Which is Stronger? Uchiha or Senju?

Which is Stronger?

  • Uchiha

    Votes: 89 21.8%
  • Senju

    Votes: 194 47.5%
  • They are equal

    Votes: 125 30.6%

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Disquiet

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Ok so are you saying Madara got the rinnegan because of the senju cells
or because its the next time after sharigan on its own.

But i have a question explain the older son Eye since he was born the the sages eye...doesnt look like the sage eyes to me, more like a mutation. Since Uchia were direct descendants explain that.
I'm saying that even when kabuto told madara that he and oro figured out how rinnegan was achieved, madara never assumed that kabuto knew about him having senju cells, why? if kabuto knew how an uchiha gained rinnegan, how would he not know that he had senju cells if the senju cells is how you get them?


later, kabuto revealed to him that he knows about him having senju cells, madara then becomes surprised and checks his shirt for something. after realizing this, and that kabuto knew about him having the senju's dna, he then proceeded to use the wood element.

and as for the eyes, it looks to me that it became diluted through time, it first started by the father giving giving it through a new generation(his elder son) that is when this dilution began. generations later, it became known as the sharingan, remember, even the sharingan now doesn't look like the elder son's eyes, yet the both came through the same blood. the elder son's eyes were more similar to the rinnegan, they just spiraled instead of circling, so through time, it became even more different.
 

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It's not fanboyism. It's called facts. And it's reality. Besides, what part of the manga cleared that Senju is stronger? You didn't answer that yet
I already showed you a scan of it. Tobi clearly thought they would exterminate the Uchiha clan and don't give me the bs about him being paranoid because that's nothing but speculation on your part. Sorry my friend but i use facts and maybe you should try to do the same.
 

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Uchiha fanboys love to go against facts from the manga. I just smdh. Madara was Hashirama's lapdog while he was alive lmao. He also got a beatdown even with the kyuubi because he was out of line. Facts are facts and if you don't like it then write a letter to Kishi.
And this is what you call facts :flaw:. Both were more than a match for each other. Occasionally encountering the other
 

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It's not fanboyism. It's called facts. And it's reality. Besides, what part of the manga cleared that Senju is stronger? You didn't answer that yet
the realyti is in your mind were is the proof that madara let hin win we seee how gaara get him out of susano,hashirama do the same we wood element madara lost..
 

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-He chose Senju brother because he believed in his ideals but that doesn't make the brother stronger

True

-Madara purposely wanted to lose that battle in order to win the war
Not true, baseless assumption at best.

-Uchiha can access the Sharingan without killing each other. Regardless, that's how they become stronger. Any problem with that?
Just the fact that Senjus can become as strong as EMS uchiha's without reducing their numbers means if you do the math, it takes at least 3 uchiha's to gain one EMS while it takes only one senju to equal the uchiha with EMS, therefore you would need 3 uchiha to match the potential strength of one senju.

-Sharingan isn't rare in Uchiha clan. MS is rare in Uchiha clan.
It is rare, it is not guaranteed to be unlocked by just having uchiha blood. MS is rare among those who have unlocked the sharingan.
 
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I already showed you a scan of it. Tobi clearly thought they would exterminate the Uchiha clan and don't give me the bs about him being paranoid because that's nothing but speculation on your part. Sorry my friend but i use facts and maybe you should try to do the same.
*Sigh* You gave me a statement of Tobi. The person who said that he was Madara Uchiha. Was it a fact? No. Was in from the manga? Yes. Therefore, I'm sticking to what I believe until you have a concrete basis.
 

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Madara wouldn't even let anybody say Hashirama's name around him. Yea that's because he had that Uchiha tamed like a pet lmao.

*Sigh* You gave me a statement of Tobi. The person who said that he was Madara Uchiha. Was it a fact? No. Was in from the manga? Yes. Therefore, I'm sticking to what I believe until you have a concrete basis.
I backup my claims with facts while you backup yours with speculation. Do you see the difference?

I have work tomorrow and it's 2 in the morning here, so i'm out. Peace.
 
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True


Not true, baseless assumption at best.


Just the fact that Senjus can become as strong as EMS uchiha's without reducing their numbers means if you do the math, it takes at least 3 uchiha's to gain one EMS while it takes only one senju to equal the uchiha with EMS, therefore you would need 3 uchiha to match the potential strength of one senju.


