Who is smarter?

Who is the smartest among these ninja in term of strategy?

  • Shikamaru

    Votes: 18 29.0%
  • Kakashi

    Votes: 12 19.4%
  • Itachi

    Votes: 21 33.9%
  • Sasuke

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Minato

    Votes: 10 16.1%

  • Total voters
    62
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No one is talking about the Sharingan here so I don't even know why you're bringing that up. The Sharingan doesn't make you smarter...

Shikamaru can form strategies, but he needs time to do it. Itachi on the other hand has been able to make plans in the midst of battle and carry them out while in combat.



Shikamaru is more of the behind the scenes tactician - like what Shikaku has been doing for the alliance.

Itachi is more of the type to use his smarts in actual battle
Don't respond to my post if you can't used your brain.

The Sharingan's second-most prominent ability grants the user an incredible clarity of perception, allowing them to easily recognise genjutsu and different forms of chakra, though not to the same extent as the Byakugan. This also allows the user to pick up on subtle details, enabling them to read lip movements[4] or mimic something like pencil movements.[5] As the Sharingan evolves, gaining more tomoe seals, this ability extends to being able to track fast-moving objects before finally giving some amount of predictive capabilities to the user, allowing them to see the image of an attacker’s next move from the slightest muscle tension in their body and counterattack or dodge without any wasted movement.
Someone was talking about the sharingan and that person is me.I brought it up to show how Itachi sharingan gives him an strategic advantage in battle compare to someone like Shikamaru.Saying something as stupid and pointless as "The Sharingan doesn't make you smarter" only makes me wonder about your mental state.It's obvious the sharingan doesn't make you smarter, but the sharingan does provides information, which in battle is nearly the same as being smarter.Knowing where you opponent is going to move before he moves and knowing what type of jutsu he going to use before he uses it would make any shinobis ability to plan in battle easy.Itachi relives heavily on the sharingan to give him information within battles while Shikamaru uses only his brain to figure out his opponents abilities and devise a strategy to defeat them.


As for shikimaru needing time to plan strategies.Good thing he has the ability to stop his opponents movements.
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Of course this isn't as fast as Itachi, but Shikimaru doesn't have a sharingan.
 

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1. Minato(only a fanboy would disagree given his ability to make strategies in the middle of a fight
2. Shikamaru
3. Itachi
4. who else was there..?
 

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Don't respond to my post if you can't used your brain.
Exactly what in my post are you referring to as brainless?

The thread is asking for who is smarter, period. Thus far it's arguably Itachi. Ya, he does have the Sharingan. What's your point? It's in his arsenal of tools, thus it's fair game.

And there's nothing wrong with my stating that the Sharingan doesn't make you smarter, because it doesn't. The information that he gains means nothing unless he's already smart enough to use it. Any retard could theoretically have a Sharingan but unless they have the competence to be able to analyze it and formulate tactics using it, it means nothing.

So back to my initial statement: The Sharingan doesn't make you smarter.
Itachi already has the intelligence to be able to use the information he gains from it, interpret it, draw enemy intel from whatever he sees, carry out analyses, and create strategies.

If your reason for pushing Shikamaru into the #1 spot is by crippling Itachi, then what's the point?

It's Shikamaru with everything he has versus Itachi with everything he has, period.
 
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In the poll the person who has shown the most intelligent feat is itachi without a doubt.

The thing with shikamaru is that although a genius i do not believe he is smarter than kakashi, itachi and minato is certain situations.

Example against temari, everything was planned and with that beat her very convincingly.
Against hidan, asuma and the other two protected him whilst he he was able to decode hidan's ability.

Again hidan part2, he already knew of his ability and came up with a strategy to defeat him. In all these situation's he hasnt been pushed. He has either had background info already or somebody is protecting him whilt he does the decoding. He hasnt been in the type of situation where itachi, minato and kakshi has been in where they are in the heat of a battle and able to make quick decisions.

In such a scenario i cannot see shikamaru's being able to in a heat of battle whilst at the same time trying to figure out his opponent's technique. Could argue because he isnt strong enough to keep up with the strongest of opponents whilst figuring out how their technique works, but my point still stands.

People also fail to mention others like, tsunade, sakura, kurenai, neji.
Medic ninjutsu is said to require quiet a high degree of intellect and thats what sakura and tsuande do well in. No different to genjutsu which kurenai does well in without the help of a doujutsu. Also neji whom i need not explain.

There are different types of intellect examples are calss exams which people like sakura, tsunade, shikamaru, ino and kurenai would do well in.

