Who is stronger: BM Minato or DSM Kabuto?

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I was wondering who was stronger. Both at max power. No edo Tensei.
 

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^^^No he cant,
OT - BM Minato wrecks Kabuto with ease
 

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but seriously, if he uses everything in his arsenal, he can.

How??? I am well aware of Kyuubi Minato being able to overwhelm Kabuto but Base Minato, no way
 

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Base Minato could win.

No he couldn't. Kabuto's Senjutsu enhanced liquification makes him practically impervious to anything Base Minato has to offer. Muki Tensei would also render his FTG markings futile. Once Mugen Onsa's sound waves come in contact with Minato's cochlea (and it will), the battle instantaneously ends, as Kabuto would then go about in speed blitzing him while paralyzed, with a Senjutsu empowered chakra scalpel assault.
 
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How??? I am well aware of Kyuubi Minato being able to overwhelm Kabuto but Base Minato, no way

with ma and pa. that gives minato partner method, the firepower to significantly damage kabuto and sensors. Kabuto also can't react to FTG if he's tagged or is right next to a kunai, and unlike suigetsu his liquification isn't instant. Having indefinite sennin mode also doesn't mean unlimited chakra reserves. White rage + chakra scalpel is also not happening when minato can use ftg without arms.
 

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Kabuto>>>Base Minato

Kabuto< or = Minato w/ Kurama.

Since Kabuto has the ability to use the cells manipulation. Which happens to one of them being Hashirama.
 

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Base Minato gets shat on by Kabuto
KCM Minato lacks the firepower to beat Kabuto
BM Minato makes Kabuto his biatch with Bijuudama.
 

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Neither one of them is really stronger. They are equals and rivals in every single way.
 

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with ma and pa. that gives minato partner method,
Ma&Pa would also get affected by White Rage and Mugen Onsa, therefore the partner method wont exactly work. and unlike the Uchiha Bros. they dont possess the sharingan to break themselves free

the firepower to significantly damage kabuto and sensors.
What firepower??? his attacks barely have any DC, since his arsenal is based on speed, as his attacks are countered by liquifying, oral rebirth and karins healing, and kabuto can also shed his skin,
minato simply lacks a way to hurt him, and what do you mean by ''damage sensors'' that makes no sense

Kabuto also can't react to FTG if he's tagged or is right next to a kunai, and unlike suigetsu his liquification isn't instant.
Kabuto doesnt need to react to FTG, as he can counter his physical blows just how he did in that scan,
minatos physical blows are having no effect on kabuto at all, similar to how susanoos punches (which are stronger than Minatos kunais) were moot against it,
not to mention that his liquifying ability is pretty much the same as suigetsus seeing how applied his DNA samples within himself, and unlike suigetsu he has applied his bodily fluids, and enhanced it even more

Having indefinite sennin mode also doesn't mean unlimited chakra reserves. White rage + chakra scalpel is also not happening when minato can use ftg without arms.
It certainly means that kabuto can outlast minato,
and , just how it made the uchiha bros. lose their susanoo,
its even worse it minato has no intel on White Rage or Mugen Onsa at all
 

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Ma&Pa would also get affected by White Rage and Mugen Onsa, therefore the partner method wont exactly work. and unlike the Uchiha Bros. they dont possess the sharingan to break themselves free

why wouldn't partner method work if they are fused to minato's shoulder?

What firepower??? his attacks barely have any DC, since his arsenal is based on speed, as his attacks are countered by liquifying, oral rebirth and karins healing, and kabuto can also shed his skin,
minato simply lacks a way to hurt him, and what do you mean by ''damage sensors'' that makes no sense
they can damage kabuto and they are sensors. His rasengan was able to tear up super durable obito's body. Sure he's not going to oneshot kabuto due to his amazing healing abilities and oral rebirth. ma and pa have a water laser and a widespread fuuton and katon combo.

Kabuto doesnt need to react to FTG, as he can counter his physical blows just how he did in that scan,
minatos physical blows are having no effect on kabuto at all, similar to how susanoos punches (which are stronger than Minatos kunais) were moot against it,
not to mention that his liquifying ability is pretty much the same as suigetsus seeing how applied his DNA samples within himself, and unlike suigetsu he has applied his bodily fluids, and enhanced it even more
minato's physical blows definitely have an affect on Kabuto, it's not going to kill him but all of this recovery and regenerating takes a toll on his stamina. Sure his liquifying ability is the same as suigetsus, not instant like suigetsus though.

