Who got the better gifts of Hagoromo; uchiha sasuke or uzumaki naruto

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<div class="bbWrapper">What do you mean Sasuke got ameno? He got Rinnegan and his unique ability is Ameno. <br /> <br /> From my point of view Sasuke actually got nothing from Hagoromo, since he alrdy had Senju DNA from Hashirama and Kabuto, so only thing he got is Yin seal/six paths chakra - while Naruto got RSM/Yang seal/six paths chakra</div>
 

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What do you mean Sasuke got ameno? He got Rinnegan and his unique ability is Ameno.

From my point of view Sasuke actually got nothing from Hagoromo, since he alrdy had Senju DNA from Hashirama and Kabuto, so only thing he got is Yin seal/six paths chakra - while Naruto got RSM/Yang seal/six paths chakra
Oh you're right. Naruto got a sensing ability surpassing Madara, gudodamas, a cloak increasing his reaction, reflexes, and let's him spam body flicker.








In short, base Sasuke was above Naruto; after these boosts.







Naruto had to rely on Ameno to blitz Kaguya.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21702417" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21702417">Uverdore9 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Oh you're right. Naruto got a sensing ability surpassing Madara, gudodamas, a cloak increasing his reaction, reflexes, and let's him spam body flicker.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> In short, base Sasuke was above Naruto; after these boosts.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Naruto had to rely on Ameno to blitz Kaguya. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I mean right? Naruto after all the powers up from Hagoromo and tailed beasts + RSM + Kurama and finally was able to be equal with Sasuke...smh <img src="/images/smilies/Onion 21.gif" class="smilie" alt=":sigar:" title="MrCool :sigar:" data-shortname=":sigar:" /></div>
 

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I mean right? Naruto after all the powers up from Hagoromo and tailed beasts + RSM + Kurama and finally was able to be equal with Sasuke...smh :sigar:
Yeah that clone couldn't do anything without ameno.







Look at the sfx; they're both using Space-Time techniques.



Clone couldn't blitz her before and never will so he borrowed ameno through the yin and yang seal link.




Yet some fanboys claim he blitzed Kaguya; lmfao such a joke.



Sasuke>>>>>>>> Naruto in speed(though Naruto uses body flicker yet cannot outspeed Sasuke).

They're never equal in speed.





Sakura is faster than Naruto by feats.
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21702442" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21702442">Uverdore9 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yeah that clone couldn't do anything without ameno.<br /> <br /> <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> <br /> <br /> Look at the sfx; they're both using Space-Time techniques.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Clone couldn't blitz her before and never will so he borrowed ameno through the yin and yang seal link.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Yet some fanboys claim he blitzed Kaguya; lmfao such a joke.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Sasuke&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Naruto in speed(though Naruto uses body flicker yet cannot outspeed Sasuke).<br /> <br /> They're never equal in speed.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Sakura is faster than Naruto by feats. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>The sfx image is the same, but are you sure that Sasuke used Ameno right there? Sasuke was suppose to switch places with Naruto with something but there was nothing there? <br /> <br /> Naruto was never faster then Sasuke but with Kurama he can keep up<br /> <br /> and on Sasuke image that was speed blitz not Ameno <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div></div>
 
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The sfx image is the same, but are you sure that Sasuke used Ameno right there? Sasuke was suppose to switch places with Naruto with something but there was nothing there?

Naruto was never faster then Sasuke but with Kurama he can keep up

and on Sasuke image that was speed blitz not Ameno
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Yeah I'm sure six paths techniques can be transfered through the yin and yang seals as they resonate with each other according to Zetsu.




And as you saw in the SfX, only space-time techniques've that type of sfx. Look at this scan to cement the similarities.










Tobirama using space-time ninjutsu had same sfx as Naruto blitzing kaguya.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21702491" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21702491">Uverdore9 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yeah I'm sure six paths techniques can be transfered through the yin and yang seals as they resonate with each other according to Zetsu.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> And as you saw in the SfX, only space-time techniques've that type of sfx. Look at this scan to cement the similarities.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Tobirama using space-time ninjutsu had same sfx as Naruto blitzing kaguya. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Wait , you're right... my bad, he could easily teleport Naruto just like he did with Madara or sword... btw can you post me full image of Sasuke and Kaguya from this ? <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> or tell me which chapter is it</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21702490" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21702490">Styles said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <b><span style="color: #0000FF">Logically Naruto since he got power from Obito and the bijuu's also on top of the power Hagoromo gave him.</span></b> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Naruto got so much more power then Sasuke its not even debatable<br /> <br /> Naruto got chakra from each tailed beast (which is always there) + their special abilities which he used it but the chakra is still there mixed with his body just like Kurama's + power ups from Hagoromo</div>
 
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Wait , you're right... my bad, he could easily teleport Naruto just like he did with Madara or sword... btw can you post me full image of Sasuke and Kaguya from this ?
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SFx is the exact same as Tobirama and Sasuke's scan.




No doubt he used ameno.
 

