who is more intelligent minato or itachi

[Owarij]

minato>>>>>>>itachi intellignece feat. lol fu and turune also decode how tobis ninjutsu works but what tobi says? "EXCELLENT OBSERVATION" and what is excellent? lol itachi died never knowing how to beat obito. itachi is no where near the level of minato kakashi shikaku shikamarus genius

Itachi never fought obito.. this is blatantly obvious since he didn't know tobi could go invunerable...



"luckily I managed to keep secrets from Itachi, otherwise i'd be dead"-tobi

 

[Everztar]

Itachi would've surpassed Minato i guess?
But Minato was older, and therefore Wiser... and we have't seen much about Minato at all... but we know that both Minato & Itachi always had a hand in the game without even being there... Minato foresaw so much... and we'll just have to see what happens in these next few chapters... Minato seems so calm!?

 

[yellowxflash]

itachi would over complicate making beans on toast, whilst minato would try to find the quickest way of making it, think about that

 

[johnny335704]

With the screen time given to Minato and given to Itachi, I would go in favor of Minato.
But they both seem to be at nearly same level of intelligence. However with more screen time, Itachi has more feats to show while Minato has only 1 or 2 max to show.

 

[Owarij]

minato>>>>>>>itachi intellignece feat. lol fu and turune also decode how tobis ninjutsu works but what tobi says? "EXCELLENT OBSERVATION" and what is excellent? lol itachi died never knowing how to beat obito. itachi is no where near the level of minato kakashi shikaku shikamarus genius

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and that bug man was from the aburame which are much known for their intelligence. uchihas dont have intelligent feats. they are just called genius but not intelligent genius

Right, find me a scan when that was said about the aburame clan plox, otherwise stop making things up.. Itachi was known as a genius among a clan geniuses, got full a's in academy...
praised by tobi himself

lol at this guy, attempting to say fu and torune are above itachi in intellect

Don't worry, I get it, it's sad that fu and torune can both figure out tobi's ability, because of that it really isn't a huge feat to apply to minato isn't it ?

 

[YellowFlash1]

minato has hype, but that's all... when it comes to feats, other than the tobi thing, what else is noteworthy? we know he's extremely smart, quick on his feet, but he hasn't been in enough fights to do feat by feat comparisons with kakashi or itach

He was able to create his own techniques.. Everyone is cable of doing the rasengan, due to the fact it's pure chakra. Yet he was the only one who came up with a extremely powerful attack using nothing more than the basics.. Sure that is more creativity, although he used his observational skills to create a mini TTB = Rasengan.

He was able to see that Kakashi' Chidori was faulty, thus saving kakashi life. Itachi was able to determine the weakness of pains attacks, although he's probably seen it before, giving that he spend so many years in their company.

Minato also created FTG, untill proven otherwise.

He was able to plan out Naruto's future in minutes, by putting the Kyubbi withing naruto and planned out his future.

He also put their chakra inside him so that they could help him control it, he also gave jiraiya the key to help him... He also stated himself that Naruto would be the savor which is an indication he knew what the future would hold for Naruto and the world.

That's comparable to itachi's little Sasuke plan, which i don't think determines intelligence.

 

[Owarij]

He was able to create his own techniques.. Everyone is cable of doing the rasengan, due to the fact it's pure chakra. Yet he was the only one who came up with a extremely powerful attack using nothing more than the basics.. Sure that is more creativity, although he used his observational skills to create a mini TTB = Rasengan.

He was able to see that Kakashi' Chidori was faulty, thus saving kakashi life. Itachi was able to determine the weakness of pains attacks, although he's probably seen it before, giving that he spend so many years in their company.

Minato also created FTG, untill proven otherwise.

He was able to plan out Naruto's future in minutes, by putting the Kyubbi withing naruto and planned out his future.

He also put their chakra inside him so that they could help him control it, he also gave jiraiya the key to help him... He also stated himself that Naruto would be the savor which is an indication he knew what the future would hold for Naruto and the world.

That's comparable to itachi's little Sasuke plan, which i don't think determines intelligence.

Creating his own techniques? that's your intelligence feat? deidara created the majority of his, is he smater than itachi? lots of ninjas create techniques, it has little to do with the intelligence factor.....

Minato put the kyuubi in his son because he wold TOLD by jiraya the sage prophec.y.. that a student of jiraya will become the saviour of evil..... That night , since he was about to use rds, he knew the saviour wasn't himself.. and realized it was his son.. he literally said this note you.... Tobi would eventually come for the kyuubi... and if he killed it, it would be revived eventually as he said.. meaning the SAFEST place for it , would be inside the child, who he just realized won't die, because he is going to save the world..


