who is overrated and underrated ?

[Sicnesse]

Under: Hidan, Sasori, Tobirama, Oonoki, Kabuto
Over: Minato, Sasuke, Naruto

 

[Fecal Matter]

Under: Hidan, Sasori, Tobirama, Oonoki, Kabuto
Over: Minato, Sasuke, Naruto

Only those 3? there's like 2 others i can easily say at the top of my head

 

[tenten fan]

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This was the only thing I found when googling the word, not saying you're wrong, just never heard of it.



Isn't like everything here from the anime fillers? Those never really happend bro!

no i was wrong concur :flaw:

yea but its all i have to go off

i will provide u fact from manga
in databook which is made from kishimoto ..
in part3 (shippuden)

:sakura: = 26
:tenten: = 20.5

which is mean
:sakura: > :tenten:

not in speed which is key in most battles
you can't kill what you cant catch

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

overrated: hiruzen, naruto,kakashi, obito

underrated: shishui, 3rd raikage, sasuke, madara, hashirama, muu, kimmimaru, yogara, hanzo

 

[kooko]

no i was wrong concur :flaw:

yea but its all i have to go off

not in speed which is key in most battles
you can't kill what you cant catch

tenten didn't kill kakuzu , she only use the banana fan to destroy one of kakuzu 5 hearts and she faints after that ..
it's useless since kakuzu has another 4 hearts
beside sakura killed sasori all by herself and sakura speed is 3 while tenten is 3.5 so there is no big different in speed ..
i showed u proof from databook that sakura power is higher than tenten power .

 

[Wik]

no i was wrong concur :flaw:

yea but its all i have to go off

not in speed which is key in most battles
you can't kill what you cant catch

I should've realized that's what you meant -_-

About the speed thing. Being quicker then someone does not make you uncatchable. Look at Haku. And if the speed advantage is not overwhelming. widerange attacks and anticipation is still very effective. It feels bad to kick someone who is allready down. But based on what we know of Tenten (what's in the manga.). She is the by far weakest k12 member. To me it even seems awkward that she has any fans in the beginning considering she is barely in the show. Personally i have as much of a connection to Tenten as I have to the guy gaara kills in the forest of death part 1. The guy with the umbrella.

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tenten didn't kill kakuzu , she only use the banana fan to destroy one of kakuzu 5 hearts and she faints after that ..
it's useless since kakuzu has another 4 hearts
beside sakura killed sasori all by herself and sakura speed is 3 while tenten is 3.5 so there is no big different in speed ..
i showed u proof from databook that sakura power is higher than tenten power .

Chiyo helped Sakura

 

[kooko]

Chiyo helped Sakura

they were a tag team and they must help each others and sakura helped chyio ..
the fight was 75 % sakura while chyio 25% ..

go back to manga & u will understand what i mean

 

[tenten fan]

tenten didn't kill kakuzu , she only use the banana fan to destroy one of kakuzu 5 hearts and she faints after that ..
it's useless since kakuzu has another 4 hearts
beside sakura killed sasori all by herself and sakura speed is 3 while tenten is 3.5 so there is no big different in speed ..
i showed u proof from databook that sakura power is higher than tenten power .

I should've realized that's what you meant -_-

About the speed thing. Being quicker then someone does not make you uncatchable. Look at Haku. And if the speed advantage is not overwhelming. widerange attacks and anticipation is still very effective. It feels bad to kick someone who is allready down. But based on what we know of Tenten (what's in the manga.). She is the by far weakest k12 member. To me it even seems awkward that she has any fans in the beginning considering she is barely in the show. Personally i have as much of a connection to Tenten as I have to the guy gaara kills in the forest of death part 1. The guy with the umbrella.

