Who is more strong visards or captain of gotei 13

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vizards have the hollow form to rely on but that doesnt mean they are stronger... but I do think vizards win
Doesn't make them stronger than the captains, or doesn't increase their power?
I'm pretty sure Byakuya, Kenpachi and Mayuri wouldn't just go down easily
Byakuya was getting owned by Ichigo's hollow... with a mask...
I think any vizard would be as powerful as ichigo was at that point.
 

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Vizards are stronger. They were all highly ranked shinigami first of all, so they are naturally very strong, but when they enter there vizard forms, they can push the limitations of there soul past its possible limit making them more powerful than any normal hollow or shinigami. Aizen said that only by crossing the boundaries between shinigami and hollow, can one surpass there spiritual limit, so it is only logical to say that the vizards are stronger.
 

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I know but that ichigo is vizard... but he is not strong as them...
Not necessarily. From the manga and the anime, we can conclude that Ichigo is a genius(captain level after 15 days of fighting?). The Vizards may be more experienced, but he has that cool thing called "I'm the main character syndrome" so he's not allowed to lose :p. He also has the full hollow transformation on his side, which as you can see during his fight with Ulquiorra, is extremely powerful.
 

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Byakuya was getting owned by Ichigo's hollow... with a mask...
I think any vizard would be as powerful as ichigo was at that point.
It kinda caught him off guard there, and I wasnt getting owned at all - yeah I know its no excuse but he didn't go down easy did he?
 
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