[Discussion] Who is stronger?

[Punk Hazard]

So law's moving is faster than enels lightning XD
You make me laugh.
Law could teleport Him out of the way before DD could do it.

Enel's CoO is one of the best in this series and he couldn't dodge that? I call bs riker. I was hoping you would pull out that weak ass scan.

Yes, it is. Conis was able to run to her dad and push him out of the way before he was struck with El Thor, IIRC.

Weak scan? It disproved the entire second half of your argument, Overheat has a range of many kilometers/second. It moves faster than the same Luffy Enel couldn't dodge, Enel isn't dodging that shit, even with his Haki[

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]. He doesn't know about Doflamingo's weakness, so he isn't going after the clouds.

This debate is over, you've lost, almost as miserably as Enel would to Joker.

 

[Tomato God]

Yes, it is. Conis was able to run to her dad and push him out of the way before he was struck with El Thor, IIRC.

Weak scan? It disproved the entire second half of your argument, Overheat has a range of many kilometers/second. It moves faster than the same Luffy Enel couldn't dodge, Enel isn't dodging that shit. He doesn't know about Doflamingo's weakness, so he isn't going after the clouds.

This debate is over, you've lost, almost as miserably as Enel would to Joker.

Its over when you give up and admit that I am right. Enel literally could just wipe the island under dd off the map. And El Thor isn't his only attack.
And he could very easily (With his godly level haki) Figure out that DD is going after the clouds.
and ONE Advent of thunder is more than enough to end the fight. It doesn have to be island busting. Just the small one he did first. Then hide in the Advent of thunder outside of DD's reach and make it so big it engulfs everything.
GG

 

[Punk Hazard]

Its over when you give up and admit that I am right. Enel literally could just wipe the island under dd off the map. And El Thor isn't his only attack.
And he could very easily (With his godly level haki) Figure out that DD is going after the clouds.
and ONE Advent of thunder is more than enough to end the fight. It doesn have to be island busting. Just the small one he did first. Then hide in the Advent of thunder outside of DD's reach and make it so big it engulfs everything.
GG

Enel lacked the speed to dodge Luffy's punch here. He wanted to move, but lacked the speed too, and ended up panicking.

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While he's forming the Advent of Thunder, Doflamingo could just fly up to the ship and use his superior speed with Overheat to kill Enel.

It's over because every and all arguments you've brought for Enel's side has been disproved. Raigou isn't an instant hit, it has a charge time, perfect for Doflamingo to intercept Enel with his superior speed. Not only that, but Doflamingo is an extremely smart man, if he sees the ship producing an attack and Enel infusing his powers with it, he'd just damage the ship as well, preventing the attack from being used again and sending Enel crashing into the sea.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Doffy
Law>=luffy
Jinbei (has obviously gotten stronger since him and ace fought also had enough time to improve during timeskip while ace has not)
Kidd (kidd is only up here because of his hype to be luffyxlaw equal and the fact that he would logically own zoro also the fact that he has been going out of his way to **** with big mam
Ace
Crocodile
Zoro (has haki to beat ace idk bout croco (he may have haki) but both can keep him at bay and make the fight long distance)
Smoker
Sanji >= enel
Killer
Barto
franky

note smoker sanji enel are weird
i feel like sanji has what it takes (enough speed and power) to beat enel
but idk if he can beat smoker yet
i feel smoker can beat sanji really high diff
and enel has enough speed to keep smoker away from him and attack him from long distance

 

[Tomato God]

Enel lacked the speed to dodge Luffy's punch here. He wanted to move, but lacked the speed too, and ended up panicking.

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Still recovering from the blows that he gotten earlier. Its not a speed thing its a recovery and endurance thing. If I trip you and kick you as you are falling it doesn't mean you are two slow to dodge my kick it means I tripped you first

While he's forming the Advent of Thunder, Doflamingo could just fly up to the ship and use his superior speed with Overheat to kill Enel.

It's over because every and all arguments you've brought for Enel's side has been disproved. Raigou isn't an instant hit, it has a charge time, perfect for Doflamingo to intercept Enel with his superior speed. Not only that, but Doflamingo is an extremely smart man, if he sees the ship producing an attack and Enel infusing his powers with it, he'd just damage the ship as well, preventing the attack from being used again and sending Enel crashing into the sea.

He can spam lighting while forming it.

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and even if he couldn't that looks fast as all hell.
it took him half a conversation to make this small one

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[Punk Hazard]

Still recovering from the blows that he gotten earlier. Its not a speed thing its a recovery and endurance thing. If I trip you and kick you as you are falling it doesn't mean you are two slow to dodge my kick it means I tripped you first


He can spam lighting while forming it.

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and even if he couldn't that looks fast as all hell.
it took him half a conversation to make this small one

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Enel can't control where those bolts fall, they just fall randomly, Doflamingo faces no threat from them.

And in those few seconds they form, Overheat takes his head off. Enel kills a clone, while Doflamingo has really flown above the clouds, and sends an Overheat at Enel, who doesn't predict it because he thinks he's already killed Doflamingo.

 

[Tomato God]

Enel can't control where those bolts fall, they just fall randomly, Doflamingo faces no threat from them.

And in those few seconds they form, Overheat takes his head off. Enel kills a clone, while Doflamingo has really flown above the clouds, and sends an Overheat at Enel, who doesn't predict it because he thinks he's already killed Doflamingo.