There are things like planning, which tobi is a master of, kabuto & oro, shikamaru and skikaku, minato and itachi (minato's and itachi's both gambled. Minato's gamble is paying of but naruto couldve easily become like gaara in part 1 if it wasnt for external circumstances which he had influence on. Same with itachi his gamble isnt paying of due to external circumstances)

In battle intellect; Itachi, minato, shikamaru, kakashi, sasuke, naruto

There are out of battle research and experiments which, kabuto, oro, itachi have

Basically what im trying to say is that you cannot measure. Sakura would wipe the floor with naruto when it comes to exams with little effort, but naruto has a superior battle intellect than sakura. Simlarly tobi has better planning intellect feats than itachi, but he had to threaten kabuto to tell him the weakness of edo tensei. Itachi already knew the weakness of edo tensei. Tobi hasnt shown us any intelligent battle feats, whilst itachi has shwon us a boat full

Also people need to realise that intellect has very little to do with kg and everything to do with brain power. You can have as many sharigans as you want, even if they are implanted on your arms, if you arent smart, you arent smart.

Its criminal to say that all the intellect itachi has shown is because of his sharigan, because that is obviously wrong. The man know things that nobody else knows but can also somewhat predict future events. How he knows that kabuto would likely has sm, is beyond me. He knows of the land of the white snakes. Other planning feats are implanting amatersu to activated upon contact with tobi's sharigan. Also implanting ka into naruto to activate upon the sight of sasuke's eyes. Both these planning feats failed due to external circumstances that has very little to do with brain power because after all no matter how smart you are you cannot tell the future
 
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In the poll the person who has shown the most intelligent feat is itachi without a doubt.

The thing with shikamaru is that although a genius i do not believe he is smarter than kakashi, itachi and minato is certain situations.

Example against temari, everything was planned and with that beat her very convincingly.
Against hidan, asuma and the other two protected him whilst he he was able to decode hidan's ability.

Again hidan part2, he already knew of his ability and came up with a strategy to defeat him. In all these situation's he hasnt been pushed. He has either had background info already or somebody is protecting him whilt he does the decoding. He hasnt been in the type of situation where itachi, minato and kakshi has been in where they are in the heat of a battle and able to make quick decisions.

In such a scenario i cannot see shikamaru's being able to in a heat of battle whilst at the same time trying to figure out his opponent's technique. Could argue because he isnt strong enough to keep up with the strongest of opponents whilst figuring out how their technique works, but my point still stands.

People also fail to mention others like, tsunade, sakura, kurenai, neji.
Medic ninjutsu is said to require quiet a high degree of intellect and thats what sakura and tsuande do well in. No different to genjutsu which kurenai does well in without the help of a doujutsu. Also neji whom i need not explain.

There are different types of intellect examples are calss exams which people like sakura, tsunade, shikamaru, ino and kurenai would do well in.

There are things like planning, which tobi is a master of, kabuto & oro, shikamaru and skikaku, minato and itachi (minato's and itachi's both gambled. Minato's gamble is paying of but naruto couldve easily become like gaara in part 1 if it wasnt for external circumstances which he had influence on. Same with itachi his gamble isnt paying of due to external circumstances)

In battle intellect; Itachi, minato, shikamaru, kakashi, sasuke, naruto

There are out of battle research and experiments which, kabuto, oro, itachi have

Basically what im trying to say is that you cannot measure. Sakura would wipe the floor with naruto when it comes to exams with little effort, but naruto has a superior battle intellect than sakura. Simlarly tobi has better planning intellect feats than itachi, but he had to threaten kabuto to tell him the weakness of edo tensei. Itachi already knew the weakness of edo tensei. Tobi hasnt shown us any intelligent battle feats, whilst itachi has shwon us a boat full

Also people need to realise that intellect has very little to do with kg and everything to do with brain power. You can have as many sharigans as you want, even if they are implanted on your arms, if you arent smart, you arent smart.

Its criminal to say that all the intellect itachi has shown is because of his sharigan, because that is obviously wrong. The man know things that nobody else knows but can also somewhat predict future events.
Well said, +rep
 

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1:Itachi>>>>>> intelligent even at a younger age then shikamaru.Kabuto hyped him so much in the manga. still he is proving kabuto wrong in the last manga.
2:Minato>>>kage must be smart.
3:kakashi>>>> surprise attacks even itachi praised him.
4:shikamaru he is smart for his age but not at the same level mentioned above.
5:sasuke i dont count him in smart but...
 
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1:Itachi>>>>>> intelligent even at a younger age then shikamaru.Kabuto hyped him so much in the manga. still he is proving kabuto wrong in the last manga.
2:Minato>>>kage must be smart.
3:kakashi>>>> surprise attacks even itachi praised him.
4:shikamaru he is smart for his age but not at the same level mentioned above.
5:sasuke i dont count him in smart but...
this but in strategy i would take shikamaru above kakashi lol:scorps:
 

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Why is Shikimaru not winning this poll?

It should be Shikimaru followed by Kakashi hatake from what we have seen.

However, there are people on this site who think Itachi is stronger than Madara so it's not too suprising that he's winning the poll lol.

People like Kakashi/Minato/Itachi can keep their opponents on their toes much better than Shikimaru can. Does this mean they are smarter than him? Not at all, they are FAR superior to him in almost every way bar intelligence. Don't get overall power mixed up with intellect =p
 
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Kakashi is overall the smartest.

Shikimaru is just Shogi smart, classroom test smart, and sit back and formulate strategies smart.

