Which point of the series did team 7 surpass their sanin?

[Rikudou Tobi]

I agree with @salamander uchiha+ for the most part but for Naruto it's a special case. Since Jiraiya uses

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, that means Pain arc Naruto is only stronger for the first few minutes of their fight.
So you can make an argument that he surpassed him when he learned Kyubi chakra mode for the first time but if you want to be 100% literal then you would have to say War arc Sm Naruto surpassed Jiraiya.

Hebi Sasuke surpassed armless Orochimaru but with arms I would say MS Sasuke or possible EMS if you count his EdoTensei. Sakura reached Tsunade with 100 healings, I do not believe she surpassed Tsunade because only Tsunade's 100 healings can have her body completely severed then re-attached back again using Katsuyu. Sakura would instantly die if her body was severed completely like Tsunade's did during the edo Madara fight.

 

[To Whatever]

They surpassed them at war arc

 

[Mellanoma]

I'll have to disagree Jiraiya has senjutsu and two toad sages who he has synergy with to back him up. At KCM Naruto still had to worry about Kurama. Then he also has to worry about their combo attacks even with clones. Rasengan variants wont help him much against them. Naruto with KCM couldn't really tag the 3rd Raikage who was being controlled and was forced to rely on SM for it's superior sensory abilities. Jiraiya has the very same abilities and the two sages assisting him.

Based on Jiraiya performance against Pain Id have to say KCM Naruto would beat Jiraiya

As for 3rd Raikage statement Jiraiya and 3rd are completely two different animals.

Raikage is impentrable with the exception to his Solo Finger.
Raikage is also much faster than Jiraiya although he lacks the insight.


If KCM and his clones are capable of killing 1 of the toads its downhill immediately after. Hell the clones were using Rasenshuriken so I imagine 2-3 clones firing Rasenshuriken is a PRESSURED gg for Naruto. This would be an interesting fight though. Should probably do a vs thread.


In regards to the clones: What Madara is saying is correct. If you are against a stronger opponent there really is no point in splitting your chakra it only hinders you more.

 

[FemmeFatale]

War arc for all of them

Y’all are disgustingly underestimating the sannin

Surpassing isn’t being able to beat them, surpasses is elevating beyond there level of skill. Don’t forget a butter knife can cut meat,, but a steak knife is a little easier, didn’t mean that the butter knife isn’t as useful as the steak knife, but the steak knife can do what the butter knife can..and more .

Tbh Sakura surpasses Kakashi when she climbed the tree and countered genjutsu. After that it was no more he could teach her, you guys don’t know what surpass mean.

Early part 2 Sakura was more or less on par with tsuande, she only lacked her full power (byakugou) which is why she said that and was using jutsu easily and instantly for the first time

 

[To Whatever]

Surpassing isn’t being able to beat them, surpasses is elevating beyond there level of skill. Don’t forget a butter knife can cut meat,, but a steak knife is a little easier, didn’t mean that the butter knife isn’t as useful as the steak knife, but the steak knife can do what the butter knife can..and more .

Tbh Sakura surpasses Kakashi when she climbed the tree and countered genjutsu. After that it was no more he could teach her, you guys don’t know what surpass mean.

Early part 2 Sakura was more or less on par with tsuande, she only lacked her full power (byakugou) which is why she said that and was using jutsu easily and instantly for the first time

Agreed sarada solos