Who could Neji beat any akatsuki members?

[DrProof]

Neji imploded Kidomaru's spider just by pumping it with Chakra. If he can cause a giant spider to blow up within seconds, normal humans would take even less time. Hidan, Kakuzu, Konan all go poof.

Get your facts right.

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Neji never made her explode, Kidomaru tactically made her pounce on Neji so that he could use Gentle Fist to feel up her insides so the silk she was containing would cover a larger range, and trap Neji cancelling out any possible rotations he would use, as Neji was having a hard time with prior webs.

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All Neji did was insert enough chakra to expand her already full body of silk, and made it expand (the reason for the bulges in her body, and the expanded silk covering Neji).

Kakuzu, nor Konan are getting tagged with that nonsense. And Hidan despite being able to dodge, would endure it to deliver a fatal blow thanks to the lack of intel Neji would have on him.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

Yeah, the Byakugan has better insight than the Sharingan, but here's the thing, the Sharingan can see chakra, and Kakashi was still unable to see through Kakuzu's mask, only being able to determine the nature of his jutsu by the sign Kakuzu made. If the Sharingan couldn't even rely on its chakra distinguishing ability, the Byakugan would remain ineffective as well. No evidence is provided to say otherwise.

the byakugan sees chakra better than sharigan as it can see the chakra point while the sharigan only see the flow so i think neji has a better chance aganist kakazu than kakashi

 

[Made in Heaven]

Love the reach.

All this talk of Kidomaru using Gentle Fist to make the threads bigger is speculation on your part. Only fact here is that Neji pumped it with chakra via Gentle Fist, causing it to explode.

 

[DrProof]

the byakugan sees chakra better than sharigan as it can see the chakra point while the sharigan only see the flow so i think neji has a better chance aganist kakazu than kakashi

Yeah, I already noted the Byakugan has superior vision. But implying he can see through Kakuzu's mask when Sharingan couldn't at all, and there being no such feats to provide any educated verdict, the Byakugan cannot see through Kakuzu's mask until canonically shown.

 

[Mellanoma]

the byakugan sees chakra better than sharigan as it can see the chakra point while the sharigan only see the flow so i think neji has a better chance aganist kakazu than kakashi

Yes! the Sig! by far the funniest shit ive read all year.

Kakuza's aerial mode would wreck Neji.
Nevermind if he seperate all 4 of his mask and just bombard from distance. Neji has no speed and his only counter is rotation which im more than sure Kakuza would wreck with all 4 attacks hitting him

Love the reach.

All this talk of Kidomaru using Gentle Fist to make the threads bigger is speculation on your part. Only fact here is that Neji pumped it with chakra via Gentle Fist, causing it to explode.

That is what happened. you do know Neji got shot in the back shortly after that right?

 

[ToshiZO]

the byakugan sees chakra better than sharigan as it can see the chakra point while the sharigan only see the flow so i think neji has a better chance aganist kakazu than kakashi

So let me get this straight.

Just because he can see the masks chakra, he has a better chance than Kakashi who is a vastly superior fighter? You think Kakashi wouldn't take down the masks if he could? He wasn't even given any breathing room to try anything, he was getting overwhelmed.

 

[DrProof]

All this talk of Kidomaru using Gentle Fist to make the threads bigger is speculation on your part. Only fact here is that Neji pumped it with chakra via Gentle Fist to cause it to explode.

Lol... Read.

"Finally found a way to take you down."

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Proceeds to utilize said strategy to stop any future rotations...

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If it were speculation, the attack wouldn't have been so well timed (the sticky gold projectiles, and the silk webbing were executed at the same time proving such).

If Neji caused her to explode why are her remains not littering the screen? It's not hard to see what really happened.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Scan of Kidomaru saying anything about using Neji's Gentle Fist Chakra to power his spider? And even if this is what Kidomaru was planning, Neji was still planning to pump the spider with Chakra and cause it to explode. Even if you are right in this regard, it only means Kidomaru outsmarted Neji, doesn't change the fact that Gentle Fist was used to explode the creature from the inside out. Kidomaru's plan doesn't change Neji's intent.

