[Discussion] Who is stronger Juha Bach or Aizen Sousuke ?

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We haven't seen anyone go full power (Yhwach is just doing whatever he wants while the rest just watch, and Aizen is strapped to a chair.) But I believe Yhwach neggs Aizen. He beat Ichibei (who is a monster) and just absorbed the right hand of the Soul King. Kubo has created his own Madara.
 

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Yhwach ofc. Not just that Aizen didn't show anything that would put him above Yhwach, but there is also no point in him being stronger than Yhwach.

Yhwach did something that Aizen dreamed about (get to RR). The only thing that Aizen could have under his sleeve, could be his SWP rang. There is a reason why Aizen was ranked as SWP and he was able to fool Yhwach somehow (tho Jugram easily saw throught that), but even then higher ranked SWPs couldn't do anything to Yhwach (Ichigo & Zaraki). I really doubt Aizen could end stronger than Yhwach.

In the end Orochimaru never got as strong or stronger than Itachi/Madara/Obito/Kaguya.
 

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I love how all the Aizen fanboys are happy just cause Kubo threw them a bone. But seriously, Juha RAPES Aizen with his eyes closed. Actually, Hashwalth easily does the same. It doesn't matter if Aizen uses Kyoka Suigetsu, because it won't have any effect against the Almighty Lol. Don't get me wrong, Aizen's OP as **** without a doubt. But against Juha? Just No. His Majesty has shown feats which far surpasses Aizen's. And he somehow managed to survive against Zanka No Tachi which Aizen would surely be incinerated by. And right now? He's about to absorb the Soul King and become more powerful than ever. He probably one shotted Zaraki too. GG Aizen fanboys. GG
 
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Yhwach ofc. Not just that Aizen didn't show anything that would put him above Yhwach, but there is also no point in him being stronger than Yhwach.

Yhwach did something that Aizen dreamed about (get to RR). The only thing that Aizen could have under his sleeve, could be his SWP rang. There is a reason why Aizen was ranked as SWP and he was able to fool Yhwach somehow (tho Jugram easily saw throught that), but even then higher ranked SWPs couldn't do anything to Yhwach (Ichigo & Zaraki). I really doubt Aizen could end stronger than Yhwach.

In the end Orochimaru never got as strong or stronger than Itachi/Madara/Obito/Kaguya.
Show me a scan where it's stated that SWP are ranked in any order.
Ot: Aizen negs. If yhwach can really see everything, then he would've known that Aizen will neg those bugs. Also that was probably a full powered Kurohitsugi with no incantation.
 

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aizen : one you see his KS you are negged
Bach : one he open his eyes you are negged
All i know is that one of them will get negged with ichigo dieing in the cross fire only to come back with an asspull and neg the one who negged the other :snick:
 
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Show me a scan where it's stated that SWP are ranked in any order.
Ot: Aizen negs. If yhwach can really see everything, then he would've known that Aizen will neg those bugs. Also that was probably a full powered Kurohitsugi with no incantation.
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Yhwach no diffs honestly.

Pre Almighty and Mimihagi absorbed Bach should be above Aizen honestly he did take out Bankai Yamamoto without difficulty.
 

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Still Ywach.

Have you guys forgotten that he succeeded in destroying Soul Society, defeated the Royal Guards, killed Yamamoto, and killed the Soul King?

I'm pretty sure Aizen failed in the same plan.
 

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Kotoamatsukami makes a good point, if that is viz then we can consider it to be more credible, but MP translated it simply as one of. Viz obviously takes priority. But the first doesn't necessarily mean the strongest either, it can be just an order of who got put on the list first. Or just o way of numbering arbitrarily. Show me the scan from Chapter 490 page one where it says ichigo is a SWP, also show the scan where aizen is shown to be an swp. Do they get different numbers. If not this is probably meaningless.
 

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What's ur manga source?
VIZ.

Kotoamatsukami makes a good point, if that is viz then we can consider it to be more credible, but MP translated it simply as one of. Viz obviously takes priority. But the first doesn't necessarily mean the strongest either, it can be just an order of who got put on the list first. Or just o way of numbering arbitrarily. Show me the scan from Chapter 490 page one where it says ichigo is a SWP, also show the scan where aizen is shown to be an swp. Do they get different numbers. If not this is probably meaningless.
Ofc, VIZ is most credibile translation, but it don't need to mean it's always the best.

But not just VIZ but mostly of Asylum translation agree with the sentence, one of them work for Manga Stream. Plus, two translators (BadKarma and Cnet from MangaHelpers) who are one of the best on net have same translations.

This is BadKarma.

Page 16
Juhabach:特記戦力の1
Special Asset Number 1
Juhabach:更木剣八
Zaraki Kenpachi

This is Cnet.

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Leader: Notable Threat Number 1... // Zaraki Kenpachi. // How the mighty... / ...have fallen. // Pathetic.

I never intented to make point that Zaraki is stronger than Aizen. Because I think it's evident that Current Aizen is far above Zaraki. But my point is that Yhwach see Zaraki as bigger threat than Aizen.

Also, I would left room for Zaraki power up like removing patch and achiving bankai. Maybe at full power he could be stronger than Zaraki Aizen, but I sure don't think he is currently stronger. My point again was just to show how Yhwach see Aizen and how he see Zaraki.
 
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Yhwach is much stronger. He has the Almighty, Yama's bankai he can probably make himself stronger through holy selection, and plus now he is currently absorbing the Soul King's power.
 
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