[Debate] When does life start?

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Anyone wondering why I'm so quiet, is because I'm busy watching Criminal Minds :p

Yes this site is indeed devoted to anime. However this section that I created is actually suitable:

General Discussion Discuss here the latest headlines and debate on serious matters.

I consider this a serious matter:shrug:
You're right, but I feel that is a broad interpretation. The thread invites people to start discussing about religion and philosophy that does indeed break the rules of the base. I don't believe you are at fault, but you are enabling others to be.
 
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For those whining "This is Narutobase, not so and so-" This is the general discussion section. We discuss debates and other things NON Naruto related. Naruto has 5 sections and you can discuss the oh so precious manga there.


On topic: I guess it starts when the baby is born because it's fully formed and breathing. It's like a candy bar. It's not completed until it's full of chocolate, wrapped up, and other candy bar related things xd Well I mean, it's out of the womb and like legit, not some sperm or something. Just my small opinion on a subject I don't care about really.
 
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then please take out the part about vital organs if it doesnt have any signifigance porpouse (im sure you can see how that would confuse some one).

-the thing about concuisness is that it can and cant be measured at the same time.it is reasonable to say that you and I have a counscious, but how does mine differ from yours and why. If i woke up one day with your counscious and you had mine could we be considered to have a counscious anymore since we arent aware of ourself anymore?

-is counscious measured in the extent of which are brain can percieve outside forces and stumuli......if some one cannot touch,feel,taste,see,hear is he still counscious?

-the thing about the heartbeat has so many flaws its almost impossible to hae as a rule of life. there are lifeforms that dont have hearts.there are humans that live without a natural heart that they were born with and on the same note its not the beating of the heart that keeps you alive its the flow of blood.
Sorry if it seems that I dont answer all your points one by one, I couldnt really understand all of them , English is not my native language:) But then what makes us conscious beings? Without brain we are definitely not conscious, you sure know that even if we are asleep were conscious, even in coma,,,but when the brain becomes dead, its over, the body starts to decay. Ok I know that heart can be replaced by modern devices,and blood conyveys oxygen to brain etc, and heart stops when the sinus node cant do more electrical impulses (at least a friend of mine said something about it, he's a medic but maybe I misunderstood it, I'm not a biologist).So if you consider an organic material without consciousness a human living being, then a dead person could be considered as a human too. With conception, only the possibility of life is given. And what about insemination outside the womb? With modern medicine it can be done. And you consider that a human being too?
 

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life starts when cellular processes begin
however you start being human once your socialization begins - primary soc (i.e. family), without socialization a human wouldnt be any different than any other primate
 

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Life Begins At Conception, Whether Or Not You "Consider" Life Begining So Early, Doesn't Change The Fact That It Does, IE, Abortion Is Murder, Despite What You "Consider" Murder To Be
 

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Life does not begin at conception, if thats what you're getting at with this question. Life begins when the (potential) person actually has a beating heart.

"life" as we know it begins when a fetus (not a baby yet) is able to sustain life on its own, which is usually at 7 months. Before that the fetus is basically a parasite.....not trolling, I'm serious.

Although I disagree with abortion after 3 months
 

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begins the second it becomes a fetus in order to have an abortion it needs to be alive by having an abrtion uyou "kill" a fetus and unborn baby :| U_U i would not like to rant because i normally do when it comes to topics like this
 

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personally, i say when it has all of its organs.
the only opinion i disagree with, however, is that it's not alive until it is born.
Why? If something cannot live on its own then it will die. Therefore until your body is capable of surviving you cannot possibly live.

Same concept as drowning. If you move your head underwater does it mean you are drowning? Or only when you are unable to get enough oxygen to survive.
 
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