Who has more potential?

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It's difficult to choose, one has greater firepower while the other one has less but lasts longer.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

It's difficult to choose, one has greater firepower while the other one has less but lasts longer.

if you were Hokage and you was the only ninja around to protect your village from a village invasion (Kumo for example), which Obito would u rathe be?

 

[Observer]

Ok, not PS i take that back...i meant Susanoo and all its levels except PS



It doesn't necessarily, but his other abilities definitely puts him in the winners bracket. i only wrote that because i thought u were saying 1MS + Zetsu can defeat a DMS Obito with no zetsu in a 1 v 1



Thats exactly what i mean by potential. DMS is OP but it eventually fades out. So ask yourself if you was a ninja in the NV would you rather have Obito's DMS that'll eventually blind you (you ofc control how often you use it) or be Obito with 1 MS + Hashicells

Hmm, I get it. But why won't you let DMS Obito also have Senju DNA? DMS Obito is a straight upgrade from 1MS in every way, but without Senju DNA it's kind of a tie to me. From 1MS - extreme durability, outlasting and you'll never be blinded, From DMS side - a lot of firepower, both defensive and offensive capabilities, but you would still be blinded. Potential-wise and by feats I would pick DMS Obito, but without Senju DNA.. Well, unless I, as DMS Obito, can find some spare Hashiroids to attach to my body, I won't activate my DMS.

 

[Observer]

It's difficult to choose, one has greater firepower while the other one has less but lasts longer.

Exactly.

 

[Ansatsuken]

if you were Hokage and you was the only ninja around to protect your village from a village invasion (Kumo for example), which Obito would u rathe be?

I answer you for him

SIR DERP OBITO

::sdo::sdo2::sdo3:

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I answer you for him

SIR DERP OBITO :sdo::sdo2::sdo3:

Now that's OP :sdo:

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Hmm, I get it. But why won't you let DMS Obito also have Senju DNA? DMS Obito is a straight upgrade from 1MS in every way, but without Senju DNA it's kind of a tie to me. From 1MS - extreme durability, outlasting and you'll never be blinded, From DMS side - a lot of firepower, both defensive and offensive capabilities, but you would still be blinded. Potential-wise and by feats I would pick DMS Obito, but without Senju DNA.. Well, unless I, as DMS Obito, can find some spare Hashiroids to attach to my body, I won't activate my DMS.

Thats the whole point of the thread lol

DMS Obito with Hash cells is beyond OP, thats just unfair. we gotta balance it

 

[Rohan]

I answer you for him

SIR DERP OBITO

::sdo::sdo2::sdo3:

Wrong !

ARCHANGEL DERPIEL is more OP ! :sdo3:

 

[Observer]

Thats the whole point of the thread lol

DMS Obito with Hash cells is beyond OP, thats just unfair. we gotta balance it

Well, then DMS Obito takes the cake in this thread if he manages to find spare zetsu flesh.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Now that's OP :sdo:

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NV RIGHTEOUS RULER​

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Wrong !

ARCHANGEL DERPIEL is more OP ! :sdo3:

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[SumnNarutoRelated]

Well, then DMS Obito takes the cake in this thread if he manages to find spare zetsu flesh.

unpermissable

still waiting for someone to answer who would they rather be if they had to protect an entire village by themselves from a Cloud Village invasion, DMS Obs or 1MS + Zets Obs?

 

[Rohan]

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Too Derpy for me. :sdo:

 

[Observer]

unpermissable

still waiting for someone to answer who would they rather be if they had to protect an entire village by themselves from a Cloud Village invasion, DMS Obs or 1MS + Zets Obs?

What I said was potential-wise. Battle-wise, if Obito had to protect an entire village, it would be better for him to pick DMS form and push himself to the limit, thus sacrificing himself at the cost of the village, which I bet he would do without hesitation, if we are talking about In-Character Obito, of course. However, that's only if he has PS with DMS. If he doesnt have PS, and the only new feat the he possesses is sniping, then I would go with 1MS Obito due to mokuton.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Ok, not PS i take that back...i meant Susanoo and all its levels except PS



It doesn't necessarily, but his other abilities definitely puts him in the winners bracket. i only wrote that because i thought u were saying 1MS + Zetsu can defeat a DMS Obito with no zetsu in a 1 v 1



Thats exactly what i mean by potential. DMS is OP but it eventually fades out. So ask yourself if you was a ninja in the NV would you rather have Obito's DMS that'll eventually blind you (you ofc control how often you use it) or be Obito with 1 MS + Hashicells

Well no, initially that's not what I'm referring to.
What I find is that with dms, there's only mangekyo dependency while with Hashirama's tissue/chakra added on to the Uchiha power will create new variety of attacks while enhancing the original one to great lengths. You get where I'm coming from?

