When you compare Naruto to Sasuke, Kurama SHOULD be excluded.

[KAGE RYUU]

dont forget to exclude sasukes shoes when you compare them also as they were not part of his blood line he got them later on xd

 

[Helikido]

lol what madara used hashis dna to power up because he was to weak do you even read the manga

I am positive that madara was fully capable of PS before he got hashiramas DNA because he said it himself that perfect susanoo is only stopable by hashirma himself lol. Also he has chakra comparable to hashirama himself.

 

[Helikido]

yea i agree threads like this should be closed they are lame and biased

Just like your flawed logic? Quit being a fan boy bro and think about it.

 

[shogun973]

Then Kakashi's sharingan should be excluded too when hes compared to someone. And Sasuke got his MS/EMS from Itachi he didnt train for that while Naruto trained to learn SM and control Kyuubi.
So sorry but youre a hater or ......you know

thats how u awaken EMS and this thread based on my comment in the other thread

 

[zombiejesus]

im done i dont care i made my point you made your i am not mad at you bro lol you have your opinions i have mine its all good rep to you later

ok forget the rep lolyour an asshat you are the one with the uchiha sig and avatar lol i could care less but you seem ....dumb haha

 

[Helikido]

yea i agree threads like this should be closed they are lame and biased

thats how u awaken EMS and this thread based on my comment in the other thread

Yup I did base it off that lol.

 

[Naruto9001]

The kyubi is his power and your talking about Naruto being given power ups Sasuke's the king of getting stuff handed to him.

 

[Helikido]

im done i dont care i made my point you made your i am not mad at you bro lol you have your opinions i have mine its all good rep to you later

Whatever you find is best I'm not forcing you to change your mind.

 

[Helikido]

The kyubi is his power and your talking about Naruto being given power ups Sasuke's the king of getting stuff handed to him.

Look at how easy naruto got handed bijuu mode which instantly put him in tobis rank lol. meanwhile sasuke had to kill his bro only to later find out that he actually did everything for his own good loved him huh? All that while getting a small power up of no fatigue during MS.

 

[Scooby Doo]

thats how u awaken EMS and this thread based on my comment in the other thread

What? What other thread? Link please? But true to awaken MS someone important has to die in front of your eyes or something like that.But still, its not training ...And i'm afraid of you ..by your picture

 

[Iruka]

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Except for the drugs he was given by Orochimaru to improve his body, then there's also the curse seal. These things are gone now but Sasuke has exploited other sources of chakra before.

 

[Narutohokage7]

Is it hard to breath? I mean I think it must be with your nose so far up Sasukes arse

 

[Exaar]

Uzamaki Clan: All are born with big chakra reserves, and with a strong life force and bodies. None are born with Bijuus.

Uchiha Clan: All are born with the ability to awaken the sharingan and use it, and are also born with a more prestigious chakra of higher quality, which is why they are able to use the sharing an without any chakra drain. None are born with Bijuus.

Result?: At this point, they naruto and sasuke are both equal. They are both gifted with special genes from their clan. Their gifts are perfectly balanced.

BUT: Even after all that, naruta also has Kurama, an addition that outweighs throws that balance off..

Conclusion?: It is unfair to compare naruto with sasuke using kurama as that is not his own power.

Why?: Look back at manga, naruto always relies on an external source of chakra other than his weather it be sage mode or kurama.

Now look back at sasuke, he ONLY relies on his OWN chakra for ALL of his techniques except kirin. Never relies on an outer source of chakra.

Why waste your time and create such a thread?: That is because a thread similar like this one was created stating that it is fair to compare naruto with kurama to sasuke. Allot of people agreed and that only shows the failed logic some people have on NB. I'm just trying to point people in the right direction of thought. Or at least a logical one.

Your an idiot op!: Am I? You see, if they are given the same amount of gifts ( the body to naruto and the eyes to sasuke), wouldn't adding a bijuu throw off the balance?

@Bold.

Oh thats funny,

i remember Sasuke using Oro's Powers/Chakra and his curseseal in his fight with Deidara and Itachi

Look at how easy naruto got handed bijuu mode which instantly put him in tobis rank lol. meanwhile sasuke had to kill his bro only to later find out that he actually did everything for his own good loved him huh? All that while getting a small power up of no fatigue during MS.

