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A lot of people, when comparing characters, compare feats. Well I'd like to ask, what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING?!

For example, in Sakura vs Hinata, people argue about feats and in that thread over in the popular section thing about Hashirama he says Hashirama isn't in top five due to NO FEATS, despite multiple characters saying his power was on a whole other level.

How does that determine anything? By that logic, Konohamaru is stronger than Asuma since he took down a Pein body for a while and Asuma hasn't really had feats. But we know that's not true,so why do people use feats as an argument? Shouldn't we compare actual strength instead?
 

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but konohamaru used plot no jutsu

and for all you know, if asuma lived he could've taken down a pain...
 

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I agree so much. People wanna use feats because tey can't come up with god arguments I guess. It's easier to say. Minato teleported a TBB so he's God!
 

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but konohamaru used plot no jutsu

and for all you know, if asuma lived he could've taken down a pain...

That's my point. Since he didn't, you can say Konohamaru is stronger, but for all we know, he couldve.
 

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When comparing characters you have to take consideration of Plot-no jutsu and known abilities.
 

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100% with you dawg xd
 

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When comparing characters you have to take consideration of Plot-no jutsu and known abilities.

No you don't. Plot no jutsu has nothing to do with it. Like if I said Kid Naruto vs Kisame, Kisame will win, despite Naruto being the main character. Plot No Jutsu has no power in VS threads or compring characters
 

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Well, we now know for sure that 1st Hokage>4th due the to fact that he could heal himself without handsigns instantly in battle.
 

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^^ They should also compare jutsu, experience, knowledge, etc
 

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yep, that's why i wait until i see them in battle before i determine their combat strength.
 

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No you don't. Plot no jutsu has nothing to do with it. Like if I said Kid Naruto vs Kisame, Kisame will win, despite Naruto being the main character. Plot No Jutsu has no power in VS threads or compring characters

Which is basically what I'm saying...?

Some people dont consider taking the plot into account and believe everything in the manga as proper fact. While in fact you have to consider that some characters are affected because of the plot so when comparing characers or VS threads you have to wonder how much the plot is shielding him or her.
 

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Which is basically what I'm saying...?

Some people dont consider taking the plot into account and believe everything in the manga as proper fact. While in fact you have to consider that some characters are affected because of the plot so when comparing characers or VS threads you have to wonder how much the plot is shielding him or her.

you mean like how sasori died?
 

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A lot of people, when comparing characters, compare feats. Well I'd like to ask, what the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING?!

For example, in Sakura vs Hinata, people argue about feats and in that thread over in the popular section thing about Hashirama he says Hashirama isn't in top five due to NO FEATS, despite multiple characters saying his power was on a whole other level.

How does that determine anything? By that logic, Konohamaru is stronger than Asuma since he took down a Pein body for a while and Asuma hasn't really had feats. But we know that's not true,so why do people use feats as an argument? Shouldn't we compare actual strength instead?

true dat.
 

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Which is basically what I'm saying...?

Some people dont consider taking the plot into account and believe everything in the manga as proper fact. While in fact you have to consider that some characters are affected because of the plot so when comparing characers or VS threads you have to wonder how much the plot is shielding him or her.

Once no you don't. In a VS thread, its a hypothetical situation. Plot has no effect on it.

And Kid Naruto is the main character, however, we know that Kisame is stronger, despite the fact that naruto would have full protection of plot no jutsu
 
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