Who is more powerful Jubi Madara or Sasuke?

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  • Sasuke

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Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo

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what manga are you reading? sasuke was pretty much thrashing him the entire encounter which ended in madara being split in two. 3 rinnegan juubi madara is the only one ahead of him.

One eyed Madara would have low diff Sasuke in a fair fight my friend . Madara had his gudodamas nerfed and had to focus on both Naruto and Sasuke without any intel on their new techniques , any versions of Jin Madara from One eyed to kamui to double rinnegan would low diff him without the nerfs he received , and 8 gates Gai / Naruto to back up Current Sasuke lmao.
 

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One eyed Madara would have low diff Sasuke in a fair fight my friend . Madara had his gudodamas nerfed and had to focus on both Naruto and Sasuke without any intel on their new techniques , any versions of Jin Madara from One eyed to kamui to double rinnegan would low diff him without the nerfs he received , and 8 gates Gai / Naruto to back up Current Sasuke lmao.
he still had his staff which he can use to defend but what good is that if you cant react in time to the opponents attack? he was rinneblized twice and he couldnt do shit about it. and sasuke barely went all out as he didnt use ps. the three times madara was hit had nothing to do with naruto tho, it was all sasuke. nerf or no nerf fact is he was getting beat hence he had to get his 2nd rinnegan to compete.
 

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he still had his staff which he can use to defend but what good is that if you cant react in time to the opponents attack? he was rinneblized twice and he couldnt do shit about it. and sasuke barely went all out as he didnt use ps. the three times madara was hit had nothing to do with naruto tho, it was all sasuke. nerf or no nerf fact is he was getting beat hence he had to get his 2nd rinnegan to compete.

Madara had his Gudodama's nerfed and couldn't defend himself against an ability given by the sage he had no intel of. It was all plot and everybody knows it, as Gudodama's are Jins unique defence considering their original abilities are nerfed, Sasuke has no way to pass it period . Not even knowing this shows me your level of comprehension of the manga . Madara was dealing with all the alliange , 8 gates Gai and anybody else, he only wanted to get his Second Rinnegan to eliminate any risks of being overpowered , and cast IT as soon as possible as it was his main goal ; Sasuke, Naruto and anybody else were supposed to be in IT too.
 

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Madara had his Gudodama's nerfed and couldn't defend himself against an ability given by the sage he had no intel of. It was all plot and everybody knows it, as Gudodama's are Jins unique defence considering their original abilities are nerfed, Sasuke has no way to pass it period . Not even knowing this shows me your level of comprehension of the manga . Madara was dealing with all the alliange , 8 gates Gai and anybody else, he only wanted to get his Second Rinnegan to eliminate any risks of being overpowered , and cast IT as soon as possible as it was his main goal ; Sasuke, Naruto and anybody else were supposed to be in IT too.
Except Goudama aren't tanking PS slashes, when it already canonically was broken through by a far inferior fusion and it's been broken by Gai as well.

The only Madara that can beat Sasuke is Double Rinnegan Shinju Madara, when he has both, he has access to PS and all the Six Paths techniques, he'd decimate Sasuke.
 

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Except Goudama aren't tanking PS slashes, when it already canonically was broken through by a far inferior fusion and it's been broken by Gai as well.

The only Madara that can beat Sasuke is Double Rinnegan Shinju Madara, when he has both, he has access to PS and all the Six Paths techniques, he'd decimate Sasuke.

This is a flawed logic, Madara does not have to use Gudodama's against PS knowing it can be broken by it . Limbo Hengoku , Mokujin , Myojimon , SS , His own PS could have dealt with Sasuke's PS... Isnt it obvious yet the Jins defeats were bullshit , in any versions of them?
 

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This is a flawed logic, Madara does not have to use Gudodama's against PS knowing it can be broken by it . Limbo Hengoku , Mokujin , Myojimon , SS , His own PS could have dealt with Sasuke's PS... Isnt it obvious yet the Jins defeats were bullshit , in any versions of them?

Implying Mokuton is making any difference here is laughable at best, and Madara doesn't have access to PS without both eyes as it's his full power. Single Rinnegan Madara only has a single Limbo Clone, which can be damaged and it will revert back to the real body. The mere fact that Madara had no trouble pushing Sasuke and Naruto back with his Double Rinnegan shows he was truly at full power, he was ready to kill them where as before, everything he did was countered.

