Who is the most Intelligent, Knowledgable, Smartest in MAnga?

[Bronze]

i agree with this thread

Smart: Madara was smart enough to fool the god of shinobi + fairytale + ultimate shinobi. He can identify any form of jutsu and counter instant. he uses this against the gokage. he is defiantly greater than anyone when analyzing opponents abilities and counters them right away.

Intelligence: Madara is scientist and doctor. He created mindless clone of Hashirama. White zetsu and other spiral. He healed his wounds despite stabbed in the heart which kills instantly. He used Gedo Mazo to cultivate Hashirama's cells and power it up. He healed Obito's wounds which are impossible to heal even by tsunade and orochimaru yet it was possible for Madara.

Knowledge: Madara knows all history. SO6P story. Juubi story. Chakra story. everything and anything.

He manipulated the greatest manipulater (Obito).

Madara is number 1 in all of them going by manga facts and pure logic.

 

[HBKJames]

the problem with you ppl, is that you use the most irrelvent examples

in order to prove your point.

read above.

How can you be knowledgable w/o the intellgents to maintain the knowledge?

but once again im not going to aruge about that, as this thread isnt titled

"what is your defination of knowledge and intellgents

A person can have a high IQ yet not know all more facts or truths than someone else. For example, Shikamaru & Kakashi have 2 of the highest recorded IQs in the mange yet because they were lied to by the village they know jack about it's dirty history. Sasuke who's not quite as intelligent as Shika know more about the truth about the history of the Leaf Village and what really happened to the Uchiha than both Shika & Kakashi

another way to put it, having more knowledge just means you're more informed than most but doesn't make you the smartest; even though that person could be pretty smart themselves

 

[-Punk-]

Knowledgable
1/Madara
2/Kabuto
3/Itachi
4/Oro
5/Danzo

Intelligent :
1/Kabuto
2/Oro
3/Minato
4/Shikaku
5/Itachi

Obito is not on the list cause MAdara passed him his knowledge , so that's BS .

 

[HBKJames]

Most intelligent: Itachi, Minato, Tobirama, Kakashi, Kabuto, Orochimaru, Shikamaru

Most Knowledgeable: Madara, Obito, Itachi, Tobirama, and Orochimaru

Smartest: Itachi, Minato, Kabuto, Tobirama, Orochimaru, Shika, Kakashi, Sasuke, Madara, Obito, Hashirama

 

[Bronze]

Knowledge contribute to intelligence and smartness.

Madara being knowledgeable in not only history but as well as all techniques in the shinobi world as well as science makes him the smartest character and most intelligent one.

 

[Trollasaur]

1.Shikamaru
2.Shiaku
3.Obito
4.Minato
5.Itachi
6.Madara

Knowledge contributes to intellegince overall

Deal with it

 

[HBKJames]

Knowledge contribute to intelligence and smartness.

Madara being knowledgeable in not only history but as well as all techniques in the shinobi world as well as science makes him the smartest character and most intelligent one.

You're still a little off....thouugh they are clearly related, they are different. Knowledge is about how much you know – about the accumulation of individual facts. Intelligence is about how much you can know – about your capacity to acquire and store new facts

Having gained more knowledge by reflecting back what was already learned & recorded by others doesn't increase your capacity to acquire new facts, analyze and best decipher that new information

You dont need intelligence to reflect or express information already gathered and analysed by others, available to you in books and on the internet. You can be said to be a person of knowledge if you do this. But that doesnt mean you are intelligent, unless you do your own analysis and reflection

Madara by far has the most knowledge than anyone thanks to being able to have decipher a tablet only he could read and living for multiple generations to decipher it all....but there are more ppl with higher intelligence that given the same resources, such as Itachi, could have analyzed and gained more info in a shorter amount of time

 

[Nature Sage]

mostly children are worried about winning.

i called you that because you act like one.

placeing your opionion over everything

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That quote though... didn't you just do the same thing?