That's like Itachi having a prohecy, a cheat sheet on how sasuke's life would go.. ofc he wouldn't make any mistakes.. because itachi used pure strategy with nothing to help him ...thus things didn't always go according to plan... because without a prophecy.. you CANT predict everything.. he couldn't predict kabuto would revive him with edo tensei... many things out of his scope happened that ruined his plans


But if you want to talk about creating jutsu, Itachi created Transcription seal amaterasu, specifically for tobi.. a jutsu obito himself didn't understand.. a fuinjutsu that implants an ability into another and sets a pre activation

He most likely created the exploding bunshin jutsu, considering Asuma's reaction, like he had never seen or heard of something like that before... "The clone exploded?!!?"
...NOTE AGAIN... Itachi after academy, had no teachers to really teach him ninjutsu.. he was ALONE after 13... meaning he taught himself all of that..... Kushina taught Minato almost all her seals.. Minato had a sannin teacher (Jiraya)

The sheer difference in intelligence and talent between the two ninjas is obvious

 

[yellowxflash]

As far as minato creating his own tech as a feat, I would say what makes it unique is the fact is very complicated and requires no hand signs

 

[Owarij]

As far as minato creating his own tech as a feat, I would say what makes it unique is the fact is very complicated and requires no hand signs

Is 13 year old kakashi = minato's intellect then?

There are many ninjas in the manga who create justu and really aren't that smart.. jutsu creation is mostly a creativity thing but you need a fundamental understanding of ninjutsu....

 

[AGoodBoy]

Now both are considered to be geniuses,perhaps the most intelligent in the nv. Minato perhaps gets more credit from his village piers , but for us as readers we get to see the flawless logic of itachi going around soloing everyone, to the extent he was friend zoned by all the normal stupid kids for being hokage level at the grand old age of seven. Who is more clever?

Minato Figured out Tobito's ability in 3 pages while everyone else (including the highly acclaimed master of deduction, kakashi) took chapters.
Itachi Figured out how to stop chibaku tensei when naruto thought it was unbeatable.

Really those are their best feats of superb intelligence. It comes down to which one you think is better. I honestly consider Minato's own better concidering he was under alot of pressure, and pressed for time yet still figured out what a bunch of people didn't.

They're both really smart though.

 

[Owarij]

Minato Figured out Tobito's ability in 3 pages while everyone else (including the highly acclaimed master of deduction, kakashi) took chapters.

Chapters? Kakashi figured out he can go invunerable when attacked and solidify when attacking in a few pages... him and yamato did ...when the team was looking for itachi and tobi interrupted them


That's all minato figured out, all fu and torune figured out... the thing tha ttook kakashi chapters was realizing the dimensions are linked.. and he realized that almost instantly when the warped kunai sliced tobi's mask... gai and naruto didn't even see it, but kakashi, as smart as he was broke down everything

 

[Meee]

Itachi. What has Minato even done to be called Intelligent? beat one dude by blitzing him? Sacrificing his life on a gamble? LOL

 

[DeathandEnvy]

Itachi at the age of seven had a Hokage level of intelligence, Not tryna be a fanboy because i love Minato aswell, but Itachi takes this one.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Chapters? Kakashi figured out he can go invunerable when attacked and solidify when attacking in a few pages... him and yamato did ...when the team was looking for itachi and tobi interrupted them


That's all minato figured out, all fu and torune figured out... the thing tha ttook kakashi chapters was realizing the dimensions are linked.. and he realized that almost instantly when the warped kunai sliced tobi's mask... gai and naruto didn't even see it, but kakashi, as smart as he was broke down everything

You actually seem like an itachi fanboy backtracking through this thread so good for you. Itachi is my second favourite character but it interchanges between 1 and 2, I just don't over hype him. Anyway, Itachi's only big intelligence feat was against nagato. This isn't about who beats who or who has more jutsu.

 

[Owarij]

You actually seem like an itachi fanboy backtracking through this thread so good for you. Itachi is my second favourite character but it interchanges between 1 and 2, I just don't over hype him. Anyway, Itachi's only big intelligence feat was against nagato. This isn't about who beats who or who has more jutsu.