Once Madara gains his second Rinnegan, he would godstomp Sasuke with little trouble. Without it, he just simply gets defeated.
 

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Implying Mokuton is making any difference here is laughable at best, and Madara doesn't have access to PS without both eyes as it's his full power. Single Rinnegan Madara only has a single Limbo Clone, which can be damaged and it will revert back to the real body. The mere fact that Madara had no trouble pushing Sasuke and Naruto back with his Double Rinnegan shows he was truly at full power, he was ready to kill them where as before, everything he did was countered.

Once Madara gains his second Rinnegan, he would godstomp Sasuke with little trouble. Without it, he just simply gets defeated.

An even Bigger SS could have restrained Sasuke's PS enough, and Jin Madara's PS would stomp him as well . Also, The Limbo clones does not transfer any damage to Madara, otherwise he would have being shown damaged by the Moon Chidori & Magnet Rasengan combo his clone tanked.
The Susano'o part is only your own assumptions , Madara can access PS with or without eyes.
 

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An even Bigger SS could have restrained Sasuke's PS enough, and Jin Madara's PS would stomp him as well . Also, The Limbo clones does not transfer any damage to Madara, otherwise he would have being shown damaged by the Moon Chidori & Magnet Rasengan combo his clone tanked.
The Susano'o part is only your own assumptions , Madara can access PS with or without eyes.
SS isn't hitting flying Susano'o nor is it desroying it as it can use it's wings as a buffer and has thicker armour than Kyuubi coated Susano'o, Sasuke bisects Shinsuusenju just like he bisected the island sized meteors.

Madara himself said you cannot access your eyes full power unless you have both, it's not an assumption, it's a fact. He cannot use PS without both eyes.


Edit: I read again, Limbo damage may not revert, but it does revert back to the original and it's temporarily unusable, and implying Limbo is doing anything to Sasuke is laughable. It's useless against someone with Rikudo's chakra/enhanced PS as it's not overpowering it nor destroying it.
 
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SS isn't hitting flying Susano'o nor is it desroying it as it can use it's wings as a buffer and has thicker armour than Kyuubi coated Susano'o, Sasuke bisects Shinsuusenju just like he bisected the island sized meteors.

Madara himself said you cannot access your eyes full power unless you have both, it's not an assumption, it's a fact. He cannot use PS without both eyes.

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SS can and will catch the Susano'o blades . Sasuke has in not any way a thicker coat, or better resistance if that's what you meant, considering how the Kyubi PS dwarfs Current Sasuke's PS in size.

This scan proves nothing as the one who's wounded is the Limbo clone , Sasuke only stated the Sage Senjutsu seems to work on the Shadow Madara . There is absolutely no panel where the real Madara (In black , with the sword) has the wound too. I already proved limbo clones does not transfer any damage due to the fact the Madara clone tanked Sealed jutsus without transferring any part of it, you seem to have overlooked that.
You're also only using Madara's quote out of it context, and that's sad. Madara has used Susano'o without any eyes, so he can use any form of it at his will , and you thick headed guys wont reform a manga on a forum dude. It is only your own assumptions and cannot be mentioned as true just because you only do not want it to happen.
 

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SS can and will catch the Susano'o blades . Sasuke has in not any way a thicker coat, or better resistance if that's what you meant, considering how the Kyubi PS dwarfs Current Sasuke's PS in size.

This scan proves nothing as the one who's wounded is the Limbo clone , Sasuke only stated the Sage Senjutsu seems to work on the Shadow Madara . There is absolutely no panel where the real Madara (In black , with the sword) has the wound too. I already proved limbo clones does not transfer any damage due to the fact the Madara clone tanked Sealed jutsus without transferring any part of it, you seem to have overlooked that.
You're also only using Madara's quote out of it context, and that's sad. Madara has used Susano'o without any eyes, so he can use any form of it at his will , and you thick headed guys wont reform a manga on a forum dude. It is only your own assumptions and cannot be mentioned as true just because you only do not want it to happen.

Underlined is the weakest argument I've ever seen. You Madara fanboys make the real fans look bad. I already edited the Limbo part, and the bold is ironic coming from you, seriously..