Kakashi is smarter than Shikimaru in the classroom, graduated from the academy at age 5 while shiki did it at age 12-13.
Kakashi can make strategies faster than Shikimaru. Kakashi uses battle tactics to decode his opponents while Shikimaru reads books about them and asks other people lol.

Orochimaru and Kabuto should also be in the mix.
Kakazu should be as well, he was able to outsmart Shikimaru and Kakashi.

Minato relies on who's faster to win his battles. Not saying he's not smart though he's a genius afterall.

Itachi is great at foreshadowing, and has vast knowledge on virtually everything it seems.
He is ofcourse a brilliant person. He's able to decode a persons abilities very fastvjust like Kakashi except Itachi is more suited to capitalize on them.

My real list:
Kakashi
Itachi(possible #1)
Minato
Shikimaru
Saswho?
 

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As far as strategy I'd say Shikamaru as he has been able to defeat opponents way stronger than him due to his analytical abilities and cunning. Not enough information about Minato for me to properly decide but he's probably tied or slightly above or below Itachi. Both of them are strong enough that even without a fantastic strategy they could probably defeat most of their opponents anyways. Next would be Kakashi and then Sasuke whom even though he's last on the list he is severely underestimated as someone noted how he defeated Danzo.
 

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In the poll the person who has shown the most intelligent feat is itachi without a doubt.

The thing with shikamaru is that although a genius i do not believe he is smarter than kakashi, itachi and minato is certain situations.

Example against temari, everything was planned and with that beat her very convincingly.
Against hidan, asuma and the other two protected him whilst he he was able to decode hidan's ability.

Again hidan part2, he already knew of his ability and came up with a strategy to defeat him. In all these situation's he hasnt been pushed. He has either had background info already or somebody is protecting him whilt he does the decoding. He hasnt been in the type of situation where itachi, minato and kakshi has been in where they are in the heat of a battle and able to make quick decisions.

In such a scenario i cannot see shikamaru's being able to in a heat of battle whilst at the same time trying to figure out his opponent's technique. Could argue because he isnt strong enough to keep up with the strongest of opponents whilst figuring out how their technique works, but my point still stands.

People also fail to mention others like, tsunade, sakura, kurenai, neji.
Medic ninjutsu is said to require quiet a high degree of intellect and thats what sakura and tsuande do well in. No different to genjutsu which kurenai does well in without the help of a doujutsu. Also neji whom i need not explain.

There are different types of intellect examples are calss exams which people like sakura, tsunade, shikamaru, ino and kurenai would do well in.

There are things like planning, which tobi is a master of, kabuto & oro, shikamaru and skikaku, minato and itachi (minato's and itachi's both gambled. Minato's gamble is paying of but naruto couldve easily become like gaara in part 1 if it wasnt for external circumstances which he had influence on. Same with itachi his gamble isnt paying of due to external circumstances)

In battle intellect; Itachi, minato, shikamaru, kakashi, sasuke, naruto

There are out of battle research and experiments which, kabuto, oro, itachi have

Basically what im trying to say is that you cannot measure. Sakura would wipe the floor with naruto when it comes to exams with little effort, but naruto has a superior battle intellect than sakura. Simlarly tobi has better planning intellect feats than itachi, but he had to threaten kabuto to tell him the weakness of edo tensei. Itachi already knew the weakness of edo tensei. Tobi hasnt shown us any intelligent battle feats, whilst itachi has shwon us a boat full

Also people need to realise that intellect has very little to do with kg and everything to do with brain power. You can have as many sharigans as you want, even if they are implanted on your arms, if you arent smart, you arent smart.

Its criminal to say that all the intellect itachi has shown is because of his sharigan, because that is obviously wrong. The man know things that nobody else knows but can also somewhat predict future events. How he knows that kabuto would likely has sm, is beyond me. He knows of the land of the white snakes. Other planning feats are implanting amatersu to activated upon contact with tobi's sharigan. Also implanting ka into naruto to activate upon the sight of sasuke's eyes. Both these planning feats failed due to external circumstances that has very little to do with brain power because after all no matter how smart you are you cannot tell the future

yea i agree there is no doubt that itachi is number 1 when it comes to intelligence/smarty
shikamaru is to be shown smart for his age but when itachi as at the same age lol itachi would still outsmart him.
 

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its foolness to say that itachi is isn the smartest here.

lets be clear feats/facts 1:Itachi
2: Minato
3:Kakashi
4:Shikamaru(he's is good for his age but not at the same level above in battle the other 3 above are more experienced.)
5: Sasuke??? lol you decide
 

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Why is Shikimaru not winning this poll?

It should be Shikimaru followed by Kakashi hatake from what we have seen.

However, there are people on this site who think Itachi is stronger than Madara so it's not too suprising that he's winning the poll lol.

People like Kakashi/Minato/Itachi can keep their opponents on their toes much better than Shikimaru can. Does this mean they are smarter than him? Not at all, they are FAR superior to him in almost every way bar intelligence. Don't get overall power mixed up with intellect =p
then allow me to ask you
then what the heck do you understand under smartness?
 
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