Basically this:

-loses that mokuton capability in cqc.
-loses the ability to spam, limiting him to fight as long as ms Sasuke/Itachi did
-loses izanagi or any yin yang release capabilities
-loses the Gedo mazou power and other six path ability he can preform due to combined inherited powers.

On the plus side he gains Susanoo, long range snipe, and dimensional sync.

So it's about weighing the pros with cons and seeing which one is much more effective. Kinda subjective.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Too Derpy for me. :sdo:

SSJ-Level Derpy

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[Observer]

On the plus side he gains Susanoo, long range snipe, and dimensional sync.

So it's about weighing the pros with cons and seeing which one is much more effective. Kinda subjective.

To be honest, now that OP has mentioned that PS is restricted, and Obito gains a normal Susano'o.. I don't really find any other versions of Susano'o except PS powerful enough to defend an entire village, since he has a limit on his MS. This means that he needs to finish the fighting quicker if he doesnt want to be blinded too fast, which is why PS is perfect for this job, because one slash of it's sword is enough to torn in pieces everyone who's going to approach the village.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

What I said was potential-wise. Battle-wise, if Obito had to protect an entire village, it would be better for him to pick DMS form and push himself to the limit, thus sacrificing himself at the cost of the village, which I bet he would do without hesitation, if we are talking about In-Character Obito, of course. However, that's only if he has PS with DMS. If he doesnt have PS, and the only new feat the he possesses is sniping, then I would go with 1MS Obito due to mokuton.

that makes perfect sense but nah he doesn't have PS. so would you choose then?

No PS but has Snipe, Phase, Double Transport Speed and reg Susanoo but blindness

or

Unlimited MS, Mouton variety and stronger, healthier body

Well no, initially that's not what I'm referring to.
What I find is that with dms, there's only mangekyo dependency while with Hashirama's tissue/chakra added on to the Uchiha power will create new variety of attacks while enhancing the original one to great lengths. You get where I'm coming from?

Basically this:

-loses that mokuton capability in cqc.
-loses the ability to spam, limiting him to fight as long as ms Sasuke/Itachi did
-loses izanagi or any yin yang release capabilities
-loses the Gedo mazou power and other six path ability he can preform due to combined inherited powers.

On the plus side he gains Susanoo, long range snipe, and dimensional sync.

So it's about weighing the pros with cons and seeing which one is much more effective. Kinda subjective.

yes i get you and yes it is ENTIRELY subjective. thats why i put a poll, I'm interested in hearing who would choose who and why?

from what i can gather from you, it seems you'd rather pick 1MS Obs mostly because of Mokuton variety. thats cool.

i think ill pick 1MS Ob because of Hashiroids

 

[Ansatsuken]

Mokuton Obito doesnt have snipe and Susanoo but he have Mokuton to compensate the lost of other abilities. He also still retained 2 of the standard abilities of his MS. Intangibility and Kamui travel.

He just losing a snipe ability and Susanoo. But people like Obito doesnt need Susanoo as he have other MS tech to be use as defense/escaping.

Hashiroids is a big plus.

He clearly very comfortable with what he had in this manga.

If Rinnegan is also with him, it a very big bonus.

 

[Observer]

that makes perfect sense but nah he doesn't have PS. so would you choose then?

No PS but has Snipe, Phase, Double Transport Speed and reg Susanoo but blindness

or

Unlimited MS, Mouton variety and stronger, healthier body



yes i get you and yes it is ENTIRELY subjective. thats why i put a poll, I'm interested in hearing who would choose who and why?

from what i can gather from you, it seems you'd rather pick 1MS Obs mostly because of Mokuton variety. thats cool.

i think ill pick 1MS Ob because of Hashiroids

The problem with that is that Susano'o drains much more chakra than Kamui from the user. To protect the village Obito needs a lot of firepower and he also needs to be quick, which Susano'o is perfect for, BUT.. It is still incomplete and pretty small, and since he doesn't have Amaterasu nor Tsukuyomi, he will obviously have to keep spamming the Susano'o as it's his only beastly-firepowered technique, but the problem is that it's still not enough - it's not PS, it cannot wipe out a large portion of area with enemies and does not possess enough field scan, and remember, that if Obito doesn't want to end up dying, he needs to be very quick. Wasting more than an hour slashing everyone with Susano'o will basically kill his eyes, since he doesn't have Mokuton to compensate in CQC or medium-range encounters. This will eventually blind him just like it was with Sasuke ( 3 big fights and rip his eyes, I think that defending an entire village could equal to those big long fights that Sasuke went through ). So, my point is: unless Obito has PS, it's not a good choice to pick him for defending an entire village. Dimension synching is also pretty much useless because no one in NV has space-time ninjutsu similar to Obito's except Kaguya and Sasuke.

But meh, of course, if those who attack the village are power-wise on Orochimaru and his hidden sound ninjas village infiltration level, then Susano'o wouldn't even be needed, lmao. Taijutsu and katon with Kamui combo would do it.