[Discussion] Who is stronger?

[Punk Hazard]

Wiki says this about radio knife: A surgical instrument that uses a high-frequency electric arc to cut through or cut away tissue and at the same time sterilize the edges of the wound and seal cut blood vessels.

I don't know if it's the same in One Piece but I guess Oda has it based on something real.
Here is more but I don't really understand it to well. It looks scary

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Crocodile has an attack called "Desert Sunflower." Does he produce actual sunflowers?
Sakazuki has an attack called "Dark Dog." Does he make actual dogs?
Does Luffy have actual pistols, gatlings and bullets?
Did Kaku become an actual machine that makes pasta?
Does Robin make actual flowers?

It could just be named Radio Knife because its effect resembles electricity and follows into the surgery theme of Law's fruit, the same way that Law's Mes attack isn't an actual scalpel and Injection Shot isn't an actual injection/shot with a needle.

 

[silmarill]

Crocodile has an attack called "Desert Sunflower." Does he produce actual sunflowers?
Sakazuki has an attack called "Dark Dog." Does he make actual dogs?
Does Luffy have actual pistols, gatlings and bullets?
Did Kaku become an actual machine that makes pasta?
Does Robin make actual flowers?

It could just be named Radio Knife because its effect resembles electricity and follows into the surgery theme of Law's fruit, the same way that Law's Mes attack isn't an actual scalpel and Injection Shot isn't an actual injection/shot with a needle.

Oh I had not thought about it like that. I guess your right , sorry.-.

 

[VongolaX]

I want you to rank them in order of strongest to weakest.

Doflamingo
Luffy
Zoro
Law
Sanji
Smoker
Kidd
Bartolomeo
Jinbei
Killer (kidd's nakama)
Franky
Ace
Enel
Crocodile

1. Luffy (only because he is the main character)/Kidd (strong feeling that he is up there)
2. Crocodile/Doflamingo
3. Zoro/Law (can't tell between the two)
4. Jinbei/Ace (if he didn't have a stalemate with Ace he should be placed higher)
5. Killer
6. Smoker
7. Sanji
8. Smoker
9. Enel (maybe, Franky can still take him out with those lasers)
10. Franky
11. Bartolomeo

 

[Killua Zoldyck]

1. Doflamingo

------Big Gap------

2. Luffy
3. Law
4. Kidd (Portrayel as being equal to the two above)
5. Crocodile (Severaly Underestimated around here)
6. Jinbei/Ace
7. Zoro
8. Smoker
9. Sanji
10. Enel
11. Bartolomeo
12. Killer
13. Franky

 

[Tomato God]

enel destroys islands

 

[Punk Hazard]

enel destroys islands

With his ship, which Skypeia Sanji was capable of damaging. Any decent combatant now can damage his ship until it no longer functions and he loses that power.

 

[Tomato God]

With his ship, which Skypeia Sanji was capable of damaging. Any decent combatant now can damage his ship until it no longer functions and he loses that power.

No. He destroyed his home island before maxum was built.
Previous statement still stands
Enel destroys mother hugging islands.

 

[Punk Hazard]

That's because Skypeai is full of fodder with no Busoshoku. Any of the people on that list could destroy an island full of fodder by rampaging. When Enel can destroy islands of abled fighters with a few attacks, then it'll be worth something.

 

[Tomato God]

That's because Skypeai is full of fodder with no Busoshoku. Any of the people on that list could destroy an island full of fodder by rampaging. When Enel can destroy islands of abled fighters with a few attacks, then it'll be worth something.

DD given no opposition and 100 years couldn't make an island disappear. He has no feats to say otherwise.

And when I say disappear I don't mean destroy I mean disappear because you could only get Jet dials from Enels home and Dials are just crab shells that end up on the shore. So even if you burn it to the ground the shells still show up. Its gone. Even the dirt.
DD couldn't do that.

Enels bounty if he lived on the ground would have been 500 million. The only person on that list who could handle enel is luffy.

 

[Punk Hazard]

DD given no opposition and 100 years couldn't make an island disappear. He has no feats to say otherwise.

And when I say disappear I don't mean destroy I mean disappear because you could only get Jet dials from Enels home and Dials are just crab shells that end up on the shore. So even if you burn it to the ground the shells still show up. Its gone. Even the dirt.
DD couldn't do that.

