RDS and Totsuka blade seal within the moment there is nothing to be done when it happens. I dont see how she overcomes them.
Regeneration is when the body is wounded, her body will be taken in and her soul sealed, regeneration will not help that.
When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
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Regeneration is when the body is wounded, her body will be taken in and her soul sealed, regeneration will not help that.
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Left , Sasuke attacking with indras arrow. Right , Naruto attacking with tailed beast rasenshurican barrage. Front , Kakashi attacking with Kamui Raiki. Back , Guy attacking with hirudora. Top ,Madara's meteorites. Still alive??
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Well I just its a plot hole, because regeneration should counter it if simple medical ninjutsu can reverse the effects.
With rds, orochimaru was able to use brutes to rip hisself away from it, tsunade can do the same,
And the regeneration counter to be heading is supported by manga facts. Beheaded won't kill her so long as she has chakra
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Its no wonder u think lee cant kill her with a 6 gated kunai decapitation Lol
Saying totsu cant seal or end her via slicing her in half shows that u cant have a trusted opinion when its comes to sakura/tsunade limitation. Lol
I dont know what Tsunade was going to do to Orochimaru but its different from what Byakugo does.
In recovering from wounds Byakugo > Mystical palm but that is about it. What Tsunade was going to do probably was not mystical palm's healing.
It would be different from something like Chiyo's technique where she brought someone back to life. That was most likely what Tsunade was going to do for Orochimaru, bring his arms back to life.
Also the anime shows both techniques as blue aura I think so they were probably similar.
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The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
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Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
Re: When tsunade says can't die in battle she means it
The problem was that this jutsu has not been fully explored. And people are hypocritical and selective in what powers and strengths certain characters have.
For instance, if Toskuta blade really does GG no re everyone and that yama thing shield defends against everything, why isn't half the akatuski dead? or why wasn't Naruto a skewered 9 tails when Orochimaru tried stabbing him with his all piercing throat sword?
Tsunade's skill is hyped up, we don't know if she really could survive a decapitation. Though if people are content to assume the above weapon descriptions are true no matter what, then yes, Tsunade's skill would allow her to survive basically anything, since every cell destroyed is instantly healed.
However, that' isn't the case, Tsunade's regeneration would allow her to tank hits, but it's not instant if manga scans prove anything. I'd say it's a couple seconds behind. Enough to prevent normally fatal wounds (like getting burned alive or getting stabbed in the gut) But a pure decapitation? like one hit sort of thing? Not sure if she could survive that.
Of course, that's assuming anyone would be even capable of getting close enough to go for such a blow. It's one thing to say she dies from decapitation, technically everyone does. But entirely different thing to pull it off (other wise why didn't Madara decapitate her from the start? or anyone else for that matter? in fact, why doesn't everyone try decapitating everyone else in Naruto, if it's so easy to do?) Point being, everyone dies if their head comes off. But the probability of anyone actually taking the time to cut off some one's head in battle is so high risk it's not worth it unless they have a specific ability to do so (Zabuzu for instance, he's sword literally lives for decapitations, and that's generally AFTER he's beaten them down, an execution move).
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KingHashirama
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Yup in that state he was immortal. o-o. Zetsu took him over.. that doesn't negate the fact Madara himself was immortal.
Transcendence
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So, Jinton obliterates her and she completely heals herself without her brain? What if her brain is taken out? Logically, and even scientifically, even if she heals back, she won't be Tsunade anymore. It would be a new damn brain, empty of any collected information. I mean ... come on!
There's a good amount of Kage level ninjas who can kill her, oh and Madara was playing with the 5 Kages, he called fighting them child's play and this is Edo Madara who is weaker than Alive Madara. Tsunade already said she cant heal damages of FRS and that's when Naruto had it about 50% completed and in base without the boost senjutsu or Kurama chakra gives it. Amaterasu still can burn her if she's hit and Sasuke can make it surround his rib Susanoo so she can't physically hit him plus shoot Enton arrows. Sasori use 3rd Kazekage to use his iron such which is lice with poison, Hidan gets her blood and kills her over and over until she runs out of chakra.
Jiraiya surrounds her with his hair then makes it spikey to impale her, use Chou Rasengan, swamp of the underworld to sink her, use his jutsu to turn her into a frog. Hashirama use flower world which can crush her and release pollen that render her unconcious which worked when Edo Madara used it on the Kage's and it took Oonoki dust release to free them. Tobirama and Minato are too fast to get hit by her so they get in close to mark her the use FTG slash on her with clones or cut off her head. Neji use gentle fist to close her chakra points so she can't heal herself and attacking the heart is the last of 64 palms so she can die from that and if she lives through that then another attack to the heart will kill her as Hinata's dad shown to do to that cloud ninja training to kidnap Hinata (Lee stated gentle fist was Konoha strongest taijutsu).
Kisame use Samehada to absorb her chakra then cut her up with Samehada (Samehada can absorb up to 6 tails worth of chakra from Bee per slash which is a lot of chakra so constant slashes would take even more. Oonoki dust release leaves no trace, TSB is stronger than Oonoki dust release. Pain/Nagato pull her soul out or stab her with chakra rods which disrupts her chakra control. And I can go on for more a Kage levels.
So yes she can die in battle. Also creation rebirth isn't the highest healing ability, Naruto using Yin yang release to heal Kakashi eye is the best. Naruto with Kurama's healing shown some feats of the Yin seal's such as instantly healing the hold Sasuke made in Naruto's chest after Kurama's chakra was unleashed. Naruto also stopped Gai from dying, RM Naruto is the best healer but the most knowledgable of all medical ninjutsu is Tsunade until Sakura surpass her.
Exactly this, if the brain is healed/regenerated it wont be the same brain it was before as the brain is different from all other organs as it stores information over time.
This was essentially the same point I brought up about Hidan stabbing himself in the brain, he would not be able to do this as once injury takes place the brain loses information in a way.
NB disagrees with this though.
That is a no limits fallacy. Though when people say that Kaguya and Madara can only be beaten by getting sealed away, that too is a no limits fallacy but that type of logic isn't applied to them for some reason.
Pretty much. The long term memory storage unit is shot, as all the information is lost with the brain. It's not the same individual anymore. It's a fresh start.
NB can be absurd at times.
KGB Kakuzu
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No, it wouldn't.
The limitation of the jutsu is it accelerates cellular regrowth. The human body has a limited amount of cells.
That's why we die. The composition of the heart or other organs eventually die out and we follow suit.
Decapitation is game over. Tsunade would have to regenerate an entire body. Why? The chakra is all in the forehead seal.
From the cells comprising her head she would have to do the following.
Regrow skin for her entire body neck down.
Regrow bones neck down. Specializing them in shape. From bone cells in the skull.
Regrow the fluidity of joints.
Muscle tissue for an entire body from facial muscles.
Specific cells for every organ.
Guess what? She has no organs in her head. She'd have to use stem cells and that's a VERY small number.
It's like taking a 100X100 pic and expanding the size to 5,000X5,000
The image is destroyed beyond recognition.
Tsunade is killed if her head is completely severed.
The Necromancer
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Tsunade can only heal the arms, not the loss of soul. Orochimaru later says he has other options, suggesting his reincarnation technique, which did indeed give him use of his arms, but not proper use.
lhatefanboys
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Amaterasu, the more she tries to regen the more chakra she loses and eventually will end up burning alive.