Which one is stronger? Zoro or Sanji!

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2. What do you mean some people. Only delusional sword wankers say arm strength >>> sword strength.
3. Zoro can keep up with Sanji because of his insane reaction speed. Movement speed belongs to Sanji, and is faster, but it doesn't mean Sanji is faster Zoro can't hit him. You should know the difference between reaction speed and movement speed.
5. Lol, Gomu Gomu no Hanabi? Robin took the SHs by surprise in their first meeting. She wasn't in any way physically stronger than the M3 in any point of the series. Sanji can throw more attacks at the same time, hello Frying Pan: Spectrum?

I know Zoro wins, it's just not like a cakewalk like some members are trying to show here.
I never said arm strength>>>>sword strength...
3.I know thats what I said but you said Sanji could outrun the speed Zoro slices at (or at least I interpreted it that way)....
I know she took them by surprise what I meant was when you and your opponent are more less even overall whoever can throw more attacks will more likely win... And Flying Pan: Spectrum or The 9 sword style Asura thing? I think the 9 swords win xd

And I never said it would be easy for Zoro I said anything could happen between mid and hard difficulty... But I dont think Sanji could push Zoro to the point of where Zoro would just just survive... Cause Oda showed on multiple occasions that Zoro>Sanji in fighting (cause Sanji can also cook so theyre roles in the crew are balanced he had to make Zoro stronger in combat) Like when they fought Kuma Zoro pushed Sanji over and took all of Luffy's pain or when he fought Hodi underwater and the fact that he was second to join the crew... which is why IMO in a fight Zoro>Sanji
 

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I never said arm strength>>>>sword strength...
3.I know thats what I said but you said Sanji could outrun the speed Zoro slices at (or at least I interpreted it that way)....
I know she took them by surprise what I meant was when you and your opponent are more less even overall whoever can throw more attacks will more likely win... And Flying Pan: Spectrum or The 9 sword style Asura thing? I think the 9 swords win xd

And I never said it would be easy for Zoro I said anything could happen between mid and hard difficulty... But I dont think Sanji could push Zoro to the point of where Zoro would just just survive... Cause Oda showed on multiple occasions that Zoro>Sanji in fighting (cause Sanji can also cook so theyre roles in the crew are balanced he had to make Zoro stronger in combat) Like when they fought Kuma Zoro pushed Sanji over and took all of Luffy's pain or when he fought Hodi underwater and the fact that he was second to join the crew... which is why IMO in a fight Zoro>Sanji
2. You didn't say it. You implied it.
3. Luffy threw more attacks against Crocodile in their first fight, did Luffy win? There is also a difference between Spectrum and Asura. Spectrum is a normal technique while Asura is a finisher.

Yes we know, but MID difficulty? Yeah right.
 

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It will be close, Sanji has gotten really fast and his kicks are surely harder than the ones from Ecki, so Zorro won't have a good time fighting Sanji. Anyway Zoro would win in the end.
 

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*sees Cali watching thread, thinking it's time to end this with a wall-o-text-no-jutsu*
This thread has gotten too far people, anyone can have his opinion
 
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2. You didn't say it. You implied it.
3. Luffy threw more attacks against Crocodile in their first fight, did Luffy win? There is also a difference between Spectrum and Asura. Spectrum is a normal technique while Asura is a finisher.

Yes we know, but MID difficulty? Yeah right.
I never implied anything... -_-
Luffy threw more attacks but their gap in overall power was too big... and crocodile wasnt trying in the first fight cause he knew Luffy had no chance... he basically just stood there and laughed...
And? Zoro has plenty of other moves that match Sanji's and if we did finisher vs finisher (Diable Jambe vs Asura) Asura would surely win....
I said the battle could end anywhere depending on the area and on their new powers (cause we didnt see too much at fishman island)
 

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Zoro and that's pretty certain considering Oda has implied that on numerous occasions on several ways. It would definitely not be an easy fight, but that Zoro is still a lvl above Sanji is quite certain.

1) Zoro has always beaten the person who was confirmed to be the 2nd strongest of the opposing enemies: Daz Bones, the sunglasses guy on Skypea, Kaku, Hyouzou...

2) Zoro was the first person after Luffy who got a bounty and even after Sanji got a bounty too, Zoro's has always been higher. Zoro was part of the Eleven Supernova's, Sanji wasn't.

3) People are afraid of Zoro, he's considered by most people as the most dangerous member of the crew outside Luffy and is Luffy's first mate. They have said on multiple occasions that he could be a captain on his own. None of those things apply to Sanji.

