Which is faster? flying thunder god or body flicker technique?

[loj]

Having two hands wouldn't make a different. Madara reacted faster to minato's own jutsu then Minato did. Plus Minato was in sage mode too, that should've increased his awareness greatly!

That's the problem...Kishi is sometimes a good and sometimes a bad writer.

Minato is ultra fast and I refuse to belive that Minato couldn't dodge that.It was juts plot.Left Minato without hands since he would help Naruto and Sasuke too much.Kishi is too NaruSasu centered and I hate it.

 

[Nagi]

That's the problem...Kishi is sometimes a good and sometimes a bad writer.

Minato is ultra fast and I refuse to belive that Minato couldn't dodge that.It was juts plot.Left Minato without hands since he would help Naruto and Sasuke too much.Kishi is too NaruSasu centered and I hate it.

Very true. Shit is sad!

 

[solorflare99]

It's literally not instant....

In order to be instant you have to appear in a new location in the same time your still in your current location... Meaning no time has passed, ftg has never shown Minato to be in 2 places at once nor has shunshin so its clear its not, but its just so fast no average human/shinobi can perceive its speed let alone time it...

I know that, but this is a fictional universe in which those laws don't apply. It be impossible for an object to go from 0 to faster than the speed of sound without breaking the sound barrier but it happens anyway when characters use shushin. are we going to say shunshin isn't faster than sound speed now? Also it is impossible for FTG to be speed when he have seen him it pass through walls and even chakra barriers no problem. And a jutsu that goes faster than any ninja can perceive already exist and is said to be too dangerous for humans be the subject of. With exception of A(3rd),A(4th), and tsunade.

 

[Da Best Ever]

That's the problem...Kishi is sometimes a good and sometimes a bad writer.

Minato is ultra fast and I refuse to belive that Minato couldn't dodge that.It was juts plot.Left Minato without hands since he would help Naruto and Sasuke too much.Kishi is too NaruSasu centered and I hate it.

What you believe and what actually happened are two different things and only what happened is fact... That's all that matters


Godara showed time and time again why he stands out. Examples...

1. Used kamui as juubi jin after juubito who's is the original owner and master of kamui said he couldn't not do it as jin...

2. Absorbed Hashirama's sage mode and mastered it instantly and even said it was small and easy for him to control

3. Upon being revived he blitzed sm war arc Naruto and sai simultaneously sending them both flying back despite having no eyes and before he got hashirama's sm.

4. Instantly mastered juubi chakra despite Obito having it for a longer period of time.

4. Used hashirama's fabled mokuton jutsu's despite never having them and he even did it comparable to Hashirama as he was as edo.


Madara just does things that shouldn't surprise u...

Did you forget edo Madara blocked Tsuande's strike when she an Ay teleported out of the ethereal transportation jutsu which is supposed to be instant travel so if edo Madara can block attacks out of instant travel then it clearly makes sense fo4 Godara to counter them easily

 

[DrProof]

Body flicker is actually faster due to not having to use a kunai as a medium.

Body Flicker Application Speed >>> FTG

FTG end-speed >>> Bodyflicker.

 

[Da Best Ever]

I know that, but this is a fictional universe in which those laws don't apply. It be impossible for an object to go from 0 to faster than the speed of sound without breaking the sound barrier but it happens anyway when characters use shushin. are we going to say shunshin isn't faster than sound speed now? Also it is impossible for FTG to be speed when he have seen him it pass through walls and even chakra barriers no problem. And a jutsu that goes faster than any ninja can perceive already exist and is said to be too dangerous for humans be the subject of. With exception of A(3rd),A(4th), and tsunade.

Instant means what instant means, we in real life would say its instant if ftg could be used in real life because we would perceive it as the shinobi in Naruto perceive it and that is we can only see him from point A and then he appears at point B in an extremely fast manner that we can't keep track of with our eyes however as proven it is not instant and no jutsu is instant

 

[solorflare99]

Instant means what instant means, we in real life would say its instant if ftg could be used in real life because we would perceive it as the shinobi in Naruto perceive it and that is we can only see him from point A and then he appears at point be in an extremely fast manner that we can't keep track of with our eyes however as proven it is not instant and no jutsu is instant

You can perceive how fast it is by looking at a still image?

You sir have just negged you're self.

You haven't proven anything. all you have done is attempt to applies laws of logic to a fictional universe where logic has time and time again been denied in order make technique concepts. You think fictional writers are physicist? Some may but most aren't. They don't care if it doesn't make sense it still exist in their specific universe.

Explain this what happens in the time minato is going from point A to point B? where is Minato's body?

 

[Narutimate Storm]

Body flicker is actually faster due to not having to use a kunai as a medium.

Body Flicker Application Speed >>> FTG

FTG end-speed >>> Bodyflicker.

If that true, how did minato make 4 moves before Ei's shunshin?

Ftg made him look like he standing still

 

[Yata Mirror]

Too call FTG "fast" doesn't even make sense.

