[VS] Whitebeard vs Akainu

[ToshiZO]

"as an excuse".. excuse to what exactly? And what would oda use it as an excuse for?

Stating the fact that Whitebeard had a huge hole in his chest making his sickness even worst.. isn't making an excuse but stating a fact. This is literally Oda showing whitebeard getting stabbed, bleeding a lot from the chest, and bleeding from the mouth, and to add on to the details he increased the amount of "sweat" on his face.

The "excuse" crap is as pathetic as Doffy fanboys trying to claim people using Luffy being tired affecting his performance as an "excuse". Its not a bloody excuse its a god damn fact.

You know what else Oda did? He made sure Whitebeard received a big injury before the battle started. .

you are the one making an excuse here not me.

What I'm saying is that attack was a sign of WB's clear weakness, Squards attack should not be doing any damage to WB or even landing in the first place.

And so if even Squard can get to WB and put him in that state, what happens when Akainu manages to land a blow on him?

And lets not ignore the fact that WB was on life support and Marco was worried for him when he took it off.

What im hearing from your side is.

"WB will beat Akainu in 3 mins without recieving a single injury and before his heart issues start taking over"

So basically you people are saying WB stomps Akainu neg diff? That would be the only way he wins this. If Akainu lands even one hit and/or this battle lasts decently long which anyone who doesn't have an extra chromosome will understand that it will, WB loses. You simply can't beat someone on Akainu'sw level in a matter of minutes.

 

[KingHashirama]

I will ask again, "excuse" for what? You said Oda didn't use it as an excuse.. but what was there for it to be used as an "excuse" for? Do you guys not know how injuries work? Or what happens when somebody is going into battle with a basketball size hole in their chest?


A hole about the size of a normal human's head in Whitebeard's chest shouldn't affect him? Wtf. The dude started bleeding from his mouth right after he got stabbed. Hes not a logia, he a guy with a flesh body, who on top of that was already sick. Whether he was sick or not is also not something that even matters when it comes to the damage from the chest stab. As a whole in his chest would affect him whether he is in his prime or near death.

Squardo was able to land a blow on Whitebeard due to Whitebeard's trust. And Akainu ain't stabbing him the same he did at marineford, if Whitebeard is going in perfectly healthy.


Now where did you hear from my side that Whitebeard will beat Akainu in 3 minutes? you are the one implying Akainu would destroy Whitebeard, simply because Whitebeard's heartattack at marineford. When you completely ignore the fact he was going into the battle already damaged with a big wound in addition to his sickness. The wound making his sickness even worst.

I mean hell you don't even have a god damn proof that he'll have a heart attack similar to the one at Marineford without a basketball size hole in his chest.

The battle is going high-diff for Whitebeard's win.

 

[-Akuma-]

Nothing suggest that first point.

Of course not. Fresh WB at old age vs Akainu would exactly like their first clash did. Deflecting attacks until one of the other gets an upper hand. And even if WB gets the upper hand first, there's no one top tier is demolishing another in a short amount of time. It's gonna be a drawn out fight, which doesn't favor WB.

And REALLY think about it. If you REALLY think SQUARD'S slash caused WB to have that heart attack, you think attacks from AKAINU can't do the same? If SQUARD could get pass fresh WB's reflexes to land a blow on him that WB barely saw coming, you think AKAINU would NEVER be able to do the same?

Yes because when having an heart condition and then getting stabbed won't worsen it at all......

He was stab in the heart while holding back because of Ace. If he was fresh Akainu would be finished, Akainu himself had no reason to hold back and WB still matched him. Yes one top tier is finishing the other in an short amount of time, one blow is all it takes, like in the 1st round of their fight.

Akainu is not landing a clean blow in the chest on an healthy WB, hence why would couldn't until the condition kicked in.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Whitebeard's fighting style is pretty straightforward, he uses punches and his bisento and he can imbue them with Haki and quake fruit. We've seen that his Haki alone isn't doing much to Akainu considering Aokiji also shrugged it off, so It will probably come down to trading quake punches and Akainu's magma punches.

Now, WB's quake punches caused Akainu to cough out blood when both connected along with sending him down the crevice, While Akainu's magma fist blew off half his face. Now, Akainu seemed to demonstrate more pain from that exchange but if they continued trading blows WB quite possibly could have lost more limbs.

