who is faster ? 7th gate Gai or post Rikudo power up SM Naruto ?

[KidGamer65]

What the hell are you taking about? He blocked naruto's punch like how he blocked gai's ,but the difference is that ,gai inhuman movements forced madara to keep stepping back and blocking without even having a time to counter attack except for the instant when gai stopped punching to perform hiudora

From madara's expression , reaction and manga's portration for both ,gai was way faster
See ,madara just felt gai when he was just about to punch him

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While madara saw naruto coming easily and brought his TSB ball ,formed it to a stick and blocked

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Not to mention that ,JJ madara who faced 7th gate gai was healthy and standing up ,while the one who faced naruto was quite weakened and sitting on the ground

Lol....not even sure if serious.

1. Naruto and Gai both Shunshin toward JJ Madara, but in Gai's case, Madara is fast enough to evade/parry Gai's attacks, while he wasn't fast enough to evade Naruto's attack, thus all he could was block. The only time he evaded was when Naruto used YRS, then Naruto dodged Limbo (Which is equal to Madara in speed) and tagged him with YRS, faster than Madara could evade. Him sitting down isn't an excuse when he was sitting when Naruto used YRS, yet still managed to jump away. His health isn't an excuse when he said that was all because Naruto got more powerful, not because of his condition. Madara had to keep jumping back so he didn't get tagged, doesn't mean that Gai's movement speed surpasses his or Naruto's.

2. Madara's facial expression isn't proof of shit, unless you want to tell me that 7G Gai>>8G Gai in speed.

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Madara reacted to and blocked Eighth Gate Gai twice, in the same manner that he blocked Naruto after he got Hagoromo's powers, and Madara showed little surprise, does that mean that 7G Gai>8G Gai in speed? Uh, no.

3. Naruto evaded Limbo, forced Madara to block instead of evading, and tagged YRS while 7G Gai was being evaded/parried by Madara on foot, without any kind of Shunshin.

7G Gai isn't faster than Naruto. Not a chance in hell.

 

[wael reda]

Lol....not even sure if serious.

Yes I am serious Lol

1. Naruto and Gai both Shunshin toward JJ Madara, but in Gai's case, Madara is fast enough to evade/parry Gai's attacks, while he wasn't fast enough to evade Naruto's attack, thus all he could was block.

Madara easily saw naruto coming ,he could have evaded if he was standing up ,also blocking=/= can't evade if the manga showed him easily react,bring his TSB ball ,form it and block

On the other hand ,the manga clearly showed madara react to gai just when gai was under him about to punch(see madara's sight direction),madara also blocked gai's first punch and didn't shunshin away Lol
The rest wasn't even shunshin but successive punches

The only time he evaded was when Naruto used YRS, then Naruto dodged Limbo (Which is equal to Madara in speed) and tagged him with YRS, faster than Madara could evade. Him sitting down isn't an excuse when he was sitting when Naruto used YRS, yet still managed to jump away.

Naruto didn't evade madara's limbo with his shunshin ,so that doesn't make his shunshin faster than gai's

This is the YRS feats not naruto's shunshin's,also that was flying madara not standing madara

His health isn't an excuse when he said that was all because Naruto got more powerful, not because of his condition. Madara had to keep jumping back so he didn't get tagged, doesn't mean that Gai's movement speed surpasses his or Naruto's.

No ,his health and condition then play a role here ,madara himself said "is that because I havent fully regenerated"but then he said "no he got stronger " which means he just realised that ,even if he isn't full healthy yet ,naruto shouldnt have done that unless he had got stronger ,that doesn't delete the fact that madara wasn't full healthy yet and that played a role here

2. Madara's facial expression isn't proof of shit, unless you want to tell me that 7G Gai>>8G Gai in speed.

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Here ,madara reacted just when gai was up in front of him ,that isnt how madara reacted to naruto ,it is more like how he reacted to 7th gate gai ,and that can be explained that 8th gate gai doesn't start with his top speed but he acquires more speed at the other stages ,which means he wasnt way faster than 7th gate at that stage

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That is the air canon not gai ,not that only but madara couldn't react to what came after that and he was stomped by the rest of EE

Madara reacted to and blocked Eighth Gate Gai twice, in the same manner that he blocked Naruto after he got Hagoromo's powers, and Madara showed little surprise, does that mean that 7G Gai>8G Gai in speed? Uh, no.

I already Replied to that part

3. Naruto evaded Limbo, forced Madara to block instead of evading, and tagged YRS while 7G Gai was being evaded/parried by Madara on foot, without any kind of Shunshin.