 

[DrProof]

Scan of Kidomaru saying anything about using Neji's Gentle Fist Chakra to power his spider? And even if this is what Kidomaru was planning, Neji was still planning to pump the spider with Chakra and cause it to explode. Even if you are right in this regard, it only means Kidomaru outsmarted Neji, doesn't change the fact that Gentle Fist was used to explode the creature from the inside out.

Neji's chakra didn't empower her... It merely expanded the webbing in order to trap him so that rotation couldn't be used, and Kidomaru could use his sticky gold projectiles to pierce Neji effectively. It's not difficult to read, and take in the facts that such was Kidomaru's plan from start to finish.

Gentle Fist doesn't explode people... It inserts their chakra into their targets damaging their internals. We already know this. I was simply correcting you saying she exploded when she obviously unsummoned herself (which is reason for the silk webbing being in her form after her dispersion).

And as I said before, to use Gentle Fist, and insert his chakra into the targets, he has to be fast enough. Kakuzu > Neji in speed. Hidan > Neji in speed. Konan > Neji by being aerial, and being made of paper. Gentle Fist will not effect her paper form.

 

[Ambivalence]

I'm not here to prove you wrong or to show I am right. There's no right or wrong answers here.

Lol As if, pal.

OT: Zetsu definitely, loses to all the rest including Konan and Hidan who mostly win because of how badly suited for fighting them Neji's style is.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I know she unsummoned, but that doesn't change the fact that we clearly see her exploding internally after Neji uses the Gentle Fist on her. She disappears AFTER that.

 

[DrProof]

I know she unsummoned, but that doesn't change the fact that we clearly see her exploding internally after Neji uses the Gentle Fist on her. She disappears AFTER that.

If you follow correctly, you'd understand Gentle Fist wasn't the direct cause of her intumesce; it was her silk. The chakra inserted into her merely caused the silk inside of her to expand. Just like a hot air balloon, when you add air, it expands because the balloon is light in texture. This applies here, Neji's chakra = air, her insides/silk expansion = hot air balloon.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Holy hell it isn't that hard to get. Here I'll oversimplify it.

Show me scans of Byakugan seeing through Kakuzu's mask. If it can't, or not evidence of its lesser in visionary prowess (the Sharingan) can't then it can't as well until proven it can canonically through manga scans.





Been on the forum since 2012 just like me. Clearly that isn't true lol.

Like I said, dumb. You ask for proof of a scene that doesn't exist and then act like that validates your claim. There is only evidence based on the manga's statements and implications all of which say the Byakugan is incredible at identifying chakra and superior to the Sharingan in that respect. From Neji being able to identify Sasuke in Oro's barrel that had a barrier on it to prevent people from looking into it to the other scans I posted are all evidence showing why he would be able to still identify Kakuzu's hearts while the Sharingan couldn't.

You're only evidence that it couldn't is it wasn't shown and that the Sharingan was unable to see them so the Byakugan would as well which as an argument holds no merit as an inferior product being unable to achieve a feat does not mean a superior product couldn't.

 

[DrProof]

Like I said, dumb. You ask for proof of a scene that doesn't exist and then act like that validates your claim. There is only evidence based on the manga's statements and implications all of which say the Byakugan is incredible at identifying chakra and superior to the Sharingan in that respect. From Neji being able to identify Sasuke in Oro's barrel that had a barrier on it to prevent people from looking into it to the other scans I posted are all evidence showing why he would be able to still identify Kakuzu's hearts while the Sharingan couldn't.

You're only evidence that it couldn't is it wasn't shown and that the Sharingan was unable to see them so the Byakugan would as well which as an argument holds no merit as an inferior product being unable to achieve a feat does not mean a superior product couldn't.

Literally your argument remains the same. I'll redefine my prior oversimplification: Byakugan, nor Sharingan have shown to be capable of seeing through Kakuzu's mask, therefore until given evidence of such it isn't a feat the Byakugan can accomplish.

Unless you want to talk about something else regarding Neji vs Akatsuki, drop this futile argument because you've got nothing, but assumptions, backed by no claims, while my assertion is at least backed by its kin the Sharingan.

 

[Made in Heaven]

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An eye that can see through the body perfectly somehow won't be able to see through some clothing and masks. Not to mention Kakashi's only got one eye and is not suited for Sharingan.