I'm of the opinion that Akainu could battle WB more after that exchange had it not been for the hole, considering he tunneled his way back to find Luffy after a short period of time, and went right back into action. Mind you, WB initated that exchange by surprise.


I see Akainu beating old WB with high-extreme difficulty considering they would stalemate until they started trading punches, but this time Whitebeard wouldn't be able to initiate with a surprise attack.

 

[LBeezy]

ATTENTION: Akainu fan boys and girls.

Question.

Who do you think, from the OP verse, CAN defeat Akainu in a 1 vs 1 match?

(I really would like to know your answers to this question.. before I consider you all to be mentally challenged.)

Thanks in advance..

 

[ssjelf]

ATTENTION: Akainu fan boys and girls.

Question.

Who do you think, from the OP verse, CAN defeat Akainu in a 1 vs 1 match?

(I really would like to know your answers to this question.. before I consider you all to be mentally challenged.)

Thanks in advance..

They basically think kaido only lol

 

[Skull Knight]

They basically think kaido only lol

kaido couldnot beat The Lava Man
We need Aliens in OP

 

[ssjelf]

kaido couldnot beat The Lava Man
We need Aliens in OP

IDK man kaido had mad hype right now. Begs the question, how did shanks stop him though?

 

[Skull Knight]

IDK man kaido had mad hype right now. Begs the question, how did shanks stop him though?

Confirmed Shanks is The Alien we need to beat Akainu

 

[Souji]

I think Whitebeard wins with high to extreme difficulty.

 

[LBeezy]

Should've had a poll for this thread.. lol

 

[lelerskates]

If it's old WB, Akainu high diff.
If it's young WB, WB extreme diff.

Delete your account, idiot.

 

[Itachi Minato]

ATTENTION: Akainu fan boys and girls.

Question.

Who do you think, from the OP verse, CAN defeat Akainu in a 1 vs 1 match?

(I really would like to know your answers to this question.. before I consider you all to be mentally challenged.)

Thanks in advance..

By hype Kaido, Shanks, Dragon. By feats nobody.

I think Prime WB would be able to beat Akainu mid diff. Old WB would lose high diff. Everyone agrees old WB vs Akainu is a high diff fight so surely Prime WB would be mid diff. To all the people on WB side, when WB himself said that Squardos stab was nothing how can you dispute it? Even if we discount that stab im sure WB would have a heart attack anyway. Toshi already showed Marco was worried about his health if that fight went on WB body would give out before Akainus, theres no way WB would not have a heart attack in this fight.

 

[Punk Hazard]

ATTENTION: Akainu fan boys and girls.

Question.

Who do you think, from the OP verse, CAN defeat Akainu in a 1 vs 1 match?

(I really would like to know your answers to this question.. before I consider you all to be mentally challenged.)

Thanks in advance..

At this point in time, Kaido can surely defeat Akainu. Shanks, Dragon, Aokiji, Kizaru, and the other Yonko should be able to push him to extreme diff and can possibly win, but I see Akainu being more likely to win with everyone there except Shanks.

 

[ToshiZO]

They basically think kaido only lol

And? What's wrong with that?

What do take One Piece top tiers for, we don't even have direct feats from each of them to compare they should all be very close in strength. Not to mention this is Akainu the Marine who has been highlighted and given the most importance by Oda.

Who other than Kaido has higher chances of beating Akainu vs the other way around? Name almost any other elite top tier and it can go either way.

So yea only Kaido has the hype and portrayal as of right now to be favoured against any one in a 1v1 including Akainu. The rest fall under the same category.

So yea Akainu can beat any one in this verse, bar Kaidou which isn't guaranteed but you just have to favour Kaido.

 

[LBeezy]

By hype Kaido, Shanks, Dragon. By feats nobody.

I think Prime WB would be able to beat Akainu mid diff. Old WB would lose high diff. Everyone agrees old WB vs Akainu is a high diff fight so surely Prime WB would be mid diff. To all the people on WB side, when WB himself said that Squardos stab was nothing how can you dispute it? Even if we discount that stab im sure WB would have a heart attack anyway. Toshi already showed Marco was worried about his health if that fight went on WB body would give out before Akainus, theres no way WB would not have a heart attack in this fight.

I disagree with the heartattack part.. but thanks for giving your answer nonetheless.

