Which is currently worse at the moment:radical left or radical right?

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's a sword VS venom. A sword can kill immediately and is very noticeable, but venom slowly destroys everything undetected.



I'll have to do some research on the Tea Party.

And that's exactly what they're doing to the education system and academia.

They're turning college kids into people who are so sheltered and intolerant of different opinions that they need adult daycares just to function.

 

[Fresco]

Really, the answers that will be on the thread is leftists saying that the right-wingers are bad, and right-wingers saying the left-wingers are worse. Of course, I feel that the radical left is the worst, because they're the ones that actually are having an actual impact. They feed off of the insecurities of groups, and act as thought police.

I still don't understand why people are saying this. In the context of the US, the radical left has no political power. There is not a single radical leftist in positions of power, either in congress or in state governments. You have to understand that most democrats would be considered moderates in other countries.

@shadow slayer, I literally gave you an example of how the radical rght is influencing education policy at the state level, in your own state no less, and you're bringing up something that has no factual basis.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I still don't understand why people are saying this. In the context of the US, the radical left has no political power. There is not a single radical leftist in positions of power, either in congress or in state governments. You have to understand that most democrats would be considered moderates in other countries.

It's not as bad as other countries, but make no mistake, it's there, and there is influence.

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[Shadow Phantasm]

I still don't understand why people are saying this. In the context of the US, the radical left has no political power. There is not a single radical leftist in positions of power, either in congress or in state governments. You have to understand that most democrats would be considered moderates in other countries.

@shadow slayer, I literally gave you an example of how the radical rght is influencing education policy at the state level, in your own state no less, and you're bringing up something that has no factual basis.

The radical left owns the media as well as most of the college campuses and universities.

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As for factual basis:

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There's your factual basis.

Keep denying the radical left has no power though,because there's more where that came from.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It's a sword VS venom. A sword can kill immediately and is very noticeable, but venom slowly destroys everything undetected.

True. Depends what you value more, the actuality or the principle.

A sword in hateful hands is a hateful sword. Metaphors are fun.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I still don't understand why people are saying this. In the context of the US, the radical left has no political power. There is not a single radical leftist in positions of power, either in congress or in state governments. You have to understand that most democrats would be considered moderates in other countries.

Very true statement.

 

[paratise]

I'll have to do some research on the Tea Party.

...You don't know what is tea party?

No wonder people like you find left wing more threatening.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

...You don't know what is tea party?

No wonder people like you find left wing more threatening.

Have you ever thought that Sennin isn't American and therefore doesn't know what a group that's largely U.S based is about?

Better yet have you even looked at the links I posted that shows the radical left has MAJOR influence in both the media and education?

 

[paratise]

Have you ever thought that Sennin isn't American and therefore doesn't know what a group that's largely U.S based is about?

Better yet have you even looked at the links I posted that shows the radical left has MAJOR influence in both the media and education?

I thought he was American. (And my comment would apply to non-Americans anyway since the thread is about left and right in America)

Edit: i checked thouse links what are you trying to prove with some campus-based examples? The fact that universities have left wing/liberal sides, really that is a get-go. Political and institutional power is way beyond that.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I thought he was American. (And my comment would apply to non-Americans anyway since the thread is about left and right in America)

Edit: i checked thouse links what are you trying to prove with some campus-based examples? The fact that universities have left wing/liberal sides, really that is a get-go. Political and institutional power is way beyond that.

It's not just universities being left wing,anybody that doesn't follow a certain political ideology is ostracized or removed.

I remember the story of a woman who was fired or expelled from her university because she wanted to talk about the racial history behind Huckleberry Fin.

It's pretty bad when teachers and college professors are so terrified of talking about certain topics because the students are so radicalized by political propaganda.

Hell not even feminists who disagree with third wavers are safe when speaking at college classes and require security.

That's where the radical left ideology has the most power,and a boatload of young people to convert from.

Unlike the radical right whose members are middle aged,the radical left has both the influence and positions to bend the next generation to their ideological beliefs.

 

[Fresco]

It's not just universities being left wing,anybody that doesn't follow a certain political ideology is ostracized or removed.

I remember the story of a woman who was fired or expelled from her university because she wanted to talk about the racial history behind Huckleberry Fin.

It's pretty bad when teachers and college professors are so terrified of talking about certain topics because the students are so radicalized by political propaganda.

Hell not even feminists who disagree with third wavers are safe when speaking at college classes and require security.

That's where the radical left ideology has the most power,and a boatload of young people to convert from.

Unlike the radical left whose members are middle aged,the radical left has both the influence and positions to bend the next generation to their ideological beliefs.

You're not understanding us. You're bringing up anecdotal cases that happens at universities, institutions that bring in a lot of young people who are naturally more progressive anyways. That's basically what your whole argument hinges on.

Again, you're not bringing up any examples of the radical left having influence in actual politics or governing. The radical right has influenced the south and my state since the reconstruction era. It's no coincidence that it's impoverished and has low education standards. Conservative thought has had such a big influence on how children are raised here because I grew up in it so I know.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

You're not understanding us. You're bringing up anecdotal cases that happens at universities, institutions that bring in a lot of young people who are naturally more progressive anyways. That's basically what your whole argument hinges on.