It certainly means that kabuto can outlast minato,
and , just how it made the uchiha bros. lose their susanoo,
its even worse it minato has no intel on White Rage or Mugen Onsa at all
Why would the uchiha's being unable to maintain susanoo = minato can't use ftg? ftg isn't a technique that one maintains, and itachi was able to use susanoo before Kabuto could get to Sasuke. Minato just warps out of the techniques AoE or just far enough that Kabuto can't reach him before the tech ends.
 

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Base Minato gets shat on by Kabuto
KCM Minato lacks the firepower to beat Kabuto
BM Minato makes Kabuto his biatch with Bijuudama.

this right here^^^

@lanakui8 base minato gets wreck by kabuto...several other characters can beat him as well stop overrating him
 

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why wouldn't partner method work if they are fused to minato's shoulder?
Because White Rage and Mugen Onsa would affect ma&pa as well,
therefore all the entities would be under the genjutsu,
partner method only works, when the other entity isnt under a genjutsu therefore allowing the victim to break out,

they can damage kabuto and they are sensors. His rasengan was able to tear up super durable obito's body. Sure he's not going to oneshot kabuto due to his amazing healing abilities and oral rebirth. ma and pa have a water laser and a widespread fuuton and katon combo.
Rasengans are not doing much to someone as tenacious as kabuto,
oral rebirth, karins healing, snake skin, are therefore allowing kabuto to easily tank rasengans,

fuuton and katon combo are tanked easily due to kabuto being able to shed his skin, and his suiton can also be used to counter the katons,

minato's physical blows definitely have an affect on Kabuto, it's not going to kill him but all of this recovery and regenerating takes a toll on his stamina. Sure his liquifying ability is the same as suigetsus, not instant like suigetsus though.
how are minatos physical blows having any effect on kabuto???
he can liquify completely and can also manipulate his bodily fluids, meaning that itll be like punching water,
liquifying takes no toll on his stamina at all,

furthermore you are wrong about kabuto running out of chakra, first, , meaning that he would be , on top of the fact that Kabuto using juugo DNA, means that he can passively absorb natural energy whilst moving, therefore once he is in DSM, he simply recharges his new chakra, as if he never ran out,,
and with kabuto being able to absorb natural energy through the battle, means that he is never really running out, in DSM, especially not before minato is,


Why would the uchiha's being unable to maintain susanoo = minato can't use ftg? ftg isn't a technique that one maintains, and itachi was able to use susanoo before Kabuto could get to Sasuke. Minato just warps out of the techniques AoE or just far enough that Kabuto can't reach him before the tech ends.

minato cannot use FTG if hes paralysed and is unable to use, especially since FTG still requires chakra, and with minato unable to move, he is not evading it,
I am well aware that FTG isnt a technique that one maintains, however minato would still be unable to use it once he is affected by White Rage, or Mugen Onsa
and once he is caught, kabuto would use a chakra scalpel on him and end him,
 

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alive minato can win in a neutral location as ftg avoids most of kabuto's arsenal and minato also has frog song like white rage... also kabuto isn't reacting once tagged... so liquefying will only be usable before he gets tagged....
though BM minato wrecks....
 

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alive minato can win in a neutral location as ftg avoids most of kabuto's arsenal

Kabuto isn't dumb, as he knows he can. Using snake summons helps get rid of ftg in that case. Snake summon feats has shown to conceal things that they eat. They are perfect at carrying weapons and such. The same can be apply by eating them. Kabuto counters the Kunai by sending 1000 of snakes to eat them.

and minato also has frog song like white rage...

Assuming he will have time to use Senjutsu chakra in battle to summon Sage frogs. And assuming its an effective move against Kabuto.

also kabuto isn't reacting once tagged... so liquefying will only be usable before he gets tagged....


If he isn't reacting, to when he gets tagged, he oral rebirths out w/ a new body that isn't.

though BM minato wrecks....

I agree that Minato can beat him, due crazy speed and firepower. But I wouldn't count Kabuto out of giving him a hard time, considering he will need Buijuudama to finish this fight. To which he has ways to avoid the blast.
 

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So from what I'm reading, neither Hashirama, Madara or the likes of Nagato can counter white rage then?
 
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