Which Hype? God of Shinobi (Hashi) or God of Shinobi (Hiruzen)

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The God of shinboi tag to me states that the ninja in question was the strongest of their generation.
Hashirama has been noted to be strongest of his generation. Hiruzen has been noted to be the strongest of his generation by kabuto who commented on his age age ans still claimed what he did.

Their hype do not contradict each other because it relates to completely different era's.
However if you try and argue from the stand point of hashirama using suigetsu, you are bound to fail
 

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Kages has become soft nowadays. smh.

Exaar , is now the man to debate with about Hiruzen



But Kishimoto knew about Hashirama.

kishimoto knew the idea of Hashirama*. in part one he may have not even so much have even thought of a deeper background story for him. we dont even know none of their names until part 2. we cant say what kishimoto knew or didnt know but all we can judge from is the readers point of view.
 
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Hashirama's hype is more legit because he has more feats. Sure hiruzen has defeated orachimaru and learned many jutsu but hashirama taught hiruzen and he also has stronger jutsu. Therefore, because of the validity of hashirama's strength, his hype for being god of shinobi is more favorable.
 

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The God of shinboi tag to me states that the ninja in question was the strongest of their generation.
Hashirama has been noted to be strongest of his generation. Hiruzen has been noted to be the strongest of his generation by kabuto who commented on his age age ans still claimed what he did.

Their hype do not contradict each other because it relates to completely different era's.
However if you try and argue from the stand point of hashirama using suigetsu, you are bound to fail

would you consider itachi to be the "God of Shinobi" for his generation?? I do
 

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Hashirama ofc
Hiruzen is more knowledgeable and he is a professor. But hashi is stronger
 

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Hiruzen can beat Hashirama any day with one hand tied behind his back.
 

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'Cause Part 1 ninja aren't as powerful as Part 2 Ninja.
Part 1: Hashirama showed a lil'wood.
Part 2: He could create forests.

Compare and Contrast. >_<

Part 1: restricted cause Orochimaru wanted to contain the 3rd Hokage, and also he toyed with Hiruzen.. so he couldn't do his OP jutsus

Part 2: through Madara cause the stakes were higher now

But the characters are still the same Kakashi still got solo'd easily in Pat 1 :
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would you consider itachi to be the "God of Shinobi" for his generation?? I do

Not even close ;l. He specializes on the eyes too much. And he couldn't last in a long battle due to his MS strains.
 

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The God of Shinobi sobriquet either means that the given ninja was above all others in terms of power in that time frame.. Or that they were simply complete masters of all forms of shinobi combat.. aka ninjutsu , genjutsu and taijutsu..

If we look at the list of ninja... So6p with his rinnegan and hype should have been a supposed master of these aspects....
Hashirama being not only a member but leader of the clan of a thousand skills also should also have databook 5's in nin gen tai

and Hiruzen speaks for himself..

What exactly the title means has yet to be explained


A Dictionary definition of God


a man of such superior qualities that he seems like a deity to other people; "he was a god among
 

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Hashi by feat of beating Madara and all the hype he seems to get from people, not to mention his DNA is the only way most people are getting powerups recently. xd
 

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I lol at how the thread starter conveniently forgot the hype that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage of all.
 

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The God of Shinobi sobriquet either means that the given ninja was above all others in terms of power in that time frame.. Or that they were simply complete masters of all forms of shinobi combat.. aka ninjutsu , genjutsu and taijutsu..

If we look at the list of ninja... So6p with his rinnegan and hype should have been a supposed master of these aspects....
Hashirama being not only a member but leader of the clan of a thousand skills also should also have databook 5's in nin gen tai

and Hiruzen speaks for himself..

What exactly the title means has yet to be explained


A Dictionary definition of God

Which character's hype as the "God of Shinobi" is fitting. O-o.
I lol at how the thread starter conveniently forgot the hype that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage of all.

Not according to suigetsu.. O-o. According to Hiruzen himself, hes the strongest. but according to others.. hes not.
 

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would you consider itachi to be the "God of Shinobi" for his generation?? I do

And that brings up a tricky question.. If the title is giving to the ninja/ninjas that are above all in a generation, then there should be much more God's of shinobi around... but the giving of the title seems to be sparse.. which leads me to believe it's for ninjas who not only possessed superior qualities.. but also were masters of everything in means to be a shinobi



Which character's hype as the "God of Shinobi" is fitting. O-o.
The question cannot be answered since we don't know what the title was given for in the first place
 

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Part 1: restricted cause Orochimaru wanted to contain the 3rd Hokage, and also he toyed with Hiruzen.. so he couldn't do his OP jutsus

Part 2: through Madara cause the stakes were higher now

But the characters are still the same Kakashi still got solo'd easily in Pat 1 :
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Not even close ;l. He specializes on the eyes too much. And he couldn't last in a long battle due to his MS strains.

It isnt just his ability, it's his overall presence and knowledge. He clearly isn't the strongest, but his is very intelligent in his field (Uchiha) and influencing others. Those who have been given the title were obviously strong, the strongest of their time but that alone (i doubt) would have given the title "God of Shinobi" as we've seen, it's so much more than that.

For me, isn't his ability and intellect combined that would give him that title for HIS generation. This isn't saying he is the strongest or most intelligent. His stature is just so high in the series, that even Kish makes it apparent that he cant be ignored in major situation (the bastard)

directed @ Owaji too
 
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Well, you're basically either picking a retcon'd Part 1 character, or a much more recent, relevant character. Only an idiot would still say Hiruzen, tbh.
 
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