Just saying SS will catch it and that Madara's Susano'o is bigger doesn't mean it's more durable or SS will, Sasuke's PS is far superior to Madara's in every aspect, including durability. Unless you are implying Rikudo enhanced PS < Madara's EMS Susano'o. Give me valid reasons as to how SS is even catching Sasuke let alone defeat him. SS is bisected, with little difficulty, end of story.

No, it's a fact he cannot access his full powers without both eyes, he never used his CT or any other Six Paths techniques until he got his second Rinnegan, he's only used Gedo Mazo. He has also never used PS without both, you are arguing against a well established fact. Don't use Blind Madara's absorption of Amaterasu as a point, as it's not valid.
 
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Underlined is the weakest argument I've ever seen. You Madara fanboys make the real fans look bad. I already edited the Limbo part, and the bold is ironic coming from you, seriously..


Just saying SS will catch it and that Madara's Susano'o is bigger doesn't mean it's more durable or SS will, Sasuke's PS is far superior to Madara's in every aspect, including durability. Unless you are implying Rikudo enhanced PS < Madara's EMS Susano'o. Give me valid reasons as to how SS is even catching Sasuke let alone defeat him. SS is bisected, with little difficulty, end of story.

No, it's a fact he cannot access his full powers without both eyes, he never used his CT or any other Six Paths techniques until he got his second Rinnegan, he's only used Gedo Mazo. He has also never used PS without both, you are arguing against a well established fact. Don't use Blind Madara's absorption of Amaterasu as a point, as it's not valid.

I do not care what you'd call me dude . You're just another forum member , and if being like every dumb ass here is what you want by calling a fapboy someone recognising a character's true power, so be it . For one, don't blame me for not accepting your own assumptions from the Limbo transfer to the Susano'o parts, it has been proved false and the majority's dumb opinions on a forum does not affect the actual manga dude.

These Rikudo chakra debates are the weakest arguments I've seen on my side . You're all debating on something which has not yet been proven true, and if you wants to follow the Sage hype like everyone else, so be it too. Everything depends of the user and Madara's PS has the same destructive capability of Current Sasuke, if not more.

Madara used Limbo clones without any eyes idiot. He also used Preta Path, which is totally valid. Obito had only one Rinnegan yet showed the six paths techniques himself. Madara himself teached Obito the Rinnegan techniques without having any Rinnegan, and evn used BANBUTSU SOZO Without ANY Rinnegan good God. You surprisingly lack enormous of knowledge on Madara for someone pretending to be a real Madara fan lmao. You should read the chapters correctly and stop saying false stuff.
 

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I do not care what you'd call me dude . You're just another forum member , and if being like every dumb ass here is what you want by calling a fapboy someone recognising a character's true power, so be it . For one, don't blame me for not accepting your own assumptions from the Limbo transfer to the Susano'o parts, it has been proved false and the majority's dumb opinions on a forum does not affect the actual manga dude.

These Rikudo chakra debates are the weakest arguments I've seen on my side . You're all debating on something which has not yet been proven true, and if you wants to follow the Sage hype like everyone else, so be it too. Everything depends of the user and Madara's PS has the same destructive capability of Current Sasuke, if not more.

Madara used Limbo clones without any eyes idiot. He also used Preta Path, which is totally valid. Obito had only one Rinnegan yet showed the six paths techniques himself. Madara himself teached Obito the Rinnegan techniques without having any Rinnegan, and evn used BANBUTSU SOZO Without ANY Rinnegan good God. You surprisingly lack enormous of knowledge on Madara for someone pretending to be a real Madara fan lmao. You should read the chapters correctly and stop saying false stuff.

When did Madara use Limbo without eyes? He absorbed Amaterasu passively, it was never stated how or why he was able to absorb it, and he never showed the Preta Path while blind.
When did Obito use all the Six Paths techniques? Madara taught him how to use Gedo Mazo and the Black Rods.

Saying Madara's PS has the same destructive capacity as Sasuke's is going against feats, I'm not even going to reply to you anymore. By the way, Rikudo's chakra does enhance your abilities, your statement is like saying BM and BSM are the same power level. Sasuke's abilities were enhanced, as shown when he used Black Chidori and instantly unlocked a PS that flies and resembles Indra's.

