Who can use Amaterasu?

[Haru70]

This is nonsense.I don't know why nor care why Itach was surprise at Sasuke Susanoo.These are the facts;At the third Kage summit, Sasuke said the Third power granted to a user of MS when you awaken MS in both eyes is Susanoo.He didn't say the third power in his family;Meaning any Uchiha who Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, will be granted Susanoo.We only know of three Uchiha who have awaken Susanoo because we have only seen three Uchiha with Ms in both eyes fight.We have only seen Izuna's death and we haven't seen Shisui at all.



The Sasuke/Itachi having the same power because there are brother is nonsense.If that was the case, then Izuna must have had the same power as Madara because they are borthers.And developing a unique ability with your MS doesn't mean anything in the scheme of things.The fact is Tobirama knew of Amaterasu and he died long before Sasuke or Itach were born;Meaning, some other Uchiha had to have had the ability before both of them.Shisui Uchiha was reknown for his used of genjutsu, do you actually believe he only had one genjutsu that he could used once every tens years to get such notoriety? We know of only two jutsu from Shisui, I would conclude that he had more then two jutsus.

Umm... you didn't say anything I don't know already. You stated that everyone with both MS gets Amaterasu, which is obviously invalid. So there.

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

Sasuke, and Itachi. Madara maybe

 

[zafarali]

Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke.

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

madara can't use Amaterasu

 

[SadSasuke]

The top 3 characters that use Amaterasu and how well they control it and their feats are:
1. Sasuke can control it.
2. Madara discovered it.
3. Itachi knows how to use it

 

[AlphaScythian]

Is it not also fact that eyes that awaken Susano'o and such techniques are rare?

Meaning not all Uchiha with Mangekyou unlock the same abilities.

Also explains why Itachi was surprised to see Sasuke had Susano'o too.

U say it like itachi knew anything about other ms users...

 

[BlackFlame44]

Since when can madara use Amaterasu?

 

[Haru70]

U say it like itachi knew anything about other ms users...

Are you kidding me bro...? Itachi knew of Madara's MS... -__- Not to mention Shisui as well.

Remember when Itachi was explaining the concept of Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan to his little brother?

What are you talking about?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Are you kidding me bro...? Itachi knew of Madara's MS... -__-
Remember when Itachi was explaining the concept of Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan to his little brother?
What are you talking about?

So he knew what powers madara had? Dont kid me. All itachi knew was blah bla MS blah EMS blah blah kyuubi control.
He had no info on all that. Itachi was just as surprised of susanoo as i get of seeing other guy with same jacket like me.

Obito wasnt surprised of susanoo. He claimed to kages sasuke could awaken it and only witnessed it vs danzo.

 

[Haru70]

So he knew what powers madara had? Dont kid me. All itachi knew was blah bla MS blah EMS blah blah kyuubi control.
He had no info on all that. Itachi was just as surprised of susanoo as i get of seeing other guy with same jacket like me.

Obito wasnt surprised of susanoo. He claimed to kages sasuke could awaken it and only witnessed it vs danzo.

I never said he knew of Madara's powers, I said he knew of MS. ._. Meaning he knew of its existence outside of his own MS. The point of me saying he was surprised to see Sasuke's Susano'o was because not all Uchiha gain the same abilities upon unlocking Mangekyou Sharingan. Which is why Itachi was surprised to see his little brother had gained the same ability as him. Remember when he said something like "so you can use this technique too?"

Overall I was proving that dude who said all Uchiha with both MS get Amaterasu wrong. Did you review the posts throughout the thread? cause I shouldn't have had to explain this.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I never said he knew of Madara's powers, I said he knew of MS. ._. Meaning he knew of its existence outside of his own MS. The point of me saying he was surprised to see Sasuke's Susano'o was because not all Uchiha gain the same abilities upon unlocking Mangekyou Sharingan. Which is why Itachi was surprised to see his little brother had gained the same ability as him. Remember when he said something like "so you can use this technique too?"

Overall I was proving that dude who said all Uchiha with MS get Amaterasu wrong. Did you review the posts throughout the thread? cause I shouldn't have had to explain this.

