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As far as I know its just made of chakra. Mind sharing where it is said that its made by combining his spiritual and physical stamina.

... Thats how chakra is made..
Combing spiritual energy and physical stamina
 

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Well he can house some NE, not of SM caliber but he can take some on.. Sasuke/Jugo NE Susano'o is a testament to that feat..

Senseisama laid it out pretty well..
 

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Well he can house some NE, not of SM caliber but he can take some on.. Sasuke/Jugo NE Susano'o is a testament to that feat..

Senseisama laid it out pretty well..

He housed nine bijuu worth lol
 

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But cant do it by himself or enter to sage mode alone.
 

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Ok stop right there, Sasuke didn't use NE and nor did he use any SM feat. He used Outer Path to extract the chakra from the bijuus then used Yin release to merge them into one form.

He was shaping form out of "nothingness", the "nothingness" being chakra with no physical form. I usually agree with your threads but this was too much

Of course Sasuke didn't use NE, only sage mode users can use NE as a weapon. The rest is just pure speculation with no manga source.
 

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... Thats how chakra is made..
Combing spiritual energy and physical stamina

Yep it is but again what Sasuke was absorbing from the tailed beast wasn't NE, sure he was unifying all the chakra from the bijuus but that chakra wasn't NE but chakra as NE itself is not directly usable and he wouldn't go through the trouble of unifying all the chakra into NE and then convert it back to chakra to power his PS. So again not senjutsu.
 

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He housed nine bijuu worth lol

He housed Bijuu through a medium not to himself because it was too much for him to handle.. NE is what's at question here an Sasuke cannot house raw NE he's no sage..
 

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Ok stop right there, Sasuke didn't use NE and nor did he use any SM feat. He used Outer Path to extract the chakra from the bijuus then used Yin release to merge them into one form.

He was shaping form out of "nothingness", the "nothingness" being chakra with no physical form. I usually agree with your threads but this was too much


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hagoromo used banbutsu sozo to divide juubi's chakra into nine parts, and create nine beings (bijuu) from this chakra
sasuke did the same thing, but in reverse, he used banbutsu sozo to merge the nine shapeless parts of the bijuu's chakra into one
and create a lightning being (indra), and wearing him the Susanoo armor.
and according to kurama, sasuke did this at the same level as hagoromo



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As far as I know its just made of chakra. Mind sharing where it is said that its made by combining his spiritual and physical stamina.

Chakra is the combination of spiritual and physical energies. Are you stupid? Have you lost the basics of this show?
 

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Chakra is the combination of spiritual and physical energies. Are you stupid? Have you lost the basics of this show?

You should read my later comments before jumping to conclusion dumb ass.
 

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He housed Bijuu through a medium not to himself because it was too much for him to handle.. NE is what's at question here an Sasuke cannot house raw NE he's no sage..

In case your forgot, Susanoo is Sasuke's chakra. So that Medium you speak of is Sasuke on personal chakra..
Never said a word about Sasuke being a sage
 

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Yep it is but again what Sasuke was absorbing from the tailed beast wasn't NE, sure he was unifying all the chakra from the bijuus but that chakra wasn't NE but chakra as NE itself is not directly usable and he wouldn't go through the trouble of unifying all the chakra into NE and then convert it back to chakra to power his PS. So again not senjutsu.

lol concession accepted. See ya.
 

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Sasuke adapted to natural energy but he wasn't able to produce it on his own without Jugo. It's not going to be sage transformation Ps without curse mark pattern. And unlike naruto's rsm which allows a biju to gather natural energy, sasuke can't.
 

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Sasuke adapted to natural energy but he wasn't able to produce it on his own without Jugo. It's not going to be sage transformation Ps without curse mark pattern. And unlike naruto's rsm which allows a biju to gather natural energy, sasuke can't.

Never said a word about Sasuke producing NE on his own.
When Sasuke took and combine the chakra from all 9 bijuu, he basically recreated the Jubbi, Which is nothing but a mass of NE. Combing that with his own chakra(Susanoo), (spiritual energy +physical stamina) created a Senjutsu Susanoo. Sasuke did not put the NE into himself otherwise he would have became a JJ.
 

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Never said a word about Sasuke producing NE on his own.
When Sasuke took and combine the chakra from all 9 bijuu, he basically recreated the Jubbi, Which is nothing but a mass of NE. Combing that with his own chakra(Susanoo), (spiritual energy +physical stamina) created a Senjutsu Susanoo. Sasuke did not put the NE into himself otherwise he would have became a JJ.

Oh okay I see what you're saying here. You're saying that 9 biju chakra pieces together automatically allows you to gain the senjutsu that the jyubi because the jubi has only senjutsu chakra ,right?
Well one thing I need to mention is that the jyubi has chakra and senjutsu chakra because without the basis of chakra you cannot gain natural energy on top of that. So there is jyubi chakra and then there's jyubi senjutsu. With that said. All 9 biju chakra still needs an additional senjutsu to manifest rikudou senjutsu. Kaguya aka jyubi can gather NE in addition to its jyubi chakra where as Sasuke's Gedo/Biju susanoo cannot. You agree, right?

And if you also think about it, if Sasuke's susanoo can use senjutsu then Indra's arrow would've overwhelmed naruto's ashura shurikens.
 

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Oh okay I see what you're saying here. You're saying that 9 biju chakra pieces together automatically allows you to gain the senjutsu that the jyubi because the jubi has only senjutsu chakra ,right?
Well one thing I need to mention is that the jyubi has chakra and senjutsu chakra because without the basis of chakra you cannot gain natural energy on top of that. So there is jyubi chakra and then there's jyubi senjutsu. With that said. All 9 biju chakra still needs an additional senjutsu to manifest rikudou senjutsu. Kaguya aka jyubi can gather NE in addition to its jyubi chakra where as Sasuke's Gedo/Biju susanoo cannot. You agree, right?

And if you also think about it, if Sasuke's susanoo can use senjutsu then Indra's arrow would've overwhelmed naruto's ashura shurikens.

Ok I agree with the first.. I'm not completely understanding what you're saying in the second part.
Why would a Ration jutsu overwhelm two futton jutsu when ration is weK agains Futton? Plus Naruto jutsu was Senjutsu enhanced as well.. if anything, it's a testament to how strong Indra's arrow really is that it was overwhelmed.
 
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