Who brought up any arguments about "who beats who or who has more jutsu" ? the person who brought up creating jutsu as a feat of intelligence was "Yellowflash", And I responded

If you wish I can list you all his other intelligence feats/hype because it seems like you unaware of them

 

[Bogard]

Minato's plans never failed. All Itachi's plans failed. Do the math

 

[AGoodBoy]

Who brought up any arguments about "who beats who or who has more jutsu" ? the person who brought up creating jutsu as a feat of intelligence was "Yellowflash", And I responded

If you wish I can list you all his other intelligence feats/hype because it seems like you unaware of them

List em up Babay. It's been a while anyway. And they've both been hyped as geniuses.

Edit: Then sorry, thought it was you that brought it up while reading through. Mixed it up i guess.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Creating his own techniques? that's your intelligence feat? deidara created the majority of his, is he smater than itachi? lots of ninjas create techniques, it has little to do with the intelligence factor.....

Minato put the kyuubi in his son because he wold TOLD by jiraya the sage prophec.y.. that a student of jiraya will become the saviour of evil..... That night , since he was about to use rds, he knew the saviour wasn't himself.. and realized it was his son.. he literally said this note you.... Tobi would eventually come for the kyuubi... and if he killed it, it would be revived eventually as he said.. meaning the SAFEST place for it , would be inside the child, who he just realized won't die, because he is going to save the world..


That's like Itachi having a prohecy, a cheat sheet on how sasuke's life would go.. ofc he wouldn't make any mistakes.. because itachi used pure strategy with nothing to help him ...thus things didn't always go according to plan... because without a prophecy.. you CANT predict everything.. he couldn't predict kabuto would revive him with edo tensei... many things out of his scope happened that ruined his plans


But if you want to talk about creating jutsu, Itachi created Transcription seal amaterasu, specifically for tobi.. a jutsu obito himself didn't understand.. a fuinjutsu that implants an ability into another and sets a pre activation

He most likely created the exploding bunshin jutsu, considering Asuma's reaction, like he had never seen or heard of something like that before... "The clone exploded?!!?"
...NOTE AGAIN... Itachi after academy, had no teachers to really teach him ninjutsu.. he was ALONE after 13... meaning he taught himself all of that..... Kushina taught Minato almost all her seals.. Minato had a sannin teacher (Jiraya)

The sheer difference in intelligence and talent between the two ninjas is obvious

Their is a difference, giving that he didn't need a teacher because of his Sharingan... Then he got MS, which is as you call a "Cheat Sheet"

Minato wasn't told either, Jiraiya merely informed him.

Itachi's intelligence feat's aren't that great either, Minato was able reach the same level as Itachi, and he didn't even have Sharingan, which is a massive advantage in battle..

Exploding clone may have been his technique, although it fails in compassing. He could have had paper bombs also, giving that Kakashi seemed to know it was about to blow up.

It's clear that Minato talents are above Itachi's... There is no point in arguing, since there will be no winner.

One was born into the second strongest clan that ever existed, with a KKG. The other was born in to a clan with no special traits or KKG, yet he reached the same level if not surpassed him.

Yeah your right.. It's clear who is the real genius.

 

[Owarij]

Minato's plans never failed. All Itachi's plans failed. Do the math

As I said, If itachi had a prophecy of Sasuke' life, He wouldn't fail

Could itachi predict he would get revived by edo tensei and thus kotoamatsuki would affect him? nope
Could Itachi predict tobi's mangekyou ability? nope

They failed because noone can predict things they don't know, not even shikaku


Thank god Minato new his son would be the saviour of the world.. that way even if he put the kyuubi in him, he wouldn't die

Their is a difference, giving that he didn't need a teacher because of his Sharingan

Good god sir, how did sharingan make itachi the genius he was? might I point out obito?
Kabuto made it clear that Itachi was a GENIUS among a clan of Geniuses


Having sharingan doesn't at random make you extremely intelligent

Kakashi seemed to know it was about to blow up.

It was a normal clone without evenely distributed chakra.. he could tell with sharingan that it was a clone

One was born into the second strongest clan that ever existed, with a KKG. The other was born in to a clan with no special traits or KKG, yet he reached the same level if not surpassed him.

One was born excelling so much that his teacher proclaimed he barely taught Itachi anything... from that he left as a 13 year old child with noone to teach him anything.. he taught and created his own jutsu and ended up on a level at 17years that could "play with 3 of konohas best jounins" databook 2

The other, born excelling, groomed by a legendary sannin, and was taught almost everything he knows by Kushina....

I fail to understand what "sharingan giving an advantage in battle" has to do with this thread? we're talking about intelligence aren't we? sharingan doesn't aid a ninjas intellectual ability..

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Minato is smart but Itachi is smarter.