It is rare, it is not guaranteed to be unlocked by just having uchiha blood. MS is rare among those who have unlocked the sharingan.
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I knew you would say these.

1. Madara purposely lost.



2. Sharingan is unlocked through intense situations. When the Uchiha goes to some mission which would be dire, their sharingan will most likely to unlock. But MS needs is rare.

3. 3 Uchihas? Why? Besides Hashirama, give me another Senju whos power rivals an EMS Uchiha. Uchiha in Sharingan stage is already equal to a Normal Senju,.
 

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It's time we conclude this.

Senju is a clan descended from the younger son of the Sot6P. They inherited the Sage's body, willpower and physical energy that's why they were experts in Ninjutsus, Taijutsus and Genjutsus. They cannot achieve Rinnegan due to the fact that they inherited the body of the Sot6P and not his eyes.

The Uchiha is a clan descended from the older son of the Sot6P. They inherited the Sage's eyes, powerful chakra and spiritual energies. That's why they have great chakra and have powerful Sharingans. But since only they inherited the Sage's eyes, only they too can achieve the Rinnegan.

But since everyone is telling Senju is strongest or Uchiha is strongest, which clan is really the strongest?
No way to answer this, really. We don't know enough about the senju clan.

But i'd say the senju clans has had stronger individuals, like hashirama etc while overall the average uchiha is stronger than the average senju due to sharingan.
 

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1. Madara purposely lost.

You just scrutinized The Fourth Hokage of the Leaf for using a Tobi statement in place of a madara statement, and now you are using a statement Tobi made about madara and take it as a fact about madara.

And this statement doesn't even imply that he lost on purpose. It just says that despite losing, he still won the battle in the long run.
2. Sharingan is unlocked through intense situations. When the Uchiha goes to some mission which would be dire, their sharingan will most likely to unlock. But MS needs is rare.
Sasuke explains that sharingan is unlocked by a select few of the uchiha clan, meaning not nearly all of its members, more like the minority.
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3. 3 Uchihas? Why? Besides Hashirama, give me another Senju whos power rivals an EMS Uchiha. Uchiha in Sharingan stage is already equal to a Normal Senju,. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
Not saying that there are other Senjus that have power to rival EMS uchiha, but they all have the potential to grow that strong without sacrificing their clansmen, however uchiha's need to kill at least 3 in order to gain an EMS, and one of those being an MS user.
 
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Senju were the ones who wanted peace because they were gonna get their ass whooped. Madara knew this too and if the battle continued Uchiha would have f***ed Senju badly as soon as Itachi Uchiha would be born, also Sasuke Uchiha. So, Uchiha would kill the Senju.
u dont see in manga uchiha bodies been burred when they were in war with the senju and if they r strong as u say when did uchiha madara lose to the 1s hokage.
 

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You just scrutinized The Fourth Hokage of the Leaf for using a Tobi statement in place of a madara statement, and now you are using a statement Tobi made about madara and take it as a fact about madara.

And this statement doesn't even imply that he lost on purpose. It just says that despite losing, he still won the battle in the long run.


Sasuke explains that sharingan is unlocked by a select few of the uchiha clan, meaning not nearly all of its members, more like the minority.
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Not saying that there are other Senjus that have power to rival EMS uchiha, but they all have the potential to grow that strong without sacrificing their clansmen, however uchiha's need to kill at least 3 in order to gain an EMS, and one of those being an MS user.
lolz wow couldnt have said it better myself
you basically just used his own words against him lolz

& yea actually 4 uchia

1 close friend/family dies...awaken MS.
Another close friend dies..another MS user is born
Kill another MS user...
Steal their eyes and now you have EMS

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They are equally gifted, its upto the individual to train hard and improve their kkg. For ex. obito was an uchiha hut he was weaker than kakashi at same age.

Kishi has always shown them as equals , if in case they were not that would spoil the story and the fight between sasuke and naruto.
 

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Any proofs on why Senju is slightly stronger? Please, do give us a link of the manga chapter which "made that quite clear by now" ? If the Senju were the ones who will exterminate Uchiha, then why offer a peace treaty when they were "winning" ?
senju was peace because uchihas are dying battle they fought with the senju its even in the manga uchiha bodies a berried include izuna due to their war with senju
 
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