At this point in time, Kaido can surely defeat Akainu. Shanks, Dragon, Aokiji, Kizaru, and the other Yonko should be able to push him to extreme diff and can possibly win, but I see Akainu being more likely to win with everyone there except Shanks.

Thank you for a nice and decent response. Plus with what you said, I like how you're not saying "oh Akainu wins hands down" but rather stating your opinion on who you favor, based on who's in a similar tier as him.

Respect bro.

And? What's wrong with that?

What do take One Piece top tiers for, we don't even have direct feats from each of them to compare they should all be very close in strength. Not to mention this is Akainu the Marine who has been highlighted and given the most importance by Oda.

Who other than Kaido has higher chances of beating Akainu vs the other way around? Name almost any other elite top tier and it can go either way.

So yea only Kaido has the hype and portrayal as of right now to be favoured against any one in a 1v1 including Akainu. The rest fall under the same category.

So yea Akainu can beat any one in this verse, bar Kaidou which isn't guaranteed but you just have to favour Kaido.

Were you drooling as you typed this post?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I disagree with the heartattack part.. but thanks for giving your answer nonetheless.




Thank you for a nice and decent response. Plus with what you said, I like how you're not saying "oh Akainu wins hands down" but rather stating your opinion on who you favor, based on who's in a similar tier as him.

Respect bro.



Were you drooling as you typed this post?

In my opinion, I think it makes no sense that the top tiers of the OP world would be unable to to push each other as far as possible. Oda has portrayed the pirate world and the Marine organization to be about even with each other, and it makes more sense to me, especially from a story standpoint, that the top of each world would be very close with strength, and we've seen time and time again the closer you are to someone in strength, the harder the fight.

While I definitely think as the story goes on it's fully possible for us to see new feats and hype that could change the order of my list, I just think for now, Akainu is second highest up. I think it's silly to assume anyone will be in the place in the list we think they are now permanently, that it could never change or be retconned, or that the top tier has overwhelming gaps between the people in them.

So while I think Akainu has a good chance of defeating some of those top tiers, I see it being a Lucci/Luffy kind of fight.

 

[ssjelf]

And? What's wrong with that?

What do take One Piece top tiers for, we don't even have direct feats from each of them to compare they should all be very close in strength. Not to mention this is Akainu the Marine who has been highlighted and given the most importance by Oda.

Who other than Kaido has higher chances of beating Akainu vs the other way around? Name almost any other elite top tier and it can go either way.

So yea only Kaido has the hype and portrayal as of right now to be favoured against any one in a 1v1 including Akainu. The rest fall under the same category.

So yea Akainu can beat any one in this verse, bar Kaidou which isn't guaranteed but you just have to favour Kaido.

With any of the yonkou it could go either way I believe. I bet kong could, and if garp is still as as strong as he once was he probably could too but i doubt he is in the shape he once was anymore. I also think at the time of marineford sengoku could. I am not really sure where the gorosei stand in this so I will leave them out. Also we dont know how strong dragon is but I would think that fight might go either way.

What is wrong with it is only that there are many characters out there who are left out of that argument. And I thought we were talking about who can beat akainu not who will beat akainu every time.

 

[arv993]

In my opinion, I think it makes no sense that the top tiers of the OP world would be unable to to push each other as far as possible. Oda has portrayed the pirate world and the Marine organization to be about even with each other, and it makes more sense to me, especially from a story standpoint, that the top of each world would be very close with strength, and we've seen time and time again the closer you are to someone in strength, the harder the fight.

While I definitely think as the story goes on it's fully possible for us to see new feats and hype that could change the order of my list, I just think for now, Akainu is second highest up. I think it's silly to assume anyone will be in the place in the list we think they are now permanently, that it could never change or be retconned, or that the top tier has overwhelming gaps between the people in them.

So while I think Akainu has a good chance of defeating some of those top tiers, I see it being a Lucci/Luffy kind of fight.

Marines are not equal to all the Yonko. They have schibukai for a reason.but marines can beat any yonkos not a 1v1. So yonko beating akainu is not far fetched as marines still have high quality fighters in excess compared to any one yonko.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

At this point in time, Kaido can surely defeat Akainu. Shanks, Dragon, Aokiji, Kizaru, and the other Yonko should be able to push him to extreme diff and can possibly win, but I see Akainu being more likely to win with everyone there except Shanks.

What about Mihawk?