Except when he pointed at the bean stalk and it obeyed him

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Seriously Riker your arguments are getting weaker and weaker.

and thats not how haki works. You don't have to know someone is there to think sense them. He sensed The number of fighters still fighting without being able to know where they were. If anything his haki is so good he could know clones from the real thing. Like hear the heart beat or what not.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Except when he pointed at the bean stalk and it obeyed him

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Seriously Riker your arguments are getting weaker and weaker.

and thats not how haki works. You don't have to know someone is there to think sense them. He sensed The number of fighters still fighting without being able to know where they were. If anything his haki is so good he could know clones from the real thing. Like hear the heart beat or what not.

He was unable to tell Luffy was inside the giant snake. His Haki isn't absolute and wavers.

 

[Tomato God]

He was unable to tell Luffy was inside the giant snake. His Haki isn't absolute and wavers.

So DD better get inside a giant snake or he is gonna get judged by god

 

[Punk Hazard]

So DD better get inside a giant snake or he is gonna get judged by god

He can pull a Sanji.
Enel sensed both Usopp and Sanji climb on board.
But was unable to tell Sanji went inside and started ****ing his shit up.
Doflamingo creates a clone, they get on board, do the same thing, Enel loses sense of Doffy inside, surprise attack as is Doffy's specialty, kills Enel.

 

[Tomato God]

He can pull a Sanji.
Enel sensed both Usopp and Sanji climb on board.
But was unable to tell Sanji went inside and started ****ing his shit up.
Doflamingo creates a clone, they get on board, do the same thing, Enel loses sense of Doffy inside, surprise attack as is Doffy's specialty, kills Enel.

DD is a bish. This is a straight up fight. No punches pulled.
Face it riker. You lost.

 

[Punk Hazard]

DD is a bish. This is a straight up fight. No punches pulled.
Face it riker. You lost.

Nope, I've countered your every argument.
Doffy is faster
Better fighter
Smarter
Physically stronger

Enel loses 10/10 times.

 

[Tomato God]

Nope, I've countered your every argument.
Doffy is faster
Better fighter
Smarter
Physically stronger

Enel loses 10/10 times.

Nope. Enel has a too big power gap to surrmount unless you are immune.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nope. Enel has a too big power gap to surrmount unless you are immune.

Of physical destruction, yes, but Doflamingo's superior speed, combat ability, intelligence, and Armament Haki results in Enel dead before he can do any of that. Overheat spanned many kilometers in two seconds, Enel can't dodge that.

 

[Tomato God]

Of physical destruction, yes, but Doflamingo's superior speed, combat ability, intelligence, and Armament Haki results in Enel dead before he can do any of that. Overheat spanned many kilometers in two seconds, Enel can't dodge that.

But the gap is still to big. Enels Advent takes seconds and He can protect himself with lightning storms. Plus he can easily dodge it. Law had time to teleport away. Enel went from island end to island end during his game in seconds.

 

[Punk Hazard]

But the gap is still to big. Enels Advent takes seconds and He can protect himself with lightning storms. Plus he can easily dodge it. Law had time to teleport away. Enel went from island end to island end during his game in seconds.

No it's not. Enel took several many minutes to transverse his island, while Doflamingo's Overheat accomplished comparable distance in 2 seconds.

Enel is too fast? He couldn't dodge Luffy. If he was too fast, he would have never have gotten by hit Luffy in the first place.
Luffy's pre-Gear, pre-skip hits was enough, as you claimed, to rattle Enel so much that his speed dropped.

A Haki laced, Gear 2 punch from Luffy, while Doflamingo's guard was done, did insignificant injuries. Doflamingo's clone is merking a version of Luffy exponentially stronger than the version that outclassed Enel.

It's a shame you have to lie about this thread in your signature, I've countered you enough times for one night, so this will be my last post consisting of proving you wrong for now.

 

[Tomato God]

No it's not. Enel took several many minutes to transverse his island, while Doflamingo's Overheat accomplished comparable distance in 2 seconds.

Enel is too fast? He couldn't dodge Luffy. If he was too fast, he would have never have gotten by hit Luffy in the first place.
Luffy's pre-Gear, pre-skip hits was enough, as you claimed, to rattle Enel so much that his speed dropped.

A Haki laced, Gear 2 punch from Luffy, while Doflamingo's guard was done, did insignificant injuries. Doflamingo's clone is merking a version of Luffy exponentially stronger than the version that outclassed Enel.

It's a shame you have to lie about this thread in your signature, I've countered you enough times for one night, so this will be my last post consisting of proving you wrong for now.

@Bold Agreed. Enel slowed down because luffy man handled him and He ya know died once already that day (after he restarted his own heart claiming his spot as an immortal) But he doesn't have to worry about his lack of endurance. DD the fodder couldn't touch him.

 

[Punk Hazard]

@Bold Agreed. Enel slowed down because luffy man handled him and He ya know died once already that day (after he restarted his own heart claiming his spot as an immortal) But he doesn't have to worry about his lack of endurance. DD the fodder couldn't touch him.

Going back to the night you showed your stupidity I see.

Enel will most likely let Doffy's attack hit him because of his overconfidence and expectation that it'll pass through him, but the Haki laced into it will one-shot him. Game over.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

@Bold Agreed. Enel slowed down because luffy man handled him and He ya know died once already that day (after he restarted his own heart claiming his spot as an immortal) But he doesn't have to worry about his lack of endurance. DD the fodder couldn't touch him.

Get rid of your ugly sig and replace it with the old one, Riker soloed you again.

 

[Tomato God]

Get rid of your ugly sig and replace it with the old one, Riker soloed you again.

Hey macho. Don't be like uchiha macho and shut the heck up.