Speed is space/time, time must be a a positive number
Instantaneous teleportation is space/0

So it makes no sense. FTG isn't about how fast it is, but how fast the user reacts to the transition of being in point A to Point B.

This is why Madara cut Minato's arm off. He reacted faster to minato's own jutsu then Minato did.

This guy understands the physics behind teleportation. When Teleporting the time taken is zero which means the speed is infinite.. that is why FTG isn't about speed!
Shunshin takes some time, FTG take zero amount of time.. you can do the maths yourself

 

[Yata Mirror]

That's more proof its not instant travel

seriously? Minato appeared before Madara in an instant..
Minato trying to hit Madara with Rasengan is what wasn't instant and hence Madara was able to react to it..
FTG is just what carried Minato to his destination instantly. Minato trying to hit Madara depends on Minato's reflexes..
Is this that hard to understand??

 

[xxSAGExx]

Which is faster? flying thunder god or body flicker technique?

FTG is faster in terms of travel speed but overall the execution speed depends on the skill of the person using it. Minato was skilled in both Shunshin (body flicker) and FTG and was held the fastest out of his usage of both. You need to be skilled to make use of FTG, Minato is fast enough to spread his FTG marks all over the battle field really fast even when up against fast or powerful foes such as A and Bee. Shunshin depends on how much chakra you use and the chakra control.

 

[Yata Mirror]

FTG is faster in terms of travel speed but overall the execution speed depends on the skill of the person using it. Minato was skilled in both Shunshin (body flicker) and FTG and was held the fastest out of his usage of both. You need to be skilled to make use of FTG, Minato is fast enough to spread his FTG marks all over the battle field really fast even when up against fast or powerful foes such as A and Bee. Shunshin depends on how much chakra you use and the chakra control.

Agreed with everything except the shunshin part.. Minato wasn't the fastest with Shunshin.. Shisui Uchiha was.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Agreed with everything except the shunshin part.. Minato wasn't the fastest with Shunshin.. Shisui Uchiha was.

I said with both usage Minato was the fastest as in he used Shunshin+FTG to be the fastest. Also we have 0 feat of Shisui Shunshin feat, Minato was dead by the time Shisui was the age he was when we see him in Itachi's flashbacks and A was stated he was the fastest after Minato's death and he uses only Shunshin. Minato's Shunshin is fast enough to allow him to react to A's fastest punch at point blank range; Minato reached down for his Kunai and tossed it up before he FTG away so Minato's own Shunshin is going to be between lightning armor level 1 and 2.

Madara said Tobirama was the fastest of his time and Tobirama said Minato 's Shunshin was faster than his. It should also be noted that Minato was said to fight A and B more than that one occasion, and it was before he was Hokage so time did pass by so Minato probably gotten stronger. Plus in SM Minato would no doubt be faster than A and Shisui.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Agreed with everything except the shunshin part.. Minato wasn't the fastest with Shunshin.. Shisui Uchiha was.

Shisui is featless. People were comparing kcm Narutos shunshin to Minatos. Unless you think Shisui is as good as kcm Naruto.

 

[solorflare99]

Agreed with everything except the shunshin part.. Minato wasn't the fastest with Shunshin.. Shisui Uchiha was.

A(4th) is faster than both of those guy's using shunshin. So is Naruto is RSM.


Minato is certainly fast but he is known for his speed due to FTG, and Shisui is featless, but if we go off of the anime he still isn't faster. In the anime he was special because of how many times he could use shushin in a row.

A is the fastest
Minato is close
Shisui is slowest, but based off hype and the anime he mastered shunshin.

RSM Naruto is faster than all three by a large margin.

 

[LuckyMan]

For all the retards saying FTG is not instant:

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[lndra]

FTG. No question asked.

 

[Yata Mirror]

Shisui is featless. People were comparing kcm Narutos shunshin to Minatos. Unless you think Shisui is as good as kcm Naruto.

well we didn't really see much of Shisui so we'll have to go with the hype.. He was named Shisui of the Shunshin for a reason..
but of course with FTG, Minato becomes the 'fastest' since FTG is instant

 

[Yata Mirror]

A(4th) is faster than both of those guy's using shunshin. So is Naruto is RSM.


Minato is certainly fast but he is known for his speed due to FTG, and Shisui is featless, but if we go off of the anime he still isn't faster. In the anime he was special because of how many times he could use shushin in a row.

A is the fastest
Minato is close
Shisui is slowest, but based off hype and the anime he mastered shunshin.

RSM Naruto is faster than all three by a large margin.

like I mentioned to Gold Lightening we didn't see much of Shisui so all we have is the hype and with that he was called Shisui of the Shunshin because he was extremely fast with it and left no trace at all..

but of course FTG is the 'fastest' there is because it's instant

 

[Great Master Minato]

FTG is instant!
I believe even DB stated that Hiraishin > Shunshin.