Again, you're not bringing up any examples of the radical left having influence in actual politics or governing. The radical right has influenced the south and my state since the reconstruction era. It's no coincidence that it's impoverished and has low education standards. Conservative thought has had such a big influence on how children are raised here because I grew up in it so I know.

Sigh....I hate repeating myself here so I'll make this as simple as possible.

The radical left controlling colleges and universities=more people to spread their agenda+plus sabotaging the next generation=more voters willing to take up their cause.

As for not having any power in actual politics?Dude,politics starts in the freaking college sector.That's where most political movements gain power,and since the radical left has the media on their side they also have a voice in the political sector.Hell,they even have several political figures like Hilary Clinton that are willing to listen to them.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt and I have neither the time nor the patience to instill sense into people who prefer sticking their heads in the sand.

 

[Koah]

Sigh....I hate repeating myself here so I'll make this as simple as possible.

The radical left controlling colleges and universities=more people to spread their agenda+plus sabotaging the next generation=more voters willing to take up their cause.

As for not having any power in actual politics?Dude,politics starts in the freaking college sector.That's where most political movements gain power,and since the radical left has the media on their side they also have a voice in the political sector.Hell,they even have several political figures like Hilary Clinton that are willing to listen to them.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt and I have neither the time nor the patience to instill sense into people who prefer sticking their heads in the sand.

By this I guess you're referring to Title IX? The Rolling Stones fake rape article, Mattress Girl who was publicly endorsed/supported by a Senator, also the Laura Kipnis incident?

Since its passage 43 years ago, Title IX has proved to be a remarkably elastic law. It has been stretched and warped from its original intent to end discrimination on the basis of *** in schools that receive federal funding. As long as Title IX’s victims were wrestlers or swimmers from low-revenue men’s sports that were jettisoned to achieve participation-parity with women’s sports, nobody much cared. But now that the law is being turned into a tool to suppress free speech on college campuses, even liberals are starting to cry foul.

Here was a female professor's story regarding her Title IX inquisition experience.

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[Shadow Phantasm]

By this I guess you're referring to Title IX? The Rolling Stones fake rape article, Mattress Girl who was publicly endorsed/supported by a Senator, also the Laura Kipnis incident?



Here was a female professor's story regarding her Title IX inquisition experience.

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Those came to mind,along with the student that was expelled from a course because he questioned the echo chamber there.

The thing some people don't get is by controlling the education system and dictating what gets taught you effectively have control over the next generation.

The radical left is smarter than their right wing counterparts,because instead of catering to middle aged and old people they convert the younger generation.

Filling their heads with propaganda and making sure they don't ever learn to be functional adults,the radical left is worse because they're setting up society to be worse all around.

 

[slimreaper]

Radical lefties want absolute power in the central goverment. Let me name some countries where the gov't had absolute power. Nazi Germany, Stalin's Soviet Union, Mussolini's Italy, North Korea need I go on? If the left gain power they give it to the government who can always be corrupted. Obama is attempting a power grab now by federalizing the police force in 6 U.S. cities. Kinda remindes you of Stalin's KGB.

 

[Fresco]

Sigh....I hate repeating myself here so I'll make this as simple as possible.

The radical left controlling colleges and universities=more people to spread their agenda+plus sabotaging the next generation=more voters willing to take up their cause.

As for not having any power in actual politics?Dude,politics starts in the freaking college sector.That's where most political movements gain power,and since the radical left has the media on their side they also have a voice in the political sector.Hell,they even have several political figures like Hilary Clinton that are willing to listen to them.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt and I have neither the time nor the patience to instill sense into people who prefer sticking their heads in the sand.

You're the only person in denial. I gave an example of Texas republicans changing curriculum to gloss over slavery, segregation, and Jim Crowe Laws. In many conservative areas, they still don't even teach evolution because of their religious beliefs. You can influence a child more than someone in college, and teaching them such dishonest things can only reinforce the bigoted views they're often instilled with from a young age by being in such areas. Again, I know because I was born in a very conservative part of the country, and I know what people are predisposed to when they're born here. That's very different than simply going to college and having a moderately liberal professor. You can always bring up anecdotal evidence, but my argument will always be backed up by simply looking at the state of the area which I live in is in.

Also the difference here is that the democratic party doesn't have any control over colleges, as opposed to the GOP who uses Fox News and Evangelicalism to monopolize a whole entire demographic of voters like in the south. You're making broad statements acting as if every college out there is a bastion of liberalism, which is obvious horseshit. Also don't conflate social justice with liberalism. Although many proponents of that extreme form of social Justice that you keep complaining about are liberals, not all liberals are social justice warriors.

I also used to be like you where I would laugh at social justice warriors all of the time, and let's be honest, that's the only thing you have been complaining about this whole time. You know as well as I do the Democratic Party doesn't support such extremist groups. I quickly realized that they don't matter because they don't hold any influence in any shit that actually matter. It's easy to think they do if you spend all of your time on the Internet.