4) One of the most symbolical scenes out of OP is when Zoro knocks out Sanji and takes all the damage Luffy took after Moria's fight. Due to that situation you can't say that Zoro "beat" Sanji that way, however the symbolical meaning behind it is clear: Zoro is the number 2 of the group, not Sanji.

5) The only person who has shown a greater resolve than Zoro is Luffy.

Zoro is stronger and that's not something you can deny as Oda has stated that frequently. It would be far from an easy fight, but in the end he's going to have the edge on Sanji.

Well... I would say Zoro with difficulty.

My reasoning is because Sanji is much stronger than given credit for when being compared with Zoro and Luffy. Also, most are probably saying Zoro because of his swords and being able to cut Sanji but people are acting like Sanji can't fight a sword user? Theres been plenty of seens in the anime (Just an example, don't give me thats not manga crap) where u see Sanji fighting with Zoro even when he is using his swords and u notice Sanji always kicking them away.

IMO If Sanji could get a clean Diable Jinbe (spelling) on Zoro, it could possibly finish him. Plus how can Zoro even catch Sanji? Sanji not only can use Sky walk to take him to the skys but he is the fastest straw hat excluding Luffy's gear 2nd so I doubt those Air slashes can catch him. Not to mention setting his body on fire which could also hurt Zoro.

Im not saying Sanji can beat Zoro but I don't know where u guys are getting this "Easily" stuff from =/
There have never been such serious scenes. Nami just blasted Zoro, Luffy and Sanji miles away, how's that possible? And when a swordsman is on the same lvl or higher than a martial artist, he has the advantage. That's just shear logic. If the martial artist is stronger than the weapons don't really matter.

About the bolded part it's utterly useless to say such things. If Zoro can get one slash on Sanji, it could possibly finish him too. Such comments are completely worthless as if you get seastone cuffs on an admiral, even Buggy could potentially kill him. And Sanji probably has the edge when it comes to running speed, however that's something completely different than having the speed to execute your attacks. Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world, do you think he's going to kick or hit faster than a martial artist? There is nothing that indicates Zoro is slower in the execution. On top of that Zoro is ridiculous fast too, he was able to dodge a bullet at nearly point-blank range and close the gap with the shooter in an instant. You also forget that Zoro already has beaten once an opponent who could use the Sky Walk skill and that Sanji can dodge and walk as much as he wants in the sky, it is not going to give him any victory. Unlike Sanji, Zoro has several long range attacks and some of them are very large scaled. If Sanji wants to beat Zoro, he will have to come close and the closer he gets, the higher the chances are he gets hit.

Zoro has been on fire before and to set him on fire he first needs to pass his swords.

I tried to convince you with arguments but now I know i was talking to an obsessed fanboy i'll stop after proving you wrong OR making you fail (because you like to say that) one more time.

Sanji has the most "tricks" of the whole mugiwara crew, but instead of a trick maybe you should see it as an attack. Tricks are stuff clowns do, you should know that.

Take a look here:


Don't give me the bullshit:


I can prove that Sanji has fishman speed, you can't prove that Zoro is just as fast/faster. So instead of ignoring it by calling it bullshit, Sanji's speed is his weapon.

Sanji showed to be a great tactician when it comes to battle. So when he is evading attacks using skywalk he can think of a way to surprise the enemy with a diable jambe to the face with fishman speed.

So you and all the other people who think that Zoro will have an easy fight "fail"

Remember Usopp vs Luffy ?, don't underestimate a Mugiwara
He might have the most attacks, though they are the less diverse than most of the other strawhat members.

Zoro cut Hodi Jones in the water, they even said that how it could be possible that a human was faster than a fishman in water. So that Zoro's speed exceed that of a fishman has been pretty much proven, but Sanji is probably faster than a fishman too. And as I said there's a difference between running speed and the speed of your movements. Sanji can't really block Zoro's attacks, he has to evade, while Zoro can block Sanji's attacks.
 
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Zoro and that's pretty certain considering Oda has implied that on numerous occasions on several ways. It would definitely not be an easy fight, but that Zoro is still a lvl above Sanji is quite certain.

1) Zoro has always beaten the person who was confirmed to be the 2nd strongest of the opposing enemies: Daz Bones, the sunglasses guy on Skypea, Kaku, Hyouzou...

2) Zoro was the first person after Luffy who got a bounty and even after Sanji got a bounty too, Zoro's has always been higher. Zoro was part of the Eleven Supernova's, Sanji wasn't.

3) People are afraid of Zoro, he's considered by most people as the most dangerous member of the crew outside Luffy and is Luffy's first mate. They have said on multiple occasions that he could be a captain on his own. None of those things apply to Sanji.