Look what sasuke had to do to get EMS, He had to do nothing, He just decided to take a deadmans eyes and Gained EMS, and Lay back on his ass while Tobi Gave him itachi's eyes, Oh he really worked for it huh?.

Biased Much?.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Read

I said this on the other thread same applies here:

what you need to realise is that the bijuu's are a gift from the sage of six paths to the shinobi world. They are "Chakra monsters" as tobi would say so kurama in naruto is a gift and is an external source of power, where as with the uchiha their powers are internal they just have to do certain conditions to unlock it. Naruto's strength without kurama would just be a perfect sage mode even stronger then the one he used against nagato, as ma and pa would be able to merge with him.

The fourth hokage gave naruto this external strength as he knew would day he would be able to control it. So just as his dad wanted naruto is strong because of kurama, his dad left him this power.

The reason I say im on your side is because I don't care that kurama was giving to naruto that is how the story goes! so everyone complaining about this should stop watching if they care so much. The fourth hokage died to give naruto this strength, he went through so much pain because kurama was inside him so to me he deserves it.

 

[Naruto9001]

Look at how easy naruto got handed bijuu mode which instantly put him in tobis rank lol. meanwhile sasuke had to kill his bro only to later find out that he actually did everything for his own good loved him huh? All that while getting a small power up of no fatigue during MS.

Naruto works for mostly all of his power ups he worked really hard for SM and for KM he had to defeat kyubi besides Naruto's had it ever since he was born it's basically a part of him. Sasuke on the other hand got a CM from Oro with no trainning then he gets some more power ups handed to him by Oro during TS MS was handed to him along with EMS, EMS isn't a small power up either.

 

[Helikido]

Except for the drugs he was given by Orochimaru to improve his body, then there's also the curse seal. These things are gone now but Sasuke has exploited other sources of chakra before.

I'm talking about current sasuke.

Read

I said this on the other thread same applies here:

what you need to realise is that the bijuu's are a gift from the sage of six paths to the shinobi world. They are "Chakra monsters" as tobi would say so kurama in naruto is a gift and is an external source of power, where as with the uchiha their powers are internal they just have to do certain conditions to unlock it. Naruto's strength without kurama would just be a perfect sage mode even stronger then the one he used against nagato, as ma and pa would be able to merge with him.

The fourth hokage gave naruto this external strength as he knew would day he would be able to control it. So just as his dad wanted naruto is strong because of kurama, his dad left him this power.

The reason I say im on your side is because I don't care that kurama was giving to naruto that is how the story goes! so everyone complaining about this should stop watching if they care so much. The fourth hokage died to give naruto this strength, he went through so much pain because kurama was inside him so to me he deserves it.

I'm not complaining but I did state the reason why this thread was created and it is because peoples logic seem to fail a bit on this base. I'm not a fan of naruto or sasuke at all. those two cannot do anything alone themselves.

 

[Helikido]

Naruto works for mostly all of his power ups he worked really hard for SM and for KM he had to defeat kyubi besides Naruto's had it ever since he was born it's basically a part of him. Sasuke on the other hand got a CM from Oro with no trainning then he gets some more power ups handed to him by Oro during TS MS was handed to him along with EMS, EMS isn't a small power up either.

Well this proves my point that naruto and sasuke are the two most useless open character in this manga who can't do anything themselves without relying on anyone.

 

[Naruto the wind]

Amaterasu was given to sasuke by itachi and he gained ems by taking itachis eyes u have exclude those too

 

[Exaar]

I'm talking about current sasuke.

Then your still wrong.

Sasuke needed Itachi's Power to become stronger.

he didn't "earn" ems he just took it, Just like naruto took the kyuubi's chakra/power.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I'm not complaining but I did state the reason why this thread was created and it is because peoples logic seem to fail a bit on this base. I'm not a fan of naruto or sasuke at all. those two cannot do anything alone themselves.

Oh when I said people should stop complaining I wasn't talking about you I copied and pasted that from another thread.