Byakugan >>>>> Sharingan > One Sharingan > One Sharingan in a foreign body.

Yet, somehow this is proof that Kakashi failing means the all-seeing eye will fail despite it seeing clean through a human body.

If you follow correctly, you'd understand Gentle Fist wasn't the direct cause of her intumesce; it was her silk. The chakra inserted into her merely caused the silk inside of her to expand. Just like a hot air balloon, when you add air, it expands because the balloon is light in texture. This applies here, Neji's chakra = air, her insides/silk expansion = hot air balloon.

When did the silk ever display the ability to grow by taking in more Chakra? How do you know the silk was using Chakra to be expanded? How do you even know the amount of silk present wasn't already there inside the spider from the get go? For all you know, kidomaru just let the spider fail, planning on making it disappear so the silk inside could fall on Neji. Nothing more.

Also, the sound effects are clearly indicating explosions, not growth. Meaning Neji was making the spider explode from the inside.

 

[DrProof]

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An eye that can see through the body perfectly somehow won't be able to see through some clothing and masks. Not to mention Kakashi's only got one eye and is not suited for Sharingan.

Byakugan >>>>> Sharingan > One Sharingan > One Sharingan in a foreign body.

Yet, somehow this is proof that Kakashi failing means the all-seeing eye will fail despite it seeing clean through a human body.




When did the silk ever display the ability to grow by taking in more Chakra? How do you know the silk was using Chakra to be expanded? How do you even know the amount of silk present wasn't already there inside the spider from the get go? For all you know, kidomaru just let the spider fail, planning on making it disappear so the silk inside could fall on Neji. Nothing more.

Also, the sound effects are clearly indicating explosions, not growth. Meaning Neji was making the spider explode from the inside.

Sharingan can see through objects, and the body as well, yet wasn't capable of seeing through Kakuzu, so your point is still moot here.

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Also, two Sharingan doesn't make the Sharingan any more potent that the singlet version, that's fanfiction made up on your part, don't even try to back that nonsense claim up, no where in the manga is it stated that Sharingan's abilities are hindered by being single, instead of a pair. Don't come at me with BS like that. Lol @ trying to discredit Kakashi, when he mastered the MS, please just go with this made up nonsense.

Clearly you're not following me. I never stated the silk grew by "taking in more chakra," read carefully. The silk expanded when Neji's chakra made entrance into the her body, the expansion of the silk caused her body to swell (hence the multiple distorted bumps in her body). I mean literally its clear as day that's what happened, because simply imputing chakra into someone wouldn't cause them to swell up in different bumps and sizes like she did, if that were the case every person a Hyuga has put chakra into they should've swelled, which clearly isn't the case.

You realize that's what I'm saying correct? How else can the silk be present if it weren't in the spider... This just proves you weren't following/understanding what I was saying. That was Kidomaru's plan, to capture Neji in a trap, disperse his summoning, then attack while his summonings silk would disable rotation from being effective, so that his sticky gold projectiles could deliver fatal blows

Lol the sound effect is BO-OF. The sound of gas/smoke/summoning dispersion, not an explosion.

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Kaboom, or (xx)boom are the sound of explosions.

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[Made in Heaven]

Referring to this, so thanks for proving me right.

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[DrProof]

Referring to this, so thanks for proving me right.

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Are you really that slow?

Look at the impact the spider made, coupled by the grounds response to the swelled spider's mass. Clearly the "boom," is relating to the crash. How would something go boom when its still intact? You can't explode while still being whole. You're grasping at unbearably thin straws now.

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

how is it an endgame? Hidan is immortal lol He literally stabbed himself in the heart and based on feats hidan is a much better CQC fighter than Neji

Ever notice how the arguments start at Gentle fist. Never mind the fact that Neji is slow and has no attacks for greater than 20meters. Anyone who could fly would wreck Neji and Kakuza's final form would absolutely annihilate Neji with its aerial assaults and combined nature attacks

Inb4 airpalm which does absolutely nothing based on feats

stopped reading @ bold

 

[SenseiSama]

stopped reading @ bold

Neji would've torn Hidan a new hole lol, one touch and it's over