this thread, then do it. When people stoop to the level of : Its the manga and it thats it. Its liner and thats just how it flows, by the plot. Then let me ask you why should you able to write any type of forum you want, but then not let others write any forum they choose? Its forums, and thats just how it is. Liner development of the website.
Character breakdowns are real as they get and that why people bug out against them, yet they wont counter essay this. This thread is about how Sasuke is a B rank and not others, please read the thread.
{ By the way, using proper grammar is just a way to make you look smart in this society today, alot of people didnt see it as important years ago until the internet really got big/ advertising. Its a form of the new { Proper Education } }
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im gunna not read it and say that i didLets get this straight sasuke isnt underated sasuke has been given handouts by kishi's ultimate jutsu plot tensei no jutsu. But he still is strong, but he's overated to me hes B rank ninja .
I was flaber gasted kishi made naruto died first ie blood prison movie. But sasuke gets 6 chances.
Sasuke has more chances at life than Sora with kingdom heart with second wind and second chance.
Lets get this straight as well before people say sasuke has trained with oro who by databook is a genjutsu master but by manga definition he has only D, because its all we seen from him. Heck databook says kakashi is a good genjutsu teacher but he hardly uses it like oro, so by databook being able to use D rank genjutsu makes u great genjutsu.
Kishi needs to make more genjutsu users imo.
Sasuke has a god complex thinking uchiha's are unbeatable and the best thing to walk this earth.
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He's fighting a weak orochimaru who was waiting for his medicine for kabuto in so much pain hes such a oppurtunist in a bad way strike ONE .
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In the reality sasuke has neva beat anyone legitly past time jump they all were either sick or dying or he needed help from his team he needed plot tensei no jutsu and countless revival but yet he still thinks hes some god. Itachi went solo and so did most of his predecessors to fight healthy nins. Sasuke hasn't defeated anyone really so why do we praise him for mediocrocy and retreats and being saved.
For those saying we knew he wouldnt have hawk summoning:*
Foreshadowing:
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Oro caught in a D rank genjutsu so how is he a master?
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Sasuke's first genjutsu tech used
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Only legit fight he won was against deidara, and that was because he had a element disadvantage, his genjutsu wasn't even effective on deidara with his cm2 chakra. Plus sasuke should of been dead at suicide explosion but kishi saved him. Strike two.
deidara breaking sasuke's 3 tomoe genjutsu
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Kishi thx for making up a jutsu for him out of thin air because he didnt learn this from oro cuz oro was in his death bed on pills most of*his time.
He continued on knowing if deidara was strong enough to break his genjutsu he knew itachi would be strong enough to easily break since hes a genjutsu master. Idk how people consider him equal with sasuke knowing that itachi didnt hit deidara with tsukyiomi and got him with genjutsu. Even though deidara trained his eye to see through genjutsu, it still wouldnt be strong enough to see through a uchiha with strong capabilities. He has a version of so6p eyes and genjutsu is a yin tech. Dealing with the creating of illusions and giving them form and making the user think they actually have been hit with the real tech.*
cm2 mode sasuke breaking itachi genjutsu
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If you think about it he would of never even of made it to A or danzo if it wasnt for karin. How many times did she save his life, not to mention his team. Sasuke really isn't that good he is a B RANK NINJA WITH S CLASS TECHS not saying he sucks, just saying hes over rated and not as good as people think he is. He's like the proverb a house with a loose foundation. He abandoned the basis of training and strengthening his nature ever since he got MS techs.
Sasuke could be strong if he didnt rely on his MS for everything. If it wasn't for tobi he'd be blind when he fought kakashi and tried to use MS his eyes were done he had no more light he was going blind. The story line would be over sasuke would of been captured but tobi's medical nin had him transplant his brothers eyes to give him an EMS.
Sasuke wasn't able to keep up with A it's why he had Susano on the whole time mostly, and that one dodge to A's raiton armour his taijutsu isn't that great, or he would of been able to move and dodge it. He has a cocky attitude and thinks he can beat anyone since he has MS techs Susano Ama, and tsukyiomi.
Sasuke can't adapt to genjutsu well so he is no way in the top 5 he can see it but thats it cant react. As seen with C and when he fought itachi, he really lost the genjutsu fight seeing as he thought he was in it the whole way.*
Danzo he didn't notice danzo was under genjutsu himself this kid is suppose to see chakra like deidara's nanobombs. He chidoried himself and hurt himself to defeat deidara. But i gotta give him credit on the space time ninjutsu he used to get out of it.. WHich idk what he used, im thinking something similar like when the toads want out of the fight they go poof like a shadow clone so manda got hit but if not idk, Oro didnt have a S/T ninjutsu and sasuke doesnt have kamui or MS at this point.