I replied to that part too

7G Gai isn't faster than Naruto. Not a chance in hell.

With feats ,he is faster

 

[Sageflash]

This Naruto is definitely faster than Gai and dominates the 7th Gate.

 

[Bolt Rules]

Itachi by far

 

[TRE MERCER]

L0l Naruto is much faster. SM Moon Naruto speed is on par with 8th gate Gai stop the none sense people. ​

 

[Conspirator.]

Naruto is much faster of course.

 

[wael reda]

L0l Naruto is much faster. SM Moon Naruto speed is on par with 8th gate Gai stop the none sense people. ​

With what feats ,he is much faster than 7 the gate gai !!?
This version of naruto is no where to 8 the gate gai's speed Lol

 

[TRE MERCER]

With what feats ,he is much faster than 7 the gate gai !!?
This version of naruto is no where to 8 the gate gai's speed Lol

Why not? Gai never blitz Juubi Jin Madz im pretty sure this Naruto could. Let's look at the speed difference from KM to Sm it isn't much honestly. Considering Madara couldn't counter Sasuke S/T ability while Kaguya could and she was blitz by RM Naruto. I really don't see why this version of Naruto isn't on 8th gate Gai level of speed.

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[Bronze]

Gai .

 

[Seventh Sama]

I just read this is 7th gate gai. Naruto is faster since he actually blitz madara. (

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Juudara kept up with seventh gate gai casually. (

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[elsepa]

Gai is faster.

 

[wael reda]

Why not? Gai never blitz Juubi Jin Madz im pretty sure this Naruto could. Let's look at the speed difference from KM to Sm it isn't much honestly. Considering Madara couldn't counter Sasuke S/T ability while Kaguya could and she was blitz by RM Naruto. I really don't see why this version of Naruto isn't on 8th gate Gai level of speed.

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First about 7th gate gai and sm naruto :

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Here you can see madara easily react to naruto's shunshin ,bring his TSB ball ,form it to a stick and block though he wasn't full healthy and standing like how he was against gai

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But here ,the manga showed madara react only when gai was under him about to punch him but madara blocked it and gai kept punching a(no shunshin anymore) and madara kept retreating and blocking

Anyone with a brain and objectivity should realise whose shunshin was faster after looking at those two scans

About 8th gate gai and sm naruto :
Sm naruto already couldn't blitz weakened madara who was sitting on his ass ,so any assumptions from you that he can blitz jj madara is invalid and remains assumptions ,also km naruto should be much faster than sm naruto
When the manga showed that only night moth gai distort the space while moving ,it became clear who is the fastest in NV aside from s/t users

 

[wael reda]

I just read this is 7th gate gai. Naruto is faster since he actually blitz madara. (

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Juudara kept up with seventh gate gai casually. (

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What is wrong with you people!!?
Do you call what naruto did a blitz!!?
Madara easily reacted,brought his tsb ball,formed it and blocked ,while in gai's case ,the manga only showed madara react to gai when gai was under him about to punch ,but madara blocked ,the rest wasn't even a shunshin from gai but just successive punches

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Leaning towards Naruto. Remember, he was showing the speed to put Madara on the defensive seemingly more than Guy.

 

[wael reda]

Leaning towards Naruto. Remember, he was showing the speed to put Madara on the defensive seemingly more than Guy.

It is completely the other way around Lol

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It is completely the other way around Lol

No it isn't. Guy didn't accomplish anything that Naruto didn't do later. They're close in speed, but Naruto's superior.

 

[wael reda]

No it isn't. Guy didn't accomplish anything that Naruto didn't do later. They're close in speed, but Naruto's superior.

Yhea because the manga showed madara easily react to sm naruto while it showed him only react when gai was under him about to punch

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Yhea because the manga showed madara easily react to sm naruto while it showed him only react when gai was under him about to punch

No proof of that. Madara was looking down even when Guy was activating it and not moving, and was on the ground.

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Meaning that he had to have jumped back, and therefore, reacted to Guy's 7th gate speed before he reached him.

 

[wael reda]

No proof of that. Madara was looking down even when Guy was activating it and not moving, and was on the ground.

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Meaning that he had to have jumped back, and therefore, reacted to Guy's 7th gate speed before he reached him.

Lol,madara was clearly looking forward when gai was still activating the gates
But in the last left panel ,he clearly looks down now ,also he didn't evade the first punch ,he blocked it ,the rest wasn't even shunshin but successive punches ,that is a feat for gai's striking speed

 

[super yang]

well, since gai can't use shunshin/ninjutsu while in gates...