Yes but little did itachi know. 3rd power as susanoo is 50% chance now, other powers may vary.

 

[Haru70]

Yes but little did itachi know. 3rd power as susanoo is 50% chance now, other powers may vary.

Well I can't say you're wrong about that, cause I'm not too sure myself. But yeah... I was proving a point dude.

 

[natssuu]

Madara doesn't have amaterasu, though it seems Izuna possessed it because Tobirama knows the technique.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Umm... you didn't say anything I don't know already. You stated that everyone with both MS gets Amaterasu, which is obviously invalid. So there.

With both MS? I assume you mean MS in both eyes.And what proof do you have that this is invalid?Of course, you have none.My theory is base on everything we have read in the manga, your thoughts are base solely on your own opinion.

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Are you kidding me bro...? Itachi knew of Madara's MS... -__- Not to mention Shisui as well.

Remember when Itachi was explaining the concept of Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan to his little brother?

What are you talking about?

What stupidity.Knowing Madara had MS and knowing the abilities he wield is two different things.Itachi also believed Obito was Madara, so I guess Obito is Madara and not Obito because Itachi believed it.And how stupid is it to bring up Itachi knowing of Shisui's MS when we all know Shisui was like Itachi's Sensei.

Madara doesn't have amaterasu, though it seems Izuna possessed it because Tobirama knows the technique.

Tobirama knowing of the technique doesn't mean he knows it because of Izuna.Both Madara and Izuna fought in battle against The Senju Clan.Either of them or both could have used Amaterasu in battle and Tobirama would have known because they were fighting in the same vicinity.

 

[Haru70]

With both MS? I assume you mean MS in both eyes.And what proof do you have that this is invalid?Of course, you have none.My theory is base on everything we have read in the manga, your thoughts are base solely on your own opinion.

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What stupidity.Knowing Madara had MS and knowing the abilities he wield is two different things.Itachi also believed Obito was Madara, so I guess Obito is Madara and not Obito because Itachi believed it.And how stupid is it to bring up Itachi knowing of Shisui's MS when we all know Shisui was like Itachi's Sensei.



Tobirama knowing of the technique doesn't mean he knows it because of Izuna.Both Madara and Izuna fought in battle against The Senju Clan.Either of them or both could have used Amaterasu in battle and Tobirama would have known because they were fighting in the same vicinity.

So its a theory now? Okay... you said it earlier like it was absolute fact. My thoughts are clearly backed up by events in the manga as well. You need to read carefully before becoming a keyboard warrior... wise guy. Your "proof" proves nothing. Sasuke statement was simply that "only those with both mangekyou can use that power". That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone with both Mangekyou can use that power. Why else would eyes that can use Amaterasu, Susano'o, etc be considered rare? You have no way of proving your claim true. If the manga proves that Madara really doesn't know Amaterasu then that will be a prime example of how much your statement that "everyone with mangekyou in both eyes can use amaterasu" fails.

And your second reply about my "stupidity"... go read the conversation me and Alphascythian just had, because I obviously explained what I meant. This conversation is over.

 

[Uchihareborn207]

1 tobirama knew about amaterasu ,so it means that either madara had it or izuna

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2 madara have izuna's eyes, so if he hadn't ama he have now.

 

[shelke]

Tobirama's knowledge about Amaterasu doesn't mean Izuna or Madara utilized it. Madara and Izuna were the FIRST to unlock MS. This doesn't mean that after them, NO ONE managed to attain MS. This should be common sense.

Obito possibly has something along the lines of Tsukuyumi, as he controlled Yagura for years. But as his other eye merely mimics his own, Kakashi would never be able to display anything along the lines of Amaterasu. Whether Madara and Izuna had Amaterasu is pure speculation at this point, as I explained at the start of my post. Same can be ventured for Shisui as well.

 

[apsri]

Already stated that Madara can really use Ama.... Tobirama knew about it, so yup

Was it? Just because Tobirama had heard of it doesn't mean that Madara could use Amaterasu. It could have been Izuna.