Who can beat Suiryu from other series?

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I thought you're gonna say that Suiryu is no different than those S-Rank, but really? Suiryu can defeat Sea-King easily? If so, this is where it's gonna lost me. Suiryu in terms of power level is unknown. They say Rob Lucci is 4000 Douriki and seems after 2 years, God knows how much Douriki he is. Saitama represent zero in mathematics.

Zillions x 0 = 0

So Suiryu's power can't be measured against Saitama. Between Saitama and Suiryu, it's pretty much the same between Goku and Superman. I hopelessly might say Suiryu as powerful as...... strongest human of Dragon Ball universe like Roshi maybe. I'm trying to measure Suiryu by Dragon Ball standards of power level. Non of the villains Saitama fought can be told how much their power level are.
What gap? You think Goku can defeat Superman? You think Superman can defeat Goku?
 

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You think Goku can defeat Superman? You think Superman can defeat Goku?
JESUS, HashiraMadara! (and I say it sarcastically). Did I ever say Goku can defeat Superman? No. Even if Goku is god of all gods of DB universe, to Goku, Superman is unlimited in power. Goku ain't do shit to Sups. And do I think Sups can defeat Goku? Do I? JESUS! (and again, I say it sarcastically) Sups is using Goku as a punching bag. Punching bag might be even little to describe the situation between the two. Apparently you don't read carefully. Like that list of bounties and you asked about Jinbe.
jesus!
 

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JESUS, HashiraMadara! (and I say it sarcastically). Did I ever say Goku can defeat Superman? No. Even if Goku is god of all gods of DB universe, to Goku, Superman is unlimited in power. Goku ain't do shit to Sups. And do I think Sups can defeat Goku? Do I? JESUS! (and again, I say it sarcastically) Sups is using Goku as a punching bag. Punching bag might be even little to describe the situation between the two. Apparently you don't read carefully. Like that list of bounties and you asked about Jinbe.
jesus!

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Anyways I don't see how Superman defeats Goku and I don't see how Goku defeats superman. Goku = Doomsday, Keeps coming back to fight more and learns while he's fighting and superman simply goes stronger.

A good example is Toriyama gave DBZ fans a Superman anti hero Hit. Hit gets stronger as he fights, unlike superman Hit adapts and gets stronger 10 folds while gaining new techniques, still Goku keeps up and finds counter.

OFFTOPIC goku simply destroys the universe and there is no star to get stronger from.
 

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Yeah.
HashiraMadara said:
Anyways I don't see how Superman defeats Goku and I don't see how Goku defeats superman.
I hate to say it.
ScrewAttack.

I know.
HashiraMadara said:
Goku = Doomsday, Keeps coming back to fight more and learns while he's fighting and superman simply goes stronger.
Superman has no limits. He represents infinity.
HashiraMadara said:
A good example is Toriyama gave DBZ fans a Superman anti hero Hit. Hit gets stronger as he fights, unlike superman Hit adapts and gets stronger 10 folds while gaining new techniques, still Goku keeps up and finds counter.
Still even someone as Hit (who I know nothing about, because I dropped DB) or any universe god can't defeat Sups.
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OFFTOPIC goku simply destroys the universe and there is no star to get stronger from.
Destroy universe by sneeze?
 

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I hate to say it.
ScrewAttack.

I know.
Because: gut feeling? :|

Superman has no limits. He represents infinity.
Goku represents overcoming limits what makes it even more clear is Goku being equal to Vegeta and still fighting guys who neg Vegeta

Still even someone as Hit (who I know nothing about, because I dropped DB) or any universe god can't defeat Sups.
DarSeid
Majin Buu (susceptible to magic)
Odin
Living Tribunal
One Above All
Hercules
Infinite Gauntlet Thanos
etc can defeat superman

Shazam, DarkSeid and Doomsday did defeat him AND Doomsday did kill him.

Destroy universe by sneeze?
He destroyed the solar system.
 

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Because gut feeling? :|
I don't understand what you're trying to say. I said "ScrewAttack". ScrewAttack is a YouTube channel that does Death-Battles.
HashiraMadara said:
Superman has no limits. He represents infinity.
Yup.
HashiraMadara said:
Goku represents overcoming limits.
Well, if we look at it from math perspective, increasing number = infinity?
HashiraMadara said:
What makes it even more clear is Goku being equal to Vegeta and still fighting guys who neg Vegeta
Not sure about the powers between Goku and Vegeta being Equal. It appears to me always Goku a step a head of Vegeta.
HashiraMadara said:
DarSeid
Majin Buu (susceptible to magic)
Odin
Living Tribunal
One Above All
Hercules
Infinite Gauntlet Thanos
etc can defeat superman

Shazam, DarkSeid and Doomsday did defeat him AND Doomsday did kill him.
Yeah, I know. Even Ion (Kyle Rayner) and Emperor Joker, Emperor Doom, the Beyonder can kill or defeat Superman Prime One Million.

So?
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He destroyed the solar system.
It takes full energy for Goku to destroy solar system. Sups sneezed and his sneeze destroyed planets.
 

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Just hand to hand right? Toriko can definitely do it.
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For matching, not sure.
 
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She will torture the poor guy and then use her black hole

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Well he is dead for sure in this one, but to remind you, I said HAND-TO-HAND. Something so basic yet so simple. When someone ask about "Alucard vs Someone", the answer is pretty simple. You see that I limit the debate to again HAND-TO-HAND.
 
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