I'm done replying to you, implying Madara's PS is even comparable to Sasuke's without Rikudo's Senjutsu is just ridiculous.
 
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When did Madara use Limbo without eyes? He absorbed Amaterasu passively, it was never stated how or why he was able to absorb it, and he never showed the Preta Path while blind.
When did Obito use all the Six Paths techniques? Madara taught him how to use Gedo Mazo and the Black Rods.

Saying Madara's PS has the same destructive capacity as Sasuke's is going against feats, I'm not even going to reply to you anymore. By the way, Rikudo's chakra does enhance your abilities, your statement is like saying BM and BSM are the same power level. Sasuke's abilities were enhanced, as shown when he used Black Chidori and instantly unlocked a PS that flies and resembles Indra's.

I'm done replying to you, implying Madara's PS is even comparable to Sasuke's without Rikudo's Senjutsu is just ridiculous.

Madara used limbo without any eyes against Sasuke and Tobirama . He also performed Preta Path . Obito used the Six paths dude... Do you not even know this? Anyway . I did not said Senjutsu doesnt enhance anything , Lol , I said you can follow the Sage's hype if you want.
Tenten holding the Sage chakra does not means she would be more powerful than Current Sasuke, to be simple . EMS Madara's PS has shown equal destructives abilities and a way better resistance ; and that's all. Everything depends of the user , and Susano'o power is also influenced by the user's Power and chakra , something EMS Madara far outclasses Current Sasuke. Im also done here , and please do your homework before dismissing others and pretending you're anything like a real fan .
 

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Sasuke gets stomped...Him being a match for Madara is a joke.
 

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Madara used limbo without any eyes against Sasuke and Tobirama . He also performed Preta Path . Obito used the Six paths dude... Do you not even know this? Anyway . I did not said Senjutsu doesnt enhance anything , Lol , I said you can follow the Sage's hype if you want.
Tenten holding the Sage chakra does not means she would be more powerful than Current Sasuke, to be simple . EMS Madara's PS has shown equal destructives abilities and a way better resistance ; and that's all. Everything depends of the user , and Susano'o power is also influenced by the user's Power and chakra , something EMS Madara far outclasses Current Sasuke. Im also done here , and please do your homework before dismissing others and pretending you're anything like a real fan .

Madara had an eye when he faced Tobirama and Sasuke, stop trolling. Tenten can recieve the Juubi and Double Rinnegan, she would still be weaker than Juubito, so that point made no sense.

If Madara had the same destructive capacity with his EMS Susano'o he would have decimated Hashirama, no debate.

I said I wouldn't reply, but you actually just stated Madara used Limbo without his eyes, not having eye contact doesn't mean not having eyes. Obito has only shown the ability to use Human Path, Outer Path and I may be missing one or two, he never had access to all the abilities.
 
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When did Madara use Limbo without eyes? He absorbed Amaterasu passively, it was never stated how or why he was able to absorb it, and he never showed the Preta Path while blind.
When did Obito use all the Six Paths techniques? Madara taught him how to use Gedo Mazo and the Black Rods.

Saying Madara's PS has the same destructive capacity as Sasuke's is going against feats, I'm not even going to reply to you anymore. By the way, Rikudo's chakra does enhance your abilities, your statement is like saying BM and BSM are the same power level. Sasuke's abilities were enhanced, as shown when he used Black Chidori and instantly unlocked a PS that flies and resembles Indra's.

I'm done replying to you, implying Madara's PS is even comparable to Sasuke's without Rikudo's Senjutsu is just ridiculous.

This reply proves you are not a maddy fans

Madara PS is more stronger than Sasukes
 

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This reply proves you are not a maddy fans

Madara PS is more stronger than Sasukes
JJ Madara's PS > Rinnegan Sasuke's PS > EMS Madara's PS


Get out if you can't prove your bs statements.

The only PS Madara has that would be stronger than Sasuke's is if he used it as a Juubi Jinchuriki, otherwise all feats and portrayal are against you.

And lmao, I'm sorry I don't overrate my favorite characters abilities just because I want to. I go by what's been shown, and what's been shown is, Madara's EMS Susano'o is inferior. It's not up for debate, as you can not possibly prove to me that what you're saying is true.
 
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