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Not counting seals and rikudou chakra

Sasuke got :

- Heavily restricted Rinnegan with 1 jutsu in the beginning

Naruto got :
- 9 bijuu's
- 9 TSB
- Understanding of all things
- RSM which :
- enhances speed
- enhances strength
- enhances sensing
- enhances durability
- grants flying

It's amazing how Sasuke managed to stay equal with Naruto while the latter got tons of buffs. I mean after all he cut a Juubi Jin in half with a chidori spear which is an early part 2 hebi jutsu. I guess Sasuke doesn't need so many different power ups to stay relevant ;)
 

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Naruto got so much more power then Sasuke its not even debatable

Naruto got chakra from each tailed beast (which is always there) + their special abilities which he used it but the chakra is still there mixed with his body just like Kurama's + power ups from Hagoromo
Agreed. That's why Sasuke solos.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21702548" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21702548">Uverdore9 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <div class="bbCodeSpoiler"> <button type="button" class="bbCodeSpoiler-button button" data-xf-click="toggle" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Click to reveal or hide spoiler"><span class="button-text"> <span>Spoiler</span> </span></button> <div class="bbCodeSpoiler-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--spoiler"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div></div> </div> </div> </div><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> SFx is the exact same as Tobirama and Sasuke's scan.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> No doubt he used ameno. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I meant Sasuke and Kaguya not Naruto and Kaguya ... <br /> <br /> But this...sure did...<br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div><br /> <br /> or at least tell me which chapter is it, i will see for myself</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21702604" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21702604">Nick01 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <img src="/images/smilies/go.envolve.com.gif" class="smilie" alt=":lmao:" title="LMAO :lmao:" data-shortname=":lmao:" /> @ the above Uchiha faps and their trolling.<br /> <br /> Sasuke got tons of buffs(including the 9 Bijuus) and yet couldn't best a holding back exhausted Naruto. <br /> <br /> Sasuke fought to kill and win, yet Naruto only fought to match, not to kill and win. <br /> <br /> So it makes sense that Naruto is without a doubt the superior being/Shinboi. <img src="/images/smilies/Onion 21.gif" class="smilie" alt=":sigar:" title="MrCool :sigar:" data-shortname=":sigar:" /><br /> <br /> Also @ Uverdore9, Ameno wasn't used at all. That was a pure speed blitz.<br /> <br /> Naruto is just too fast. <img src="/images/smilies/win.gif" class="smilie" alt=":win:" title="Win :win:" data-shortname=":win:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>What buffs? All that chakra he used for Susano'o was spent on Indra's arrow, other then that, im not even sure why Sasuke used everything for one attack when he was clearly stronger with Bijuu Susano'o. + Naruto also had 9 bijuu powers up just like Sasuke<br /> Sasuke fought to kill, yet he always stopped mid way to actually give the final strike</div>
 

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Great replies thus far.


Now; the question is who used it better? Thier said powers?
Sasuke use was better even though he mostly only used Ameno and Kurama pretty much confirmed Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan. That allowed Naruto the ability to equal him to some degree. Naruto on the other hand was getting assists from the tailed beasts for his rasen shuriken etc.
 
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Not counting seals and rikudou chakra

Sasuke got :

- Heavily restricted Rinnegan with 1 jutsu in the beginning

Naruto got :
- 9 bijuu's
- 9 TSB
- Understanding of all things
- RSM which :
- enhances speed
- enhances strength
- enhances sensing
- enhances durability
- grants flying

It's amazing how Sasuke managed to stay equal with Naruto while the latter got tons of buffs. I mean after all he cut a Juubi Jin in half with a chidori spear which is an early part 2 hebi jutsu. I guess Sasuke doesn't need so many different power ups to stay relevant ;)
Sasuke's Rinnegan wasn't restricted. IE: He was able to easily see Madara's limb clones and he wasn't effected by IT. Sasuke like Naruto was both new at using their power. Neither one had mastered their power. That's the reason Naruto was still using the rasengan most of the battle.

Kishi had Naruto show off most of his power during his battle with Madara and Kaguya. While Sasuke showed off most his powers during his battle with Naruto.

Sasuke gained a huge boost in power by just having Sage's chakra flow through is body. Why else do you think Sasuke was able to catch up to Madara. Before the war Sasuke wasn't even faster that A, but now he has speed that allows him to fight Juubi Madara.

When Sasuke fought Naruto he had more charka from all the tail beast, eye jutsu that automatically gave him infor and allowed him to instantly learn/gain new jutsu and still lost.
 
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Sasuke's Rinnegan wasn't restricted. IE: He was able to easily see Madara's limb clones and he wasn't effected by IT. Sasuke like Naruto was both new at using their power. Neither one had mastered their power. That's the reason Naruto was still using the rasengan most of the battle.

Kishi had Naruto show off most of his power during his battle with Madara and Kaguya. While Sasuke showed off most his powers during his battle with Naruto.

Sasuke gained a huge boost in power by just having Sage's chakra flow through is body. Why else do you think Sasuke was able to catch up to Madara. Before the war Sasuke wasn't even faster that A, but now he has speed that allows him to fight Juubi Madara.

Rinnegan
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Sasuke got tons of buffs(including the 9 Bijuus) and yet couldn't best a holding back exhausted Naruto.
- What buffs?
- He took away bijuu's from Naruto by force. Can't blame him tho, seeing how Naruto was gifted more, Sasuke had to make it even by himself.

I always laugh whenever I see this argument "Naruto with 0.5 bijuu > Sasuke with 8.5". Yeah problem is, it's not like Sasuke became jinchuuriki of those bijuu's, it's not like he was using their special abilities, it's not like they were giving him advices. He used them only as pure chakra replenishment. Even his final attack was completely converted to raiton chakra instead of being mixed of 8 bijuu's different chakra natures.

Even then, it's not like he had them and was using them for a whole fight. Bijuu's were used only like in the middle of the fight and that's it. Sasuke couldn't use them later on since he couldn't control Rinnegan.

Sasuke fought to kill and win, yet Naruto only fought to match, not to kill and win.
And what does this have to do with the thread?
Sasuke fought to kill and Naruto fought to survive. You don't hold back when you're fighting for your life, unless you're planning to lose and die on purpose(Itachi).
 
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