4) One of the most symbolical scenes out of OP is when Zoro knocks out Sanji and takes all the damage Luffy took after Moria's fight. Due to that situation you can't say that Zoro "beat" Sanji that way, however the symbolical meaning behind it is clear: Zoro is the number 2 of the group, not Sanji.

5) The only person who has shown a greater resolve than Zoro is Luffy.

Zoro is stronger and that's not something you can deny as Oda has stated that frequently. It would be far from an easy fight, but in the end he's going to have the edge on Sanji.



There have never been such serious scenes. Nami just blasted Zoro, Luffy and Sanji miles away, how's that possible? And when a swordsman is on the same lvl or higher than a martial artist, he has the advantage. That's just shear logic. If the martial artist is stronger than the weapons don't really matter.

About the bolded part it's utterly useless to say such things. If Zoro can get one slash on Sanji, it could possibly finish him too. Such comments are completely worthless as if you get seastone cuffs on an admiral, even Buggy could potentially kill him. And Sanji probably has the edge when it comes to running speed, however that's something completely different than having the speed to execute your attacks. Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world, do you think he's going to kick or hit faster than a martial artist? There is nothing that indicates Zoro is slower in the execution. On top of that Zoro is ridiculous fast too, he was able to dodge a bullet at nearly point-blank range and close the gap with the shooter in an instant. You also forget that Zoro already has beaten once an opponent who could use the Sky Walk skill and that Sanji can dodge and walk as much as he wants in the sky, it is not going to give him any victory. Unlike Sanji, Zoro has several long range attacks and some of them are very large scaled. If Sanji wants to beat Zoro, he will have to come close and the closer he gets, the higher the chances are he gets hit.

Zoro has been on fire before and to set him on fire he first needs to pass his swords.



He might have the most attacks, though they are the less diverse than most of the other strawhat members.

Zoro cut Hodi Jones in the water, they even said that how it could be possible that a human was faster than a fishman in water. So that Zoro's speed exceed that of a fishman has been pretty much proven, but Sanji is probably faster than a fishman too. And as I said there's a difference between running speed and the speed of your movements. Sanji can't really block Zoro's attacks, he has to evade, while Zoro can block Sanji's attacks.

Text-o-wal-no-jutsu... rep+ man I was trying to say some of these things but I could never make it as clear as you have... awesome post xd
 

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Zoro and that's pretty certain considering Oda has implied that on numerous occasions on several ways. It would definitely not be an easy fight, but that Zoro is still a lvl above Sanji is quite certain.

1) Zoro has always beaten the person who was confirmed to be the 2nd strongest of the opposing enemies: Daz Bones, the sunglasses guy on Skypea, Kaku, Hyouzou...

2) Zoro was the first person after Luffy who got a bounty and even after Sanji got a bounty too, Zoro's has always been higher. Zoro was part of the Eleven Supernova's, Sanji wasn't.

3) People are afraid of Zoro, he's considered by most people as the most dangerous member of the crew outside Luffy and is Luffy's first mate. They have said on multiple occasions that he could be a captain on his own. None of those things apply to Sanji.

4) One of the most symbolical scenes out of OP is when Zoro knocks out Sanji and takes all the damage Luffy took after Moria's fight. Due to that situation you can't say that Zoro "beat" Sanji that way, however the symbolical meaning behind it is clear: Zoro is the number 2 of the group, not Sanji.

5) The only person who has shown a greater resolve than Zoro is Luffy.

Zoro is stronger and that's not something you can deny as Oda has stated that frequently. It would be far from an easy fight, but in the end he's going to have the edge on Sanji.
There have never been such serious scenes. Nami just blasted Zoro, Luffy and Sanji miles away, how's that possible? And when a swordsman is on the same lvl or higher than a martial artist, he has the advantage. That's just shear logic. If the martial artist is stronger than the weapons don't really matter.
About the bolded part it's utterly useless to say such things. If Zoro can get one slash on Sanji, it could possibly finish him too. Such comments are completely worthless as if you get seastone cuffs on an admiral, even Buggy could potentially kill him. And Sanji probably has the edge when it comes to running speed, however that's something completely different than having the speed to execute your attacks. Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world, do you think he's going to kick or hit faster than a martial artist? There is nothing that indicates Zoro is slower in the execution. On top of that Zoro is ridiculous fast too, he was able to dodge a bullet at nearly point-blank range and close the gap with the shooter in an instant. You also forget that Zoro already has beaten once an opponent who could use the Sky Walk skill and that Sanji can dodge and walk as much as he wants in the sky, it is not going to give him any victory. Unlike Sanji, Zoro has several long range attacks and some of them are very large scaled. If Sanji wants to beat Zoro, he will have to come close and the closer he gets, the higher the chances are he gets hit.