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i agree but disagree with minato

he should be replaced by obito who basically learned all of what madara did....untill proven otherwise

Let's take a look at a reference:

Spoiler

“The distinction between knowledge and intelligence is frequently blurred. For example, most people are familiar with the popular television show Jeopardy!, on which contestants are rewarded for the amount of knowledge they possess of a wide variety of topics. Often the winners are referred to as “exceptionally smart.” But the truth is that they are exceptionally knowledgeable. Successful Jeopardy! contestants haven’t really proven anything about their intelligence…[Joseph ***an, chair of psychology at Case Western] has done research focusing on racial differences in test scores, and his experiments found that measures that required certain kinds of academic knowledge, such as vocabulary or complex math, yielded significantly different scores between racial groups. But tests focused on reasoning or processing skills, such as picture and spatial pattern recognition, showed no such differences.”

-Justin Menke

OP: (This is in no order)
Intelligence (quick to comprehend): Shikaku/Shikamaru/Itachi/Minato/Tobirama
Knowledgeable(understanding/insight): Madara/Obito/Orochimaru/Tobirama
Smartest (Being Shrewd): Madara/Minato/Itachi/Tobirama/Obito/Shikamaru

 

[ShiningStar]

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That quote though... didn't you just do the same thing?

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Let's take a look at a reference:

Spoiler

“The distinction between knowledge and intelligence is frequently blurred. For example, most people are familiar with the popular television show Jeopardy!, on which contestants are rewarded for the amount of knowledge they possess of a wide variety of topics. Often the winners are referred to as “exceptionally smart.” But the truth is that they are exceptionally knowledgeable. Successful Jeopardy! contestants haven’t really proven anything about their intelligence…[Joseph ***an, chair of psychology at Case Western] has done research focusing on racial differences in test scores, and his experiments found that measures that required certain kinds of academic knowledge, such as vocabulary or complex math, yielded significantly different scores between racial groups. But tests focused on reasoning or processing skills, such as picture and spatial pattern recognition, showed no such differences.”

-Justin Menke

OP:
Intelligence (quick to comprehend): Shikaku/Shikamaru/Itachi/Minato
Knowledgeable(understanding/insight): Madara/Obito/Orochimaru
Smartest (Being Shrewd): Madara/Minato/Itachi/Obito/Shikamaru

Leave her be. We already covered this with her. She gets it.

 

[Tobby17]

Tobirama has shown to be knowledgable : Immediately knowing what Onmyoudon was, and how it works

Tobirama has shown to be intellgent/genius inventor etc : Created FTG, Created Edo Tensei, Created Shadow Clone.. created Konoha bla bla bla (I know Hashi found Konoha, but you get what I''m trying to say)

Tobirama has shown to be battle smart as well : Knowing to use Hiarishin Mawashi on Obito, also instantly figuring out Obito's weakness and incoperated it with Hiraishin through Naruto (I think this counts as intelligence as well).

So I'll say Tobirama is well rounded, however you also have geniuses like

Minato: figuring out Obito's Kamui and how it works, and showing battle smart by figuring out how to counter it

Orochimaru and Kabuto: both are knowledgable and pretty much researchers and what not

Yeah Madara knows a few things and is probably good at thinking ahead, but I won't say he's the smartest :erm:

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

One can be knowledgable but still a fool. Knowledge + wisdom = intelligence.
There are many different ways to gauge intelligence.
Overall, Itachi or Jiraiya
In science and knowledge, Orochimaru and Kabuto
In tactics, Shikaku or Shikamaru
In wisdom, Danzō or Hiruzen.

 

[HBKJames]

One can be knowledgable but still a fool. Knowledge + wisdom = intelligence.
There are many different ways to gauge intelligence.
Overall, Itachi or Jiraiya
In science and knowledge, Orochimaru and Kabuto
In tactics, Shikaku or Shikamaru
In wisdom, Danzō or Hiruzen.