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Chiyo helped Sakura

@wik
you seem very well researched
and i appulade you for that
seems like you know what your talking about
but even
if she has no screen time i always liked the little guy
even kishi said she was his fav k11 girl
@both
but she is more offensively orientated
look at her skill set compared to sakura's
fire
knives
explosions
she's set to kill
especially wooden puppets

and i only mentioned the speed because sakura barely got hit
so imagine if she was a little faster against sasora she would have been untouchable
in this instance

@kooko
she kept him in a stale mate till chyoji sqaushed him
so in turn her actions led to the destruction of the rest of his hearts
and while databook says shes a better pick
not for that situation
wood + fire + explosions = no more wood

 

[kooko]

@wik
you seem very well researched
and i appulade you for that
seems like you know what your talking about
but even
if she has no screen time i always liked the little guy
even kishi said she was his fav k11 girl
@both
but she is more offensively orientated
look at her skill set compared to sakura's
fire
knives
explosions
she's set to kill
especially wooden puppets

and i only mentioned the speed because sakura barely got hit
so imagine if she was a little faster against sasora she would have been untouchable
in this instance

@kooko
she kept him in a stale mate till chyoji sqaushed him
so in turn her actions led to the destruction of the rest of his hearts
and while databook says shes a better pick
not for that situation
wood + fire + explosions = no more wood

tenten is so overrated by u right now
, she lost easily against temari ..
she lost easily against kisame clone .
no more screentime for her in shippuden because kishimoto hate her ..
she's good as support character , sakura is main character and against kakuzu ,
i must admit i was suprised when she managed to use the legendary so6p weapon but she lost all her chakra only when she tried to use it once .

right now the strongest konoha11 girl :

1- :sakura:
2-
3-
4- :tenten:

and sakura is most underrated amoung them

 

[Wik]

@wik
you seem very well researched
and i appulade you for that
seems like you know what your talking about
but even
if she has no screen time i always liked the little guy
even kishi said she was his fav k11 girl
@both
but she is more offensively orientated
look at her skill set compared to sakura's
fire
knives
explosions
she's set to kill
especially wooden puppets

and i only mentioned the speed because sakura barely got hit
so imagine if she was a little faster against sasora she would have been untouchable
in this instance

@kooko
she kept him in a stale mate till chyoji sqaushed him
so in turn her actions led to the destruction of the rest of his hearts
and while databook says shes a better pick
not for that situation
wood + fire + explosions = no more wood

Well I get where you're coming from My fav k12 has always been Hinata for the same reason. However at least we get to see a little about her story and get to know her more personally. also she seems to have a larger role in the overall plot. The problem with Tenten is that all we've seen of her is chuunin preliminary and a few seriously bad fillers (Like all fillers). Also I'd have to assume she isn't very strong especially not without a team that she can support from a long range as we really haven't seen her beat anyone but herself outside akutski cave 1v1. At least as long as you don't count fillers, wich at least I don't.

they were a tag team and they must help each others and sakura helped chyio ..
the fight was 75 % sakura while chyio 25% ..

go back to manga & u will understand what i mean

beside sakura killed sasori all by herself.

Dude go back to your own post instead of sending me back to the manga...

And no I'd say it was about 50/50. Remeber that the whole arsenal of needle attacks i from the original puppet was chiyo dodging with both herself and Sakura at the same time. You really underestimate Chiyo.

 

[tenten fan]

tenten is so overrated by u right now
, she lost easily against temari ..
she lost easily against kisame clone .
no more screentime for her in shippuden because kishimoto hate her ..
she's good as support character , sakura is main character and against kakuzu ,
i must admit i was suprised when she managed to use the legendary so6p weapon but she lost all her chakra only when she tried to use it once .

when against a kisame clone????
and the temari fight was just anime

maybe i am overrating her
but hey
she'd make a good anbu
explosions knives fodder, and dies easily = anbu

Well I get where you're coming from My fav k12 has always been Hinata for the same reason. However at least we get to see a little about her story and get to know her more personally. also she seems to have a larger role in the overall plot. The problem with Tenten is that all we've seen of her is chuunin preliminary and a few seriously bad fillers (Like all fillers). Also I'd have to assume she isn't very strong especially not without a team that she can support from a long range as we really haven't seen her beat anyone but herself outside akutski cave 1v1. At least as long as you don't count fillers, wich at least I don't.