Zoro has been on fire before and to set him on fire he first needs to pass his swords.

He might have the most attacks, though they are the less diverse than most of the other strawhat members.
Zoro cut Hodi Jones in the water, they even said that how it could be possible that a human was faster than a fishman in water. So that Zoro's speed exceed that of a fishman has been pretty much proven, but Sanji is probably faster than a fishman too. And as I said there's a difference between running speed and the speed of your movements. Sanji can't really block Zoro's attacks, he has to evade, while Zoro can block Sanji's attacks.
I was planning on bringing it to the table, good thing you did, saves me the trouble.U_U

Wtf :|... Why are u talkin as if Sanji would get pwned by Zoro? That mentality of swords and strength= Pwn is messed up. Ur basically saying Zoro can own anybody who don't use swords.
Stay on topic, Zoro can beat Sanji and there is nothing you can say about it, end of story.
 

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Zoro and that's pretty certain considering Oda has implied that on numerous occasions on several ways. It would definitely not be an easy fight, but that Zoro is still a lvl above Sanji is quite certain.

1) Zoro has always beaten the person who was confirmed to be the 2nd strongest of the opposing enemies: Daz Bones, the sunglasses guy on Skypea, Kaku, Hyouzou...

2) Zoro was the first person after Luffy who got a bounty and even after Sanji got a bounty too, Zoro's has always been higher. Zoro was part of the Eleven Supernova's, Sanji wasn't.

3) People are afraid of Zoro, he's considered by most people as the most dangerous member of the crew outside Luffy and is Luffy's first mate. They have said on multiple occasions that he could be a captain on his own. None of those things apply to Sanji.

4) One of the most symbolical scenes out of OP is when Zoro knocks out Sanji and takes all the damage Luffy took after Moria's fight. Due to that situation you can't say that Zoro "beat" Sanji that way, however the symbolical meaning behind it is clear: Zoro is the number 2 of the group, not Sanji.

5) The only person who has shown a greater resolve than Zoro is Luffy.

Zoro is stronger and that's not something you can deny as Oda has stated that frequently. It would be far from an easy fight, but in the end he's going to have the edge on Sanji.
While you put forward valid points, I still have to disagree with some things.

1) It is true Zoro usually fights the second strongest but look at the names you called, these people are swordsmen except for Braham and it is implied he was the third strongest. If we go back to the Arlong Arc, Zoro fought against Hachi instead of fighting against Kuroobi (it was implied he was the second strongest) which Sanji fought against. Fast forward to Thriller Bark, Zoro fought against Ryuma, a General Zombie while Sanji fought against Absalom, one of the Mysterious Four in command of the General Zombies and I know Ryuma and Absalom strengths’ are debatable and their rank doesn’t matter but that is just it, it doesn’t matter. Whether the opponent is the strongest or weakest Zoro is usually matched up against a swordsman.

2) Bounties are not power levels. They just show the threat the World Government believes they are to them. It’s safe to assume Sanji is one of the top three fighters in the Straw Hats but he has the fourth highest bounty in the crew because Robin is considered more of a threat to the World Government than him.

3) I do agree. Zoro’s reputation does perceive him.

4) Also agree here, when the captain isn’t around, the first mate steps up and assumes his role.

5) I guess this point is debatable but I can’t contradict you because resolve can be perceived in different ways.

In my opinion they are evenly matched but it is strongly implied that Zoro has the upper hand.

Generally I don’t mind these sorts of topics but for One Piece, it might be a little different. In my opinion a few people are posting with a “Drangonball, Naruto, Bleach” mindset and I’m not trying to start anything but to me there is no such thing as power levels in One Piece. Usually the character upgrades his techniques and learns new moves. I see threads posted asking if “Luffy is on Shichibukai or Admiral Level” and while we all read the same thing, not once have I ever thought of Shichibukai as a level, I thought it was a position given to those with a reputation. Admiral can be debatable but I only saw it as a rank in the Marines but maybe it’s just me.
 

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While you put forward valid points, I still have to disagree with some things.

1) It is true Zoro usually fights the second strongest but look at the names you called, these people are swordsmen except for Braham and it is implied he was the third strongest. If we go back to the Arlong Arc, Zoro fought against Hachi instead of fighting against Kuroobi (it was implied he was the second strongest) which Sanji fought against. Fast forward to Thriller Bark, Zoro fought against Ryuma, a General Zombie while Sanji fought against Absalom, one of the Mysterious Four in command of the General Zombies and I know Ryuma and Absalom strengths’ are debatable and their rank doesn’t matter but that is just it, it doesn’t matter. Whether the opponent is the strongest or weakest Zoro is usually matched up against a swordsman.