I would have thrown Itachi, Minato & Tobirama in their for tactics as well, but I otherwise couldn't agree more

 

[Bronze]

You're still a little off....thouugh they are clearly related, they are different. Knowledge is about how much you know – about the accumulation of individual facts. Intelligence is about how much you can know – about your capacity to acquire and store new facts

Having gained more knowledge by reflecting back what was already learned & recorded by others doesn't increase your capacity to acquire new facts, analyze and best decipher that new information

You dont need intelligence to reflect or express information already gathered and analysed by others, available to you in books and on the internet. You can be said to be a person of knowledge if you do this. But that doesnt mean you are intelligent, unless you do your own analysis and reflection

Madara by far has the most knowledge than anyone thanks to being able to have decipher a tablet only he could read and living for multiple generations to decipher it all....but there are more ppl with higher intelligence that given the same resources, such as Itachi, could have analyzed and gained more info in a shorter amount of time

that doesn't make any sense. Madara gaining such knowledge means he was intelligent enough to have the most knowledge of everything.

i have already given the reasons of Madara used his knowledge for:

Madara'a intelligence:
-creating mindless Hashirama
-created the zetsu army
-fooled Hashirama
-created the eye moon plan
-used gedo mazo as life source
-cultivated Hashirama's cells
-manipulated Obito who is the greatest manipulator in history

Madara's Smart and tactics:
-created tactics to equally fight against the senju
-plans to fight against overwhelming power like Hashirama's buddah and succeed in destroying it
-destroyed the alliance HQ
-tactics to how to fight against the juubi
-analyzed the gokage techniques and countered them successfully without trying
-100+ experience in battles
-knew all of the clan techniques as seen through the juubi vs alliance
-still has a trump card against Juuobito

Madara's Knowledge:
-Discovered the history of SO6P
-Knows all of the juubi powers and 9 bijuu
-The Universe creation and chakra
-knows all most every jutsu in the manga and has counter for it

these are not knowledge. these are intelligence and smartness feats Madara has gained from his knowledge and experience.

 

[Supreme Hokage]

SMD, you lack "inteligents" to be making this thread and to be ranking the smartest ninjas.
If you can't even distinguish the difference between a well informed person and a wise person, then your judgment can't be taken seriously.

 

[HBKJames]

that doesn't make any sense. Madara gaining such knowledge means he was intelligent enough to have the most knowledge of everything. .

No offense but if you couldn't understand what I said you don't have the intelligence to have an inteligent conversation about what intelligence is. btw, you're butchering the english language with all the syntax errors in that last sentence.....being able to read and regurgitate that information back is not indicative of intelligence. it just means you know how to read, comprehend and recall

i have already given the reasons of Madara used his knowledge for:

Madara'a intelligence:
-creating mindless Hashirama

So, Orochimaru created a perfect clone of Hashirama

-created the zetsu army

And Kabuto created an army of the most powerful warriors

-fooled Hashirama

when? and actually Hashirama fooled Madara in their battle of the Valley of the End with his Wood clone, fooling Madara into thinking he had won

-created the eye moon plan

And Itachi mapped out exactly how his battle with Sasuke would go years before it happened

-used gedo mazo as life source

So did Nagato

-cultivated Hashirama's cells

So did both Oro & Kabuto generations later

-manipulated Obito who is the greatest manipulator in history

I would say Itachi is more of a manipulator than Obito. Itachi manipulated his whole clan, Sasuke and Obito. Obito wasn't een able to make a move until Itachi had died

Madara's Smart and tactics:
-created tactics to equally fight against the senju [/QUOTES] still got his butt kicked, despite having the sharingan & MS & EMS which that alone should have given him the advantage with all the godly powers it grants like being able to predict moves, track even the fastest of object, cast genjutsu, hypnosis, Susanoo

-plans to fight against overwhelming power like Hashirama's buddah and succeed in destroying it [/QUOTE/ still lost every battle against Hashirama

-destroyed the alliance HQ

that has noting to do with intelligence and everything to do with power

-tactics to how to fight against the juubi

Hashirama could have devised a way had Madara not stopped him, keeping him out of the way

-analyzed the gokage techniques and countered them successfully without trying

Minato has done that all his life

-100+ experience in battles

Third Hokage has even more battle experience than that

-knew all of the clan techniques as seen through the juubi vs alliance

he knew just of some of their techniques,but not all of them such as Tsunade's Byakugou

