Which characters are faster than 4th Raikage

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V2 Raiton Chakra Mode is restricted.

What does that mean? Only consider Ay in his basic Raiton Chakra Mode.

If you don't know or are unsure of what this is, let me know and I'll provide images, gifs, memes, slideshows or whatever you need to understand the difference. Got it? Good.

Whats the point of this thread? To put Ay's speed against other characters. You guys tell me which ones are faster than V1 Raiton Chakra Mode. We are only discussing movement speed. What is that? Moving from point A to point B. This is including foot speed and shunshin.

Consider everyone War Arc form. Do I need to state Ridoku chakra is restricted? Alright.

Sasuke
Itachi
Kakashi
V2 Bee
6G Gai
Kisame
SM Naruto
Tobirama
Obito
 

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Sasuke
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Kakashi
V2 Bee
6G Gai
Kisame
SM Naruto
Tobirama
Obito



@Only the bolded and underlined is faster than base raiton armor Ay in shunshin. Obito is faster if we count his S/T jutsu. And of course Minato is faster.
 

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The only one on here who is 100% faster than him is V2 B considering V2 B can blitz Kisame with zero reaction while V1 Ay can't blitz Jugo with zero reaction. The others would be close are EMS Sasuke and moreso Tobirama. But I don't really think that Sasuke is faster than V1 Ay, and there's no way to argue Tobirama's superiority anymore.

So yeah. Just V2 B.
 

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The only one on here who is 100% faster than him is V2 B considering V2 B can blitz Kisame with zero reaction while V1 Ay can't blitz Jugo with zero reaction. The others would be close are EMS Sasuke and moreso Tobirama. But I don't really think that Sasuke is faster than V1 Ay, and there's no way to argue Tobirama's superiority anymore.

So yeah. Just V2 B.
Jugo was overflowing with senjutsu. Its no wonder he could react.
 

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The only one on here who is 100% faster than him is V2 B considering V2 B can blitz Kisame with zero reaction while V1 Ay can't blitz Jugo with zero reaction. The others would be close are EMS Sasuke and moreso Tobirama. But I don't really think that Sasuke is faster than V1 Ay, and there's no way to argue Tobirama's superiority anymore.

So yeah. Just V2 B.
CM2 increases reflexes. Sasuke stated in in part 1 and then we see Kabuto reacting to susano arrow thanks to the power he got from juugo. Orochimaru states CM is like senjutsu.

Juugo's reflexes are no joke.
 

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CM2 increases reflexes. Sasuke stated in in part 1 and then we see Kabuto reacting to susano arrow thanks to the power he got from juugo. Orochimaru states CM is like senjutsu.

Juugo's reflexes are no joke.
Jugo was overflowing with senjutsu. Its no wonder he could react.
Jugo having Senjutsu doesn't automatically mean that his reflexes become top tier. Blitzing Kisame with no reaction whatsoever is a better feat than getting blocked by Jugo unless you guys are going to try and argue that the gap between Kisame and Jugo's speed and reactions are that large. Thus V2 B should easily be faster than Ay in his v1 state.
 

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Jugo having Senjutsu doesn't automatically mean that his reflexes become top tier. Blitzing Kisame with no reaction whatsoever is a better feat than getting blocked by Jugo unless you guys are going to try and argue that the gap between Kisame and Jugo's speed and reactions are that large. Thus V2 B should easily be faster than Ay in his v1 state.
Every time you quote me i don't get the notification. Never.

I never said his reflexes are top tier. I say his reflexes are no joke, given the fact that he reacted do v1 Ay (barely, but something worth).

And obviously V2 Bee is faster than V1 Ay. Just the argument of Jugo is not 100% legit since Juugo's reflexes are good.
The first time Ay and Juugo clashed, Juugo reacted. But the second time, Ay used even more speed (still not v2) and Juugo couldn't even see it.
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Every time you quote me i don't get the notification. Never.

I never said his reflexes are top tier. I say his reflexes are no joke, given the fact that he reacted do v1 Ay (barely, but something worth).

And obviously V2 Bee is faster than V1 Ay. Just the argument of Jugo is not 100% legit since Juugo's reflexes are good.
The first time Ay and Juugo clashed, Juugo reacted. But the second time, Ay used even more speed (still not v2) and Juugo couldn't even see it.
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But I never said Jugo's reflexes aren't good. I simply said that they either aren't better than Kisame's or they aren't so much greater that it'd change my original point. So I'm not sure what you guys are trying to argue. Though Jugo failed the second time because:

1. He thought he killed Ay in his blast.
2. His blast combined with the fact that Ay escaped at the last minute made it impossible for Jugo to see him move.
3. He got hit because of #1 and because of Ay coming from out of Jugo's Line of Sight.
 

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Jugo having Senjutsu doesn't automatically mean that his reflexes become top tier. Blitzing Kisame with no reaction whatsoever is a better feat than getting blocked by Jugo unless you guys are going to try and argue that the gap between Kisame and Jugo's speed and reactions are that large. Thus V2 B should easily be faster than Ay in his v1 state.
Not to mention V1 Bee and V1 Ay can physically match each other's speed to perform Double Lariat.
 

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Not to mention V1 Bee and V1 Ay can physically match each other's speed to perform Double Lariat.
Doesn't really mean much since it's a duo technique. Otherwise this would mean little kids can physically match Ay in speed which is obviously not true .

OP: Tobirama and maybe Obito's teleportation speed depending on the distance. 6G Gai is slightly below but around that level.
 

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Doesn't really mean much since it's a duo technique. Otherwise this would mean little kids can physically match Ay in speed which is obviously not true .

OP: Tobirama and maybe Obito's teleportation speed depending on the distance. 6G Gai is slightly below but around that level.
I was going to mention that first part too. Lariat is a duo technique. Both users match their speed, physical power, and timing to decapitate someone but that doesn't necessarily mean they're equals in V1, they're just matching each other so that the move works, because like you said, otherwise that'd mean 5 year old Bee is as fast and strong as 15 year old Ay.

I'm talking about Obitos basic footspeed and shunshin, not Kamui.
 

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V2 bee, and Tobirama are definitely faster than V1 Ay, unsure about 6g guy
Living madara nearly blitzed SM naruto who not only reacted but also evaded his nukite strike only to then use a rasengan to get the nukite on the raikage himself

Yet based on madaras statement he himself admitted inferiority to Tobiramas speed
So no reason to believe that Tobirama is slower than V1 Ay, lacking evidence doesn't matter when we have a flat out statement from someone faster
 

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Lol so you think V1 Ay is faster than Itachi, but you think Itachi is faster than V2 Killer Bee? When manga makes it clear V2 Bee >>> V1 Ay in speed?
When did i ever say Itachi was faster than Killer bee? SMHH let me guess your going to take another one of my quotes and reword it to make it seem like i said that? SMHHHHHH. Im glad your still in High school because your reading comp is poor.
 
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