You must be registered for see linksevidence- Kishi's tech Plot Tensei no jutsu. Saving sasuke. He gets saved so much.
B lariated him and caved his chest in Suigetsu saved him from his final sting. He's not a tailed beast he needs to stop kidding himself thinking hes strong enough to take one on. Even B in cloak chakra mode was to much from him and if he hit him with tsukyi habichi would of tapped him out of it even in a real fight.
tobi saved sasuke from danzo's seal, Danzo put a hole in his susano with his summoning, Karin noticed danzo in genjutsu and was the ultimate reason why sasuke defeated danzo.You must be registered for see links. Not stronger than Danzo.
Sasuke about to be saved by tobi vs danzo*You must be registered for see links
His eyes are suppose to sense disturbances.
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Danzo breaking tsukyiomi:
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Non uchiha breaking tsukyiomi, but sasuke's genj is weak. Wouldn't of broken a good genjutsu users tsukyi.
Susanoo weak to wind style:
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Proof of its wind:
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Sasuke wouldn't of beat danzo if he could use shishui's eye its the ultimate in genjutsu tech's and best seeing through ability of uchiha clan. So fought a weakened danzo, i believe he used it during the kages meet.
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Karin to the aid like in everyone of his fights:
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Sasuke doesnt really have strength all on his own its his team.....
Sasuke's speed failing against a dying danzo and a healed sasuke: Also proving his eyes are useless lost light. The next time he used a MS tech was against kakashi and he couldnt use them anymore eh went blindish.
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Sasuke with genjutsu: As we seen before he failed with putting danzo and deidara under genjutsu, and B. Lets see the average the person, and his defense against it with C who is classified as a Sensor/medic ninja like karin who knows One Genjutsu tech so he could run away and take cover and blind the enemy while Darui and A do work
You see here Jugo noticing the genjutsu, before sasuke, and then the next page telling him what its trying to do. Sasuke does get hit with the genjutsu he tanks them he doesn't break them since itachi and proving it once again right here. at image #5
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He then just barks saying its genjutsu, if he could see through it he would of moved away, but he just tanked it we all know he can see chakra and disturbances but he couldnt see it. Showing he isnt good at breaking or seeing through genjutsu. Also he just says its genjutsu and by the time he realizes it A and darui are there to finish sasuke off, but through plot tensei no jutsu jugo and suigetus blindly block for him
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Then sasuke's cockyness thinking he's kage lvl he needs to learn even the best ninja's need help.
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Sasuke's susano genjutsu one of sasuke's best a MS level tech could be as good as tsukyi it could be tsukyi.
It's of the same caliber as well C genjutsu C can tell its genjutsu but has no deflection or evasion genjutsu techs so is forced to tank it. Proof it was a MS tech and not a regular genjutsu sasuke is holding his eye.
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Proof C is a med ninja as well not really a genj user mostly a support nin.
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Sasuke has the apt for genjutsu as tobi explains here he just needs to train it no excuses
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Sasuke has B rank Speed look at him in his head on assault against A and Darui.
He wasn't even that far and look how easily darui intercepted him. This is for the people who think sasuke can keep up with A or Darui.
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As you see sasuke's speed
A's speed dodges point blank blast from juugo and point blank ama
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Sasuke gets the blind spot on raikage but raikage easily dodges, without breaking a sweat and sasuke is already in swing when he dodges. He has no chance to defend himself for people who say sasuke has good taijutsu.
Sasuke jumped back and only took like 1-2 steps then ducked A's elbow and hit him with chidori. Ignore tobi's lie hatred wasnt the reason itachi got strong, its because he was a perfectionist and trained and tobi has been seen as a liar saying he was madara cant believe everything.
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Kishi tensei plot no jutsu
how does 3 tomoe sharingan keep up with raikage when MS sharingan cant keep up like really each tomoe is suppose to help u keep track of things moving faster easier and MS is more advanced than 3 tomoe cmon kishi
Back to what i was saying his chidori his best offensive tech vs raikage armour hardly left a dent. B rank tech vs B+ level defence and its still on.*
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Sasuke tai cant keep up with A's S rank Sasuke tai is prob a high C rank at best now.
