[Discussion] Which are the greatest condradictions about religion/God?

[Our Lord Sasuke]

for me is the one that says we have a free will but we have to pray if we want to change something in our lives but that doesn't make God angry? why should we pray to change something if it has already planned everything

 

[Chikombo]

That you need God to have a moral compass, even though having God means hating on homosexuals and covering up women.

 

[Mori Jin]

Depends what religion you're talking about.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

God being omniscient doesn't mean we don't have free will. And the free will is meant to test us.

 

[Greatness23]

That you need God to have a moral compass, even though having God means hating on homosexuals and covering up women.

Not necessarily, it's just those people never make their own minds up. Everything they're saying or doing is the product of their parents etc.

 

[Dannie]

Last I remember, there are many contradictions in the bible like whenever people say that God is 'all loving' but Proverbs 8:17 goes to state;
"I love those who love me, and those who seek me find me."

So technically God only chooses to love those who only follow and believe in his views, and I am not sure what the bible says on homosexuality since I am not even well versed in it, but if what people have said is true, then he does not truly love everyone, only those who share the same ideals as him, which is selfish and not at all 'all loving'. If God loves everybody unconditionally, then you can do whatever you want and believe whatever you think, but in this case god is not all loving nor does he love everyone unconditionally.

"Be in my church and praise me, or if you don't, burn in eternal fire forever!"

Also, those who are not in the right church or Church of Christ, knowing that we have all these different denominations then they will simply go to hell because they are not in the right church or church at all, so how is god merciful to everyone?
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Tis why I am agnostic/atheist and don't believe in this nonsense anymore.

 

[King Richard]

I am my own god

 

[Belserion]

I am my own god

Satanism much?

 

[Chikombo]

Not necessarily, it's just those people never make their own minds up. Everything they're saying or doing is the product of their parents etc.

I guess.
But it's easy to use religion as an excuse for those things. But of course people can think for themselves and are not bound to that. I guess you could say if God is so powerful could he create something more powerful than himself?
I think that if religion is about good then it should be reasonable to be good and not be bound to bad things just cus you think your religion commands it.
So in that sense religion can be very positive at least imo.

 

[King Richard]

Satanism much?

Judaism actually.

 

[Belserion]

Judaism actually.

Oh hey! I'm German
Wanna meet?

 

[King Richard]

Oh hey! I'm German
Wanna meet?

hmm no thanks

 

[Belserion]

hmm no thanks

Good. Know your place.

 

[King Richard]

Good. Know your place.

Your mom is at my place tho

 

[ArabianLuffy]

That you need God to have a moral compass, even though having God means hating on homosexuals and covering up women.

Imagine you saw a hot chick with good size boobs...

Spoiler

masturbating on his penis.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Why is this even an argument.

WHY.

 

[Chikombo]

Imagine you saw a hot chick with good size boobs...

Spoiler

masturbating on his penis.

I don't understand. I mean if you want to justify the bible then sure do that I guess.

 

[HashiraMadara]

God being omniscient doesn't mean we don't have free will. And the free will is meant to test us.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-15

1 Everything that happens in this world happens at the time God chooses. 2 He sets the time for birth and the time for death, the time for planting and the time for pulling up, 3 the time for killing and the time for healing, the time for tearing down and the time for building. 4 He sets the time for sorrow and the time for joy, the time for mourning and the time for dancing, 5 the time for making love and the time for not making love, the time for kissing and the time for not kissing. 6 He sets the time for finding and the time for losing, the time for saving and the time for throwing away, 7 the time for tearing and the time for mending, the time for silence and the time for talk. 8 He sets the time for love and the time for hate, the time for war and the time for peace. 9 What do we gain from all our work? 10 I know the heavy burdens that God has laid on us. 11 He has set the right time for everything. He has given us a desire to know the future, but never gives us the satisfaction of fully understanding what he does. 12 So I realized that all we can do is be happy and do the best we can while we are still alive. 13 All of us should eat and drink and enjoy what we have worked for. It is God's gift. 14 I know that everything God does will last forever. You can't add anything to it or take anything away from it. And one thing God does is to make us stand in awe of him. 15 Whatever happens or can happen has already happened before. God makes the same thing happen again and again.

 

[Chikombo]

Ecclesiastes 3:1-15

1 Everything that happens in this world happens at the time God chooses. 2 He sets the time for birth and the time for death, the time for planting and the time for pulling up, 3 the time for killing and the time for healing, the time for tearing down and the time for building. 4 He sets the time for sorrow and the time for joy, the time for mourning and the time for dancing, 5 the time for making love and the time for not making love, the time for kissing and the time for not kissing. 6 He sets the time for finding and the time for losing, the time for saving and the time for throwing away, 7 the time for tearing and the time for mending, the time for silence and the time for talk. 8 He sets the time for love and the time for hate, the time for war and the time for peace. 9 What do we gain from all our work? 10 I know the heavy burdens that God has laid on us. 11 He has set the right time for everything. He has given us a desire to know the future, but never gives us the satisfaction of fully understanding what he does. 12 So I realized that all we can do is be happy and do the best we can while we are still alive. 13 All of us should eat and drink and enjoy what we have worked for. It is God's gift. 14 I know that everything God does will last forever. You can't add anything to it or take anything away from it. And one thing God does is to make us stand in awe of him. 15 Whatever happens or can happen has already happened before. God makes the same thing happen again and again.

That's sad, but maybe people can omit that part of the bible if they are christian, I like to think we have free will and if I was religious I would still think that I think.
Also I think it says after Noahs ark that God gave men free will and wouldn't interfere or something like that, so maybe that's an excuse for how bad things can happen despite there being a God, cus God doesn't control everything maybe the devil does or we do or accidents happen.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I don't understand. I mean if you want to justify the bible then sure do that I guess.

It's not just the Bible. Also the Quran. Actually, both Christianity and Islam (and if we added Judaism too I believe) they condemn homosexuality for moral reasons without mentioning natural reasons. Now this is just a simple example of the reality we live in.