@slimreaper Do you even live in the US, or do you only spout things you hear off of stormfront? The Bush and Reagan administrations had major cases of governmental overreach. The Patriot Act, government surveillance, and the War on Drugs were all implemented during republican administrations. Also police forces are often supported by conservatives the most. There's nothing more white conservatives like more than the police killing black teens.

 

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Those came to mind,along with the student that was expelled from a course because he questioned the echo chamber there.

The thing some people don't get is by controlling the education system and dictating what gets taught you effectively have control over the next generation.

The radical left is smarter than their right wing counterparts,because instead of catering to middle aged and old people they convert the younger generation.

Filling their heads with propaganda and making sure they don't ever learn to be functional adults,the radical left is worse because they're setting up society to be worse all around.

You're running in circles.

 

[slimreaper]

You're the only person in denial. I gave an example of Texas republicans changing curriculum to gloss over slavery, segregation, and Jim Crowe Laws. In many conservative areas, they still don't even teach evolution because of their religious beliefs. You can influence a child more than someone in college, and teaching them such dishonest things can only reinforce the bigoted views they're often instilled with from a young age by being in such areas. Again, I know because I was born in a very conservative part of the country, and I know what people are predisposed to when they're born here. That's very different than simply going to college and having a moderately liberal professor. You can always bring up anecdotal evidence, but my argument will always be backed up by simply looking at the state of the area which I live in is in.

Also the difference here is that the democratic party doesn't have any control over colleges, as opposed to the GOP who uses Fox News and Evangelicalism to monopolize a whole entire demographic of voters like in the south. You're making broad statements acting as if every college out there is a bastion of liberalism, which is obvious horseshit. Also don't conflate social justice with liberalism. Although many proponents of that extreme form of social Justice that you keep complaining about are liberals, not all liberals are social justice warriors.

I also used to be like you where I would laugh at social justice warriors all of the time, and let's be honest, that's the only thing you have been complaining about this whole time. You know as well as I do the Democratic Party doesn't support such extremist groups. I quickly realized that they don't matter because they don't hold any influence in any shit that actually matter. It's easy to think they do if you spend all of your time on the Internet.

@slimreaper Do you even live in the US, or do you only spout things you hear off of stormfront? The Bush and Reagan administrations had major cases of governmental overreach. The Patriot Act, government surveillance, and the War on Drugs were all implemented during republican administrations. Also police forces are often supported by conservatives the most. There's nothing more white conservatives like more than the police killing black teens.

I'm from the southen U.S and you're full of shit. All they teach you in history classes now is the evil of the white man. We literally spend months on slavery and jim crow. I hear more about Alexander Graham bell than any white inventors not named the wright brothers. As for colleges being run by liberals why is there such a disdain for republican commencement speakers? Why was a duke professor let go for "racist comments" but a black woman is allowed to say white males are a " problem group"? Liberals are in full control of the vast majority of Universities. As for believing every thing I read, what did I say about obama that's false? Comparing the patriot act to federalizing the police force is laughable. While both are un constitutional, the patriot act at least requires you to have some probable cause to investigate people. What checks are there for the federal police?

 

[paratise]

It's not just universities being left wing,anybody that doesn't follow a certain political ideology is ostracized or removed.

I remember the story of a woman who was fired or expelled from her university because she wanted to talk about the racial history behind Huckleberry Fin.

It's pretty bad when teachers and college professors are so terrified of talking about certain topics because the students are so radicalized by political propaganda.

Hell not even feminists who disagree with third wavers are safe when speaking at college classes and require security.

That's where the radical left ideology has the most power,and a boatload of young people to convert from.

Unlike the radical right whose members are middle aged,the radical left has both the influence and positions to bend the next generation to their ideological beliefs.

Pretty sure that white supremacist shitstain who gunned down 9 black people in a church is 21.

Or those fratboys who sang "there will never ever be a ****** in SAE" few months ago are young and in education phase.

Right and left both existed in past, and continue to exist. And right wing has influence on young generation as well.
I do not like comparasion of such things but death of 9 people -just due to their race- is more worse and painful than all examples you gave combined.

Do tell though, how these people are any less influencial or less harmful than people who force poltical correctness with left wing ideas. I am honestly curious.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Pretty sure that white supremacist shitstain who gunned down 9 black people in a church is 21.

Or those fratboys who sang "there will never ever be a ****** in SAE" few months ago are young and in education phase.

Right and left both existed in past, and continue to exist. And right wing has influence on young generation as well.
I do not like comparasion of such things but death of 9 people -just due to their race- is more worse and painful than all examples you gave combined.

Do tell though, how these people are any less influencial or less harmful than people who force poltical correctness with left wing ideas. I am honestly curious.

Two words:Charlie Hebdo

The radical left all but cheered for the terrorists when the Charlie Hebdo killings happened,when's the last time any radical right winger expressed support for terrorism?

Or what about the radical left willing to turn the other way when a group of muslims were kidnapping and raping children in the UK?The police were afraid of investigating because they knew the radical left would decry them as being racist.

One event involving a possible radical right winger versus many that the radical left were behind or endorsed,we can play this game all day if you want.