Still stick to my opinion until we see flashbacks of Roger and Garp my opinion of Garp being stronger is not going to change.Garp has never been stated to fight Pirate King Roger. All what we know is that they fought in the past but we don't know when. For all we know, Roger wasn't pirate king and far from his prime when he used to fight him. Shiki, Squardo and many others also fought Roger. His hype pales in comparison to Whitebeard's who is said to be the only one who could fight equally with pirate King Roger and became world strongest man after Roger died and remained world strongest man despite being old and ill. If Garp was really at that level, something like that would have never happened. Garp greatest feat to date is to be able to defeat Shiki with Sengoku's help, someone weaker than Roger/Whitebeard
Not really. Shanks isn't stronger than Mihawk just because he's a Yonko. Mihawk is stronger because his title is based solely on strength, while Shanks' titles comes with a set of politics.How does this even make sense? Do you not see the contradiction? Mihawk is stronger than Shanks because hes the WSS and Shanks is stronger than Mihawk because he's a Yonkou. No people who try to dispute this are just making excuses when it comes to two characters with equally great feats titles mean nothing.
Okay :/Still stick to my opinion until we see flashbacks of Roger and Garp my opinion of Garp being stronger is not going to change.
Bold: It was never stated when Roger and Whitebeard battled.
Shanks has feats unlike Garp U_U.Yes and Garp is neither the Hero of the Marines nor a Haki beast
Either way, enjoy your day arguing the usual![]()
Mihawk doesn't have a crew or territory, so he can't be a Yonko. It has nothing to do with his strength.How does this even make sense? Do you not see the contradiction? Mihawk is stronger than Shanks because hes the WSS and Shanks is stronger than Mihawk because he's a Yonkou. No people who try to dispute this are just making excuses when it comes to two characters with equally great feats titles mean nothing.
Buggy was also fodder when he made the comment so your point is void.WB high diff.
It was stated that garp and roger nearly killed each other but when was that, in what period of time was that, it could very well be when roger and garp were almost equals and roger later on advanced and became stronger, this is what mere fodders knew about garp and roger:
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It tells that he cornered Roger, but it was never stated that he cornered him when both were at the peak of their power, in the other side we have plenty hype and feats that put WB above anyone on the manga except Roger, look what a crew member of the PK ship said about WB:
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WB as the "only man" who tied with WB, buggy knew better than mere fodders that WB was the only guy to ever fight Roger on par, it means they were equals in power and standing.
Not only that we had the manga itself who proved that WB>anyone:
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Even though sengoku knew the power of garp he always said that WB is the WSM, and nothing changes that, even garp itself puts WB on a pedestal:
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His hype and feats are better, why someone claims that Garp>WB I dont get it.
but it was stated by roger, he had fought garp so many times he considered him a friend and trusted him enough to tell him about his son.Garp has never been stated to fight Pirate King Roger. All what we know is that they fought in the past but we don't know when. For all we know, Roger wasn't pirate king and far from his prime when he used to fight him. Shiki, Squardo and many others also fought Roger. His hype pales in comparison to Whitebeard's who is said to be the only one who could fight equally with pirate King Roger and became world strongest man after Roger died and remained world strongest man despite being old and ill. If Garp was really at that level, something like that would have never happened. Garp greatest feat to date is to be able to defeat Shiki with Sengoku's help, someone weaker than Roger/Whitebeard
"we nearly killed each other countless times"(from roger himself to garp)How does Garp win against Whitebeard? no dont tell me lemme guess. "Cuz Roger said we almost killed eachother thats enough proof to put Garp above Whitebeard" Lol dont make me laugh. That statement can be interpreted in many ways Ive seen no feats from Garp that puts him above whitebeard.
Didn't you read one piece marineford arc properly????WB was not healthy and he is near to death.He was stabbed by squalo and 3 admirals landed serious blows and he was still standing.He got hit with bullets and 267 sword slashes,gun wounds of 152,shot by canon 46 times he received and he died standing so u think akainu can take all these and survive??????1. Whitebeard wasn't injured in any way that significantly hindered him. He commented that Squard's stab wasn't enough to hinder him. If you're referring to his illness, then so? If Whitebeard loses to someone because his illness hindered him, then WB<than person due to his illness. Not only that, but Whitebeard's illness was not affecting him at the time Akainu cleaved off half of his face. This is evident by the fact that Whitebeard was striking Akainu, a Logia, meaning he was using Haki, and his illness stopped him from using Haki when he wanted to knock out Ace's executioners with Haoshoku and when he wanted to strike Kizaru, it left him unable to use Busoshoku.
2. No he didn't. Whitebeard snuck up behind him and hit Akainu with a sneak attack. And even then, Akainu was still able to cleave off half of his face. If I snuck up behind you and stabbed you in your kidney, you're gonna faulter too, even if you were better than me. One vs one, face to face, with no sneak attacks, Whitebeard vs Akainu ended up as Whitebeard on his knees, magma in chest as Akainu stood over him. Was Akainu hurt? Yes. But he was not schooled, because he wasn't even defeated. If Akainu was defeated, he would have stayed down for the rest of the war. If Akainu was "schooled", he wouldn't have had enough strength to face off against all of Whitebeard's commanders(minus Jozu), two Shichibukai, and Ivankov. If Akainu was schooled, he wouldn't have been able to keep on fighting and defeat Jinbei with absolutely no difficulty.
are you on drugs? Garp would absolutely STOMP Sakazuki...Whitebeard high diff. IMO, Garp is weaker than Sakazuki, who would also lose high diff.
WB nearly died to Akainu even though he caught him off-guard.are you on drugs? Garp would absolutely STOMP Sakazuki...
On topic, Whitebeard very high Diff
No he wouldn't.are you on drugs? Garp would absolutely STOMP Sakazuki...
On topic, Whitebeard very high Diff
Hm, how do you know who is strongest Pirate?Imo the steongest marine and the strongest pirate were both stronger than the second strongest marine and second strongest pirate, though along the lines of 99:100 or 98:100
Nearly killing each other several times doesn't mean giving good fights.Hm, how do you know who is strongest Pirate?
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Both in prime:
WB win. WB was said to be only man to rival Roger's strength, but for Garp it was said that he only give good fights to Roger, which is not same.
Both old:
WB still wins, he is still holder of "Strongest man", but match would be closer here.