Enels bounty if he lived on the ground would have been 500 million. The only person on that list who could handle enel is luffy.

Bounty doesn't equal strength.

And what? That has nothing to do with Enel's strength, but the nature of his fruit. Oda himself has stated that TONS of guys on the Blue Sea would pummel Enel, Doflamingo would slaughter Enel.

 

[Tomato God]

Bounty doesn't equal strength.

And what? That has nothing to do with Enel's strength, but the nature of his fruit. Oda himself has stated that TONS of guys on the Blue Sea would pummel Enel, Doflamingo would slaughter Enel.

Yea tons of people would butcher him. Just none on this list. (Bar and hold luffy) Everyone here couldn't hang if he turned into that 100million volt dragon. Or stop an advent of thunder (if he has his maxim).
DD would just watch helplessly as advent of thunder ripped his fleet to shreds then take god's judgement to the heart.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yea tons of people would butcher him. Just none on this list. (Bar and hold luffy) Everyone here couldn't hang if he turned into that 100million volt dragon. Or stop an advent of thunder (if he has his maxim).
DD would just watch helplessly as advent of thunder ripped his fleet to shreds then take god's judgement to the heart.

LOL **** no boy. Pre-gear Luffy, according to Enel himself, was fast.

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Doflamingo is outpacing CURRENT Gear 2 Luffy, who Enel wasn't fast enough to dodge.

Luffy's hits back then could damage Enel greatly. Current Doffy FAR exceeds that strength.

Even with Enel's immensely powerful DF, Luffy outpaced him in every combat category aside strategy and intelligence.

Doflamingo speed blitzes Enel and lops his head off or one-hit KOs him with a Haki kick. Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Tomato God]

LOL **** no boy. Pre-gear Luffy, according to Enel himself, was fast.

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Doflamingo is outpacing CURRENT Gear 2 Luffy, who Enel wasn't fast enough to dodge.

Luffy's hits back then could damage Enel greatly. Current Doffy FAR exceeds that strength.

Even with Enel's immensely powerful DF, Luffy outpaced him in every combat category aside strategy and intelligence.

Doflamingo speed blitzes Enel and lops his head off or one-hit KOs him with a Haki kick. Don't be ridiculous.

Aside from that one panel after luffy had gotten inside enels head (You know the thing that messes up mantra) Enel had man handled luffy. And if he wouldn't have dropped luffy, saying **** it lets let gravity decide this, and cut his head off the series would be over right now.

People underestimate him so much.

If luffy hadn't gotten inside his head he could have easily dodged as always.
Enels Observation haki is so good he would know better than to go down and fight doffy and just blast him out of the sky from a distance with enels judgment.

 

[Red Swag]

mingo
law
luffy
zoro
jimbei
ace
kidd
sanji
croc
smoker

 

[Punk Hazard]

Aside from that one panel after luffy had gotten inside enels head (You know the thing that messes up mantra) Enel had man handled luffy. And if he wouldn't have dropped luffy, saying **** it lets let gravity decide this, and cut his head off the series would be over right now.

People underestimate him so much.

If luffy hadn't gotten inside his head he could have easily dodged as always.
Enels Observation haki is so good he would know better than to go down and fight doffy and just blast him out of the sky from a distance with enels judgment.

Old-ass fodder Gan Fall took El Thor, and survived. Doflamingo would shrug that shit off.

Enel was able to tell the punch was coming, but lacked the speed. Even if he had Observation Haki, it means nothing if his body can't keep up, and Luffy was able to outspeed Enel prior to that.

Luffy got into Enel's head because he was able to hit Enel and avoid being damaged by his attacks. Doflamingo, with greater speed, can dodge around Enel's attacks, and using Haki, hit him with long-ranged string attacks or Full Bright. Overheat went from Green Bit all the way into Dressrosa in a manner of seconds, crossing four feet as Doflamingo blitz behind Enel is gonna happen in no time, way too fast for Enel to react and dodge.

Not only that, but Enel is overconfident in his DF. He'll probably expect Luffy's attack to hit him, and the Haki laced attack will one hit KO him, or cut off his head, or cleave off his head. Full Bright infused with Haki to the face? Dead Enel. Overheat to the waist? Bifurcated Enel. Five Colored String to the chest? Enel's heart is torn apart.

