[VS] Who can Take Down Full Powered Lord Orochimaru?

[Songbird Supreme]

He cannot undo it. Only the caster can. Read the damn mama.

is that why both hashirama and madara broke it? because they're the casters of it?

"only the caster can undo it" has been disproven awhile ago.

he knows the seals, he breaks it

 

[BenjerminGaye]

is that why both hashirama and madara broke it? because they're the casters of it?

"only the caster can undo it" has been disproven awhile ago.

he knows the seals, he breaks it

Hashirama never broke it.
Madara only did after the contract ended.

Read the manga

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Hashirama never broke it.
Madara only did after the contract ended.

Read the manga

you read the manga

he broke it right here

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and tobirama would of broke it had orochimaru not used hashirama's cells to increase the restraint

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[BenjerminGaye]

you read the manga

he broke it right here

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he broke the restraint not edo tensai. Read the damn manga.

and tobirama would of broke it had orochimaru not used hashirama's cells to increase the restraint

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Tobirama can't break edo tensai or the restraints.

At any moment oro could put all 4 kage back in their coffins. No questions asked. He might not be able to control hashirama's movements but if he wills it back in the coffin they go.

 

[RedRobin]

he broke the restraint not edo tensai. Read the damn manga.


Tobirama can't break edo tensai or the restraints.

At any moment oro could put all 4 kage back in their coffins. No questions asked. He might not be able to control hashirama's movements but if he wills it back in the coffin they go.

Tobirama the person who made the justu knows how to release the justu, if he was not restrained he could release himself from edo tensei.

If Madara knew how to do it then I am sure the brother of the guy who created it knows how to release himself from edo tensei too.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Tobirama the person who made the justu knows how to release the justu, if he was not restrained he could release himself from edo tensei.

yet he didn't get free... hmm, he could have easily weaved the seals instead of trying to flex his chakra.

If Madara knew how to do it then I am sure the brother of the guy who created it knows how to release himself from edo tensei too.

Madara was only able to do it cuz the jutsu was being released.

 

[RedRobin]

yet he didn't get free... hmm, he could have easily weaved the seals instead of trying to flex his chakra.

Madara was only able to do it cuz the jutsu was being released.

Bro he made the justu. Yet someone else made a release for it. That is pretty ridiculous. If Orochimaru saw him using hand seals he would have restricted his movements.

What would have made the difference? Madara was being called back so it doesnt matter when he released the justu because he is still under Kabuto's control when being called back.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Edo Madara canonically lost to Edo Hashirama. I'd also favor SM Hashirama over BSM Naruto, but even if they cancel each other out he has Edo Minato to give chakra cloaks out, making an even stronger Edo Hashi.

Edo madara stalemated hashi... Hashi was already impaled with black rods prior to him using mokuton dragon barriers on madara, madara just didn't decide to incapacitate hashi until bz revived him.

Bsm naruto isn't on par with base hashi let alone sm hashi... Mokuton still has priority over bijuu andchakra naruto would have his cloak absorbed trying to fight all hashi's constructs...wood dragon and golem combo alone wrecks no need for buudha or adding in other constructs

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Bro he made the justu. Yet someone else made a release for it. That is pretty ridiculous. If Orochimaru saw him using hand seals he would have restricted his movements.

What would have made the difference? Madara was being called back so it doesnt matter when he released the justu because he is still under Kabuto's control when being called back.

Exactly this.

 

[Red Slayer]

Full powered Orochimaru shouldnt include Hashirama and BM Minato.

dont like something? can leave! bye!

 

[New Dawn]

Itachi is all you need.

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[Red Slayer]

is that why both hashirama and madara broke it? because they're the casters of it?

"only the caster can undo it" has been disproven awhile ago.

he knows the seals, he breaks it

Hashirama Never Broke contract he just broke restraint... Madara release his own contract!!!(and he did it after Kabuto release ET) there is nothing which proves that it can break others contracts too.... only Jutsu caster can release ET...

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Bsm naruto isn't on par with base hashi let alone sm hashi... Mokuton still has priority over bijuu andchakra naruto would have his cloak absorbed trying to fight all hashi's constructs...wood dragon and golem combo alone wrecks no need for buudha or adding in other constructs

Your right, BSM Naruto is stronger.
BM Naruto alone was handling Edo Madara and Rinnegan Obito pretty easily.
BSM Naruto was pretty easily going up against Juubito (and was doing well all things considered) whereas Hashirama was getting stomped.
Only problem is Shinsuusenju.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Bro he made the justu. Yet someone else made a release for it. That is pretty ridiculous.

how so? He didn't perfect it to the lvl oro, kabuto or reborn oro did. And we all saw the difference in power part 1 oro edo's are in comparison to kabuto's let alone reborn oro's and tobirama's edo's are weaker than that. So him not knowing how to break the contract is his bad.

If Orochimaru saw him using hand seals he would have restricted his movements.

the first time he flexed his chakra or or shit himself he could have weaved them then.

What would have made the difference? Madara was being called back so it doesnt matter when he released the justu because he is still under Kabuto's control when being called back.

he isn't under Kabuto's control or contract when his soul was ascending. Hence why he was able to keep himself there.

Exactly this.

U Still don't get it. Itachi weaving the seals don't mean jack shit to oro's edo's. Itachi can't force them to weave the seals, and none of his genjutsu's are stronger than ka, which didn't undo Edo Tensei. Itachi can't do shit in this situation

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Itachi can't force them to weave the seals,

And yet :

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[Red Slayer]

And yet :

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bruh its Kabuto in Izanami Loop and he is Jutsu Caster not Edo Shinobi... sorry but thing u are trying to prove is absurd

 

[Songbird Supreme]

bruh its Kabuto in Izanami Loop and he is Jutsu Caster not Edo Shinobi... sorry but thing u are trying to prove is absurd

"bruh" he used tsukuyomi

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and it was in response to this:

itachi cant force them to weave the seals

even though he already did:

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[Red Slayer]

"bruh" he used tsukuyomi

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and it was in response to this:



even though he already did:

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1) u ignored my 1st point Itachi made Jutsu caster release ET not The Edo SHinobi itself )))

2)i think i know better than u what he did )) he put Kabuto in Izanami made him sleep in eternal loop and after He used Tsukioymi yes... but what is ur point? u saying Itachi puts Edo Hashirama under genjutsu (tsuku) while fighting and controls him(brainless Zombie which is controled by orochimaru, edo doesnt have his own mind) and forces him do hands seals which need at least 1 min while other Hokages and summon are there? and again it still wont work on Edo Shinobi its absurd ur thoughts is absurd ur logic is absurd and u are absurd!!! : )))) good luck