2) Bounties are not power levels. They just show the threat the World Government believes they are to them. It’s safe to assume Sanji is one of the top three fighters in the Straw Hats but he has the fourth highest bounty in the crew because Robin is considered more of a threat to the World Government than him.

3) I do agree. Zoro’s reputation does perceive him.

4) Also agree here, when the captain isn’t around, the first mate steps up and assumes his role.

5) I guess this point is debatable but I can’t contradict you because resolve can be perceived in different ways.

In my opinion they are evenly matched but it is strongly implied that Zoro has the upper hand.

Generally I don’t mind these sorts of topics but for One Piece, it might be a little different. In my opinion a few people are posting with a “Drangonball, Naruto, Bleach” mindset and I’m not trying to start anything but to me there is no such thing as power levels in One Piece. Usually the character upgrades his techniques and learns new moves. I see threads posted asking if “Luffy is on Shichibukai or Admiral Level” and while we all read the same thing, not once have I ever thought of Shichibukai as a level, I thought it was a position given to those with a reputation. Admiral can be debatable but I only saw it as a rank in the Marines but maybe it’s just me.
1.it would seem every crew has a swordsman amongst them and are usually 2nd strongest behind the captain...SH, Croc, even out of the supernovas only 2 arent captains..both are swordsmen (zoro n killer)
2. yes bounties arent exactly power level but can be used as a rough guideline. since we are talkin about the same crew the threat towards the government is the same since the crew acts under the cptains orders, and within that crew the bounties would show how strong they are relative to each other..robins bounty was given to her before she became a strawhat hence why it didnt change much..but the fact that she's from ohara surpasses her combat threat
5.when ussop left the crew and sanji told luffy that ussop was in the city..it was zoro that stepped in and reminded everyone whats at stake. when luffy was injured in thrillar bark zoro knew sanji couldn handle the pain so he took it onto himself..from wherever u look zoro's resolve can be said to be only 2nd to luffy
 

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There have never been such serious scenes. Nami just blasted Zoro, Luffy and Sanji miles away, how's that possible? And when a swordsman is on the same lvl or higher than a martial artist, he has the advantage. That's just shear logic. If the martial artist is stronger than the weapons don't really matter.

About the bolded part it's utterly useless to say such things. If Zoro can get one slash on Sanji, it could possibly finish him too. Such comments are completely worthless as if you get seastone cuffs on an admiral, even Buggy could potentially kill him. And Sanji probably has the edge when it comes to running speed, however that's something completely different than having the speed to execute your attacks. Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world, do you think he's going to kick or hit faster than a martial artist? There is nothing that indicates Zoro is slower in the execution. On top of that Zoro is ridiculous fast too, he was able to dodge a bullet at nearly point-blank range and close the gap with the shooter in an instant. You also forget that Zoro already has beaten once an opponent who could use the Sky Walk skill and that Sanji can dodge and walk as much as he wants in the sky, it is not going to give him any victory. Unlike Sanji, Zoro has several long range attacks and some of them are very large scaled. If Sanji wants to beat Zoro, he will have to come close and the closer he gets, the higher the chances are he gets hit.

Zoro has been on fire before and to set him on fire he first needs to pass his swords.
At bolded parts:


1.) That was just to get a point across. It is true that Zoro can potentially kill Sanji, but its the same vice-versa.

2.) The 2nd bolded... What? Speed does matter how you execute your attacks. Sanji is so fast with his legs that it looks like a barrage of one leg is attacking u. When Sanji moves, obviously he is using his legs as that is how every normal human being walks. Sanji moves so fast that he disappears when moving (Its only been shown underwater and in the sky but imagine how fast he is on dry land)*using his legs* and if his whole fighting style is based around his legs, what makes u think he's not fast when executing moves?

3.) Zoro has already beaten someone who can use sky walk... If ur talkin about Kaku, last I checked, they were fighting in a confined area where there wasn't much use in using Sky walk.

I told u already that I already believe Zoro will win but u guys are talkin as if Zoro is too much for Sanji to handle.

Oh and Bountys don't mean nothing in terms of power. As u said in another thread a Bounty portrays how much of a threat u are to the world government. Chopper has a bounty of 50 but we know full well he is stronger than Ussop who has a bounty of 30 million. Sanji is stronger than Robin but he has a lower bounty.
 
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