Doflamingo defeats Enel 10/10 times.

 

[Tomato God]

Old-ass fodder Gan Fall took El Thor, and survived. Doflamingo would shrug that shit off.

Enel was able to tell the punch was coming, but lacked the speed. Even if he had Observation Haki, it means nothing if his body can't keep up, and Luffy was able to outspeed Enel prior to that.

Luffy got into Enel's head because he was able to hit Enel and avoid being damaged by his attacks. Doflamingo, with greater speed, can dodge around Enel's attacks, and using Haki, hit him with long-ranged string attacks or Full Bright. Overheat went from Green Bit all the way into Dressrosa in a manner of seconds, crossing four feet as Doflamingo blitz behind Enel is gonna happen in no time, way too fast for Enel to react and dodge.

Not only that, but Enel is overconfident in his DF. He'll probably expect Luffy's attack to hit him, and the Haki laced attack will one hit KO him, or cut off his head, or cleave off his head. Full Bright infused with Haki to the face? Dead Enel. Overheat to the waist? Bifurcated Enel. Five Colored String to the chest? Enel's heart is torn apart.

Doflamingo defeats Enel 10/10 times.

One of the joy's of observation haki is knowing who or whom you can and cannot beat in a fight. Enel can how ever just blow fly up and then destroy all the clouds so he falls into the ocean and dies.

 

[Punk Hazard]

One of the joy's of observation haki is knowing who or whom you can and cannot beat in a fight. Enel can how ever just blow fly up and then destroy all the clouds so he falls into the ocean and dies.

Enel doesn't know Doflamingo's weakness is blowing away the clouds. Observation Haki won't tell him that, so he won't blow away the clouds.

A simple Overheat from the ground or mid-way in midair would decapitate or bifurcate Enel.

 

[Tomato God]

Enel doesn't know Doflamingo's weakness is blowing away the clouds. Observation Haki won't tell him that, so he won't blow away the clouds.

A simple Overheat from the ground or mid-way in midair would decapitate or bifurcate Enel.

Haki. He can read DD's mind. And DD hasn't show a long range attack like that.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Haki. He can read DD's mind. And DD hasn't show a long range attack like that.

Observation Haki doesn't give you to ability to passively read your opponent's every thought. Otherwise, Enel would have known that Nami was lying to him and biding her time to escape. He claimed himself he hates manipulative women, attacking Robin because she tried to trick him[

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] and doesn't tolerate disrespect in any form(he's attacked people with El Thor just for whispering bad things about him), so if he could read her every thought passively, he would have attacked her right away instead of letting her on the Maxim. Nami was in the process of tricking him, if he could have read her mind, he would have attacked her like he did to Robin.

Overheat went from the sky just off of Green Bit into Dressrosa, a distance of many kilometers, in less than a few seconds.

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It's evident that it's less time than a few seconds because, right after the whip had already reached Dressrosa, Law hadn't even teleported out of the air and onto the Sunny yet. Not only that, but the lines around Law and Sanji and Caesar indicate they were still moving, meaning Overheat crossed many kilometers faster than Shambles is complete.

Your arguments are getting easier to counter, Tomahtoh.

 

[Tomato God]

Observation Haki doesn't give you to ability to passively read your opponent's every thought. Otherwise, Enel would have known that Nami was lying to him and biding her time to escape. He claimed himself he hates manipulative women, and doesn't tolerate disrespect in any form(he's attacked people with El Thor just for whispering bad things about him), so if he could read her every thought passively, he would have attacked her right away instead of letting her on the Maxim.

Overheat went from the sky just off of Green Bit into Dressrosa, a distance of many kilometers, in less than a few seconds.

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It's evident that it's less time than a few seconds because, right after the whip had already reached Dressrosa, Law hadn't even teleported out of the air and onto the Sunny yet. Not only that, but the lines around Law and Sanji and Caesar indicate they were still moving, meaning Overheat crossed many kilometers faster than Shambles is complete.

Your arguments are getting easier to counter, Tomahtoh.

So law's moving is faster than enels lightning XD
You make me laugh.
Law could teleport Him out of the way before DD could do it.

Enel's CoO is one of the best in this series and he couldn't dodge that? I call bs riker. I was hoping you would pull out that weak ass scan.