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For those who say yah hes good he can enhance his swordmandry even the samurai can do it.
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A's speed is S rank dodges a point blank ama*
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His ulimate defense smashed through and sasuke was hurt left bleeding from the mouth afterwards he wasnt bleeding before.
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Proof Sasuke's Ama is a B rank Burn not S rank with A rank power. Ama isnt the end all say all gara's defense stopped it and it couldnt burn the sand.
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Gaara is a s class ninja now because he trained he has no jinchurikki either now.
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It's a B rank seal so its a B rank Burn
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Proof itachi could use enton for those doubting his ninjutsu:
Proof he could form ama just like sasuke
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Even if his susano is in his final form it would of been melted its weak to air type attacks as shown by danzo and acid is acid.
Zetsu restoring sasukes strength.GJ Zetsu sasuke getting help from more than 1 team shows his competency.
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Even with his susano he couldnt of tanked this
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Tobi saving him:
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Also without tobi sasuke wouldnt have power he'd be blind.
Sasuke is strong but to me hes a B rank ninja with s rank techs who doesnt know how to use them
This thread is made 04/30/12 and shouldnt be used as good evidence if sasuke has changed his ways after EMS.
Sasuke needs to stop acting tough he's strong but he isn't a kage or a beast sasuke plz just go home and train and stick to the basics plaza.
I wouldnt be surprised that after the war if tobi is alive and weak sasuke wont try to pull an oro, and kill him and take his rinnegan since he likes easy power ups.
And about his EMS he says it all
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He needs to be logical now and think:scorps:
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Sasuno Tsawaki
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for ur information,sasuke does not think he is a god.yes he does praise the uchiha but he never says anything about himself since he left naruto. about the saving,oh yeah naruto was never saved,was he?so what if people saved his life because naruto is a protagonist so his saving never matters,right?u just have something against sasuke.i should also remind u that the last time someone asked naruto whether he can defeat sasuke,he answer was'no, sasuke is more powerfull than me right now' which should be good enough for people like u who dare to call him b rank.
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Great post... The best part that you left you, is that he is only good when he 1v1's Naruto. Somehow he is able to keep up with him xD
The Paparunner
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You're so ignorant lol, Danzo wasn't Kage level, he wasn't even elected Kage by his peers, he was instated because he worked the system. And yes Naruto dies in the movie but is revived, get a life froob.
Biju Hunter
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Absolutely True
I agree with everything
Thumbs up for this guy here He really did a great job
Whatever you are saying you must prove it and as i see you get the point
Explained everything as well. Very nice 
I agree with everything
Thumbs up for this guy here He really did a great job
Whatever you are saying you must prove it and as i see you get the point
Explained everything as well. Very nice
MinaUchiha
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People didn't want him to be kage because no one liked him but that doesn't mean he isn't strong enough to be a kage.
SomeOddStudios
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In my opinion, Sasuke stands as a neutral character, even though he mostly is correlated with the negative side of the spectrum, he has always stricken me as someone who is troubled,I honestly believe that he is a B-rank ninja only because he dwells on his problems and tries to avenge the ones he has lost, in the ninja world people die everyday at any moment but that is something I think Sasuke refuses to cope with, and that is his only true weakness...like I said just an opinion.
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yeah Danzo is a boob, Kakashi was at a margin of becoming the kage until Danzo opened his trap.
First of all, are you 8 years old? Now before I say this, I'd like everybody to know Naruto is my favorite character, but if you think Sasuke had handouts, what about FTG? Or even the ****ing nine tails demon fox? those are two HUGE handouts don't you think? You're either 10 or younger, OR just a pissed off ******, Kishi is the one who determines who's strong and for what reasons in the manga not some little brat, he says Sasuke's strong, and he is, oh and by the way, the naruto movies have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the manga, or even the anime. Yeah you're and idiot dude, Sasuke's attitude really bug's me but I'm not gonna be some ***** little fanboy about it just because I don't like him.
This is so laughable in its own direction. You lost once you accused him of being a 8 year, because you failed to realize a 8 year couldnt make this post.
The thread is about Sasuke and what he has, so again you missed the point.
When a story is written, there will always be critic's on the characters and this one breaking down Sasuke character in general. But I guess you didnt see that.
At last when we have you spamming hows he a idiotic, but somehow this thread has support. Did you even read some of the comments, theres love and hate here but mostly good job or people failing to give claims why Sasuke is strong just like you are here.
You pretty much just dont get the thread.