-still has a trump card against Juuobito

& Shino Aburame has 2 trump cards in his fights

Madara's Knowledge:
-Discovered the history of SO6P
-Knows all of the juubi powers and 9 bijuu
-The Universe creation and chakra

Helps when you're the only one who could decipher the whole tablet

these are not knowledge. these are intelligence and smartness feats Madara has gained from his knowledge and experience.

these are the perfect combination of knowledge gained largely if not entirely from his eye justsu not his mind

 

[Trollasaur]

No offense but if you couldn't understand what I said you don't have the intelligence to have an inteligent conversation about what intelligence is. btw, you're butchering the english language with all the syntax errors in that last sentence.....being able to read and regurgitate that information back is not indicative of intelligence. it just means you know how to read, comprehend and recall

So, Orochimaru created a perfect clone of Hashirama
And Kabuto created an army of the most powerful warriors
when? and actually Hashirama fooled Madara in their battle of the Valley of the End with his Wood clone, fooling Madara into thinking he had won
And Itachi mapped out exactly how his battle with Sasuke would go years before it happened
So did Nagato
So did both Oro & Kabuto generations later
I would say Itachi is more of a manipulator than Obito. Itachi manipulated his whole clan, Sasuke and Obito. Obito wasn't een able to make a move until Itachi had died

Madara's Smart and tactics:
-created tactics to equally fight against the senju [/QUOTES] still got his butt kicked, despite having the sharingan & MS & EMS which that alone should have given him the advantage with all the godly powers it grants like being able to predict moves, track even the fastest of object, cast genjutsu, hypnosis, Susanoo

-plans to fight against overwhelming power like Hashirama's buddah and succeed in destroying it [/QUOTE/ still lost every battle against Hashirama
that has noting to do with intelligence and everything to do with power
Hashirama could have devised a way had Madara not stopped him, keeping him out of the way
Minato has done that all his life
Third Hokage has even more battle experience than that
he knew just of some of their techniques,but not all of them such as Tsunade's Byakugou
& Shino Aburame has 2 trump cards in his fights

Helps when you're the only one who could decipher the whole tablet

these are the perfect combination of knowledge gained largely if not entirely from his eye justsu not his mind

****ING LOL'D and stopped reading

@Itachi is a better mainipulator than Obito

 

[Bronze]

No offense but if you couldn't understand what I said you don't have the intelligence to have an inteligent conversation about what intelligence is. btw, you're butchering the english language with all the syntax errors in that last sentence.....being able to read and regurgitate that information back is not indicative of intelligence. it just means you know how to read, comprehend and recall

So, Orochimaru created a perfect clone of Hashirama
And Kabuto created an army of the most powerful warriors
when? and actually Hashirama fooled Madara in their battle of the Valley of the End with his Wood clone, fooling Madara into thinking he had won
And Itachi mapped out exactly how his battle with Sasuke would go years before it happened
So did Nagato
So did both Oro & Kabuto generations later
I would say Itachi is more of a manipulator than Obito. Itachi manipulated his whole clan, Sasuke and Obito. Obito wasn't een able to make a move until Itachi had died

Madara's Smart and tactics:
-created tactics to equally fight against the senju [/QUOTES] still got his butt kicked, despite having the sharingan & MS & EMS which that alone should have given him the advantage with all the godly powers it grants like being able to predict moves, track even the fastest of object, cast genjutsu, hypnosis, Susanoo


****ING LOL'D and stopped reading

@Itachi is a better mainipulator than Obito

definition of bias.

Obito made Itachi believe he was Madara. so much for the solo king.

 

[SandBurial]

Itachi, no brainer.

 

[USSJ307]

surely either hagaromo (thats his name guys use it) or kurama being that they are the two oldest and thus wisest beings

 

[Gokillerz]

Battle genius-Kakashi
knowledgeable-Madara/Orochimaru
Smartest(superior IQ)-Shikaku/Shikamaru

i have to agree with this answer,