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Hidan, Mizuki and that Mob Boss from Zabuza Arc
Hidan, Mizuki and that Mob Boss from Zabuza Arc
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There is no such thing as "pure evil", or "pure good". As much as we'd like to believe that reality is always black and white, that isn't the case. All of it is relative. Good and bad, sweet and sour, pretty and ugly, right or wrong. It all depends on who you ask, and what their perceptions are. There is ALWAYS a gray area, if you think critically. Some here say that Itachi is an evil monster, and it doesn't matter that he slaughtered his own family for peace. To them, it is absolutely inexcusable. To others, it is excusable, and they don't think he is a villain at all. Even in more extreme cases, like Orochimaru. In my own opinion, he is the closest thing to "evil" in the series. Or, he was. He didn't have an excuse for being so twisted like the other villains do. He doesn't give a single **** about anybody, other than himself, and he is willing to kill women or children who stand in his way. For personal gain, not the "greater good". Even with him, there is gray if you dig deep enough. Not a lot about his past has been revealed, but he clearly had a very difficult, painful upbringing. All people are born with a clean state. When you're born, you cannot conceptualize right from wrong, or good from evil. You're LITERALLY a blank page, waiting to be written on. Even Hitler was an innocent child at some point in his life. Why did he become what he became? Only he truly knows the answer to that, but it's safe to assume he didn't have the happiest childhood.
So, Orochimaru is my pick for "most evil" in this series. In Bleach, I go with Aizen. Completely self absorbed, and driven to achieve his goal no matter what the cost. Even betraying his own subordinates the moment he no longer needed them. People who literally worshipped and idolized the guy. And what he did to Hinamori is one of the most evil things I have ever seen in an anime, if not THE most evil. It was proof that he does take great joy in the suffering he causes. After listening to Toshiro's rant, and knowing how much he cared for Hinamori, he goes out of his way to have Toshiro run her through with his own sword. For no reason other than to hurt him even more. He enjoys causing pain before slaughtering hordes of people. His relationship with Hinamori is the best example of an "evil" deed. I mean leading her to believe that he's some great man, and going as far as to make her literally obsess over him. Knowing she wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice her own life for his. After betraying her, and leaving her for dead, he STILL has her closest friend stab her from behind.... Yeah, the guys a really ****ing psycho. But we don't know his past. It would take a lot to get me to believe he was justified in anyway, but it is possible.
PLOT TWIST: Gaara really still is a twisted psychopath. The villagers just don't like to question him when he can drown them all in sand at any moment.
Is this a joke, or a real response? Are you trying to tell me that an infant born mere seconds ago is already selfish, and bad? Are you incapable of critical thought? Did you really not read my post? My point is that, in the US, you'd say that anybody who rapes and murders a child evil, correct? That's our perception. Why is it, though? Everything is relative, and contrasting. Since you didn't create existence, YOU cannot decide what is and is not evil. You can have your opinion on what it, and is not evil, but nothing more. Just because you believe something is evil doesn't mean that EVERYBODY in existence agrees with you. There is absolutely no action anybody could possibly take to make every conscious being in the entire multiverse to think it was evil. Just because only 1 out of 0928374508974590872309485708932458-71659872365045023458 disagrees doesn't make him wrong. It only means that he has a different perception on things. Opinions are opinions. You can't argue opinions. You can only argue facts. The fact is that absolutely nothing that has ever existed, or will ever exist, will be either fully evil, or fully good.
Everybody is borne innocent and free selfish thoughts, its how we are brought up is how we act and think!
We are all entitled to our opinions, and because we are all entitled to our opinions we all have to be accepting to others opinions.
Your posts were both awesome! great to read.
you remind me of all the movieverse loki fangirls. "HE JUST NEEDS A HUUUG" never mind the fact hes homicidal, manipulatieve and malevolenthe was a cutie with no evil intentions as I said, he was just mistreated
what is evil? different people have different perceptions.
i think itachi was evil to the end. i mean the last thing he says is "gee i love you bro. even though you want to drown everything i ever loved in innocent blood! yeah sure commit genocide and kil children. i still love you!" he felt no guilt for abandoning anko or letting sasuke go knowing what he was going to do next.
kakuzu, hidan, sound 4, deidara all stayed evil to the core to the end. and indeed obito and madara. having a sympathetic backstroy does not justify mass horrible crimes.
you remind me of all the movieverse loki fangirls. "HE JUST NEEDS A HUUUG" never mind the fact hes homicidal, manipulatieve and malevolent
Remember the time when Orochimaru was like this [video=youtube;k7SmvLQ-4Jw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7SmvLQ-4Jw[/video] ??
Here's the list of the retconns in no particular order:
- Momochi Zabuza
- Uchiha Itachi
- Hanzou
- Danzou
- Gaara's dad
- Yakushi Kabuto
- Hoshigaki Kisame
- Kimimaro
- Konan
- Nagato
- Zetsu
- Gaara
- Nine-tailed-fox demon
- Uchiha Madara
- Sasori
- Tobito
- Orochimaru (?)
- Sasuke (?)
- Suigetsu (?)
I'll update the list in time