Well you haven't seen otherwise to say she can't 1v1 someone
but maybe will findout outside of fillers

 

[kooko]

Well I get where you're coming from My fav k12 has always been Hinata for the same reason. However at least we get to see a little about her story and get to know her more personally. also she seems to have a larger role in the overall plot. The problem with Tenten is that all we've seen of her is chuunin preliminary and a few seriously bad fillers (Like all fillers). Also I'd have to assume she isn't very strong especially not without a team that she can support from a long range as we really haven't seen her beat anyone but herself outside akutski cave 1v1. At least as long as you don't count fillers, wich at least I don't.





Dude go back to your own post instead of sending me back to the manga...

And no I'd say it was about 50/50. Remeber that the whole arsenal of needle attacks i from the original puppet was chiyo dodging with both herself and Sakura at the same time. You really underestimate Chiyo.

please don't deny it & here is the proof

when against a kisame clone????
and the temari fight was just anime

maybe i am overrating her
but hey
she'd make a good anbu
explosions knives fodder, and dies easily = anbu

here is the proof against kisame clone .

 

[Wik]

1- :sakura:
2-
3-
4- :tenten:

and sakura is most underrated amoung them

I assume this is just your opinion. Since I can see Hinata beating Sakura even though it could go either way. it would be first hit wins more or less but I think Hinata is faster.

Edit: And I also think Tenten would beat Ino if it's a 1v1 fight. Most of Inos skills are useless in that scenario.

when against a kisame clone????
and the temari fight was just anime

maybe i am overrating her
but hey
she'd make a good anbu
explosions knives fodder, and dies easily = anbu

Well you haven't seen otherwise to say she can't 1v1 someone
but maybe will findout outside of fillers

I agree. These are just speculations based on what I've seen so far. nothing more nothing less. But it would be more silly to speculate she will win based on what's not been seen then the other way around.

 

[tenten fan]

I assume this is just your opinion. Since I can see Hinata beating Sakura even though it could go either way. it would be first hit wins more or less but I think Hinata is faster.
Edit: And I also think Tenten would beat Ino if it's a 1v1 fight. Most of Inos skills are useless in that scenario.
I agree. These are just speculations based on what I've seen so far. nothing more nothing less. But it would be more silly to speculate she will win based on what's not been seen then the other way around.

but look at who she trains with lee and neji
two of the best fighters of k11
and i doubt she acted as a punching bag
so she must be able to stand alone even if momentarily

 

[Wik]

please don't deny it & here is the proof

This isn't proof this is 1 minute of an 8 episodes fight. Troll much?

This is proof

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but look at who she trains with lee and neji
two of the best fighters of k11
and i doubt she acted as a punching bag
so she must be able to stand alone even if momentarily

With that argument Sakura would be able to hold her own against Obito since she trained with Tsunade who trained with Jiraya so they should be equally strong. And Jiraya trained Minato who beat Obito.

I get your point and that you want to defend your favorite. but these are just speculations. Everything we've seen so far from Tenten hasn't been very impressive. I personally thinks that sad but you can't argue that someone is strong solely on something that hasn't been seen. Sorry bro!

 

[CrimsonFire]

Overrated: Naruto, Sasuke, Minato, Kiler Bee, Madara, Itachi, Pain, Neji, Shikamaru, Lee, Hinata, Gaara, Orochimaru, Kakashi, Obito/Tobi

Underrated: TenTen, Ino, Choji, Kiba, Shino, Sai, Yamato, Anko, Temari, Kankuro, Suigetsu, Jugo, Karin, Guy, Asuma, Sakura

 

[tenten fan]

please don't deny it & here is the proof





here is the proof against kisame clone .

she got thrashed
so did neji and lee and those are great shinobi

 

[kooko]

she got thrashed
so did neji and lee and those are great shinobi

then, admit that she lost

 

[tenten fan]

then, admit that she lost

she did... so touche but that doesn't mean that she's any less of a shinobi
she's still capable imo
and will be important (hopefully xd) in the story

 

[Wik]

she did... so touche but that doesn't mean that she's any less of a shinobi
she's still capable imo
and will be important (hopefully xd) in the story

Of course she is capable as a shinobi. it all depends on what you compare with. Compare to more important characters and she is just fodder. Compare with actual fodder and she is strong. You often forget how strong the k12 actually is.