Whether you believe or not

[From the Dark Spire]

It definately is old testament and if you read the bible correctly Jesus is no different. I have already accepted that God is my master and that his way is the truth because he has given me a way to live my life. Human nature is at its most free when its following gods judgement. However let me clue you in on a little secret that everyone just seems to not know. . . . . Theres no such thing as hell

Nah, I believed you all the way til this point above. Lucifer was punished, because he loved god too much, and held a spiteful will towards us.. He told lucifer to love us equally as him, but Lucifer would not have it, and so, he was casted down from heaven by Micheal and sent down to the rotting pits of hell.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Too each his own. Again, I have my doubts, but also have my beliefs. Another thing is I have no idea why Atheists and Religious people argue. It is not like they will convert each other. Can't we all just get along? :|

There is no such thing as humanity getting along. People are defination of stupidity, minus the select few like I said before, like myself, and a only a few others who seem to have their senses straight.

Everyone will NEVER get along.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Human nature is at its most free when its following gods judgement.

Hmm....How can this be? Actually, let's define what "most free" is. Christianity imposes laws on followers, yes. Just like other religions do, this is normal.

Then we have the absence of religion, Atheism. This contains the absence of religious laws and are only bound by Constitutional law.

Then one step further, we have Satanism. I could be mistaken on the crucial points of Satanism, but if what I know is correct, this purports the absence of all binding laws, aka Anarchy. Satanism tells the follower to embrace what you yourself wants only.

So wouldn't it be more accurate to assume that Satanism is where the human nature is "most free"? Or are we using different definitions of "free"?

People are defination of stupidity, minus the select few like I said before, like myself, and a only a few others who seem to have their senses straight.

Yes, yes, we understand, you're not stupid like the rest of us.

 

[Penguin]

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People can get along if they tried and came into the situation with an open mind, respecting other people's decisions.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

I wish that was the case. Throughout this thread, I never insulted religion once. But I can't stand by while people say "this happens" and forces that belief on others when it's unsubstantiated. Then we've seen what happens when higher-learning facilities get trampled upon by religious officials, but I won't get into that, because it's always a sad ending



What happens when a masochist enters hell? I'm very curious.

The same, probably even worse... He will be laughed at by satan, trying to rationalize his explanation for his venture into hell, and then Satan will dumb him with the rest of the petrified souls tortured in hell. What do YOU think a simple Masochist can do to SATAN himself?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

The same, probably even worse... He will be laughed at by satan, trying to rationalize his explanation for his venture into hell, and then Satan will dumb him with the rest of the petrified souls tortured in hell. What do YOU think a simple Masochist can do to SATAN himself?

The definition of Masochism is "a fetish for receiving pain". If that is what Hell does (torture), wouldn't the Masochist enjoy his eternal stay in Hell? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of Hell?

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Aaaand this is where you and I disagree. Theres no such thing as hell nor an everlasting torment. Show me the verses in the bible. . . So that I can explain them to you

I've already responded to your theory as well, and I said before, that hell does exist. If you believe in god, then you have to believe in the devil. I'm not going to go far into details, I've ALREADY done that for 5 pages already, I'm just going to ignore the fact you exist and you said something SOO redundant.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Nah, I believed you all the way til this point above. Lucifer was punished, because he loved god too much, and held a spiteful will towards us.. He told lucifer to love us equally as him, but Lucifer would not have it, and so, he was casted down from heaven by Micheal and sent down to the rotting pits of hell.

If that was true dont you think the bible wouldve started in tht story but NO it started with their being only God.

What your talking about lies with John Miltons Paradise Lost and Dantes Inferno. Works of fiction and mythology just like Homer

 

[From the Dark Spire]

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People can get along if they tried and came into the situation with an open mind, respecting other people's decisions.

That's a fairy tale to think that.

 

[Tingun]

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People can get along if they tried and came into the situation with an open mind, respecting other people's decisions.

Ok, lets take the cookie in the bottom middle panel. Let's say it's undercooked by kid 1, and the kid 2 dies from food poisoning while the other didn't get sick. Now we have one boy who has killed some guys brother (by accident).
Now kid 2's brother gets pissed and kills that kid 1. Kid 1's cousin gets mad and throws a bomb at kid 2's house, kills everyone including kid 3. etc. etc. etc.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

The definition of Masochism is "a fetish for receiving pain". If that is what Hell does (torture), wouldn't the Masochist enjoy his eternal stay in Hell? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of Hell?

Even a fetishist has limits, sir.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Even a fetishist has limits, sir.

Who am I to question you?

 

[From the Dark Spire]

If that was true dont you think the bible wouldve started in tht story but NO it started with their being only God.

What your talking about lies with John Miltons Paradise Lost and Dantes Inferno. Works of fiction and mythology just like Homer

Not works of fiction, but the words of truth.

 

[Penguin]

Ok, lets take the cookie in the bottom middle panel. Let's say it's undercooked by kid 1, and the kid 2 dies from food poisoning while the other didn't get sick. Now we have one boy who has killed some guys brother (by accident).
Now kid 2's brother gets pissed and kills that kid 1. Kid 1's cousin gets mad and throws a bomb at kid 2's house, kills everyone including kid 3. etc. etc. etc.

It won't get undercooked, because Paula Deane cookie dough batter is safe to eat. Way to think negative. :|

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Who am I to question you?

I don't know, who am I to answer to you? I've already explained the logical reasonings for the questions of life. It's just what we believe. You should know this by now.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Not works of fiction, but the words of truth.

Now that is blasphemy!How can you say such a thing? You have strayed badly from Gods path. ONLY the Bible is truth and NOTHING else

 

[Avani]

What happens when a masochist enters hell? I'm very curious.

It's pretty simple.

Masochist: Hurt me, please.

Satan: Nope. You will have to watch everyone getting it but you. That's your punishment.



Either way we are not going to get any evidence till we are alive and once dead we are not likely to return to let others know.

 

[Penguin]

Who let's kids cook without parental supervision. Wow we are off-topic.

Good night everyone. It was a fun topic to debate and what not.

It's pretty simple.

Masochist: Hurt me, please.

Satan: Nope. You will have to watch everyone getting it but you. That's your punishment.

Touché Ira, touché!

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Now that is blasphemy!How can you say such a thing? You have strayed badly from Gods path. ONLY the Bible is truth and NOTHING else

I couldn't agree more, and you know who WROTE the bible? Man.

Humanity wrote the bible, Now, why would humanity write about not only God, but about the Devil as well?

Did you know God created angels?

 

[Jonesy161]

I don't have any views on religion. Problem with all you sadistic, egotistical *******s is that you all judge people. You all have to view them in certain ways.

Do they have a religion that differs from me? Why do I care?
Are they mentally challenged? So what, I see them as human.
Different skin color? Woop-de-****ing-doo.

It's not the religion that pisses me off, it's anyone who has to judge. I even